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Reply #690 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:57pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 3:59pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 3:12pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 11:40am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 11:35am:

Frank wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 11:24am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Feb 21^st, 2024 at 7:12pm:

So why can't the criminals be like them, ijit? Why are the law abiding a credit to themselves but the criminals a discredit to Australia?

To answer that question, you will need to consider why Oz's home-grown criminals are....criminal.

I see all my attempts to explain crime have gone straight over your head.

Deplorable.

You are missing the point as always,princess.

Bbwian made this distinction

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The overall majority are fine, law-abiding people who do not commit crimes. There is a significant subset who feel they have been abandoned to an alien culture who do commit crimes. Fix their alienation and they will cease to commit crimes.

And you are limiting considerations of what causes crime, regardless of identity.

you are a repetitive bore

And you are displaying what happens when a Conservative is unable to address the issues.

Deplorable.

You rejected the idea that black Africans migrants could make a go of it in other black countries, and then you implied that they should come to Australia

No I didn't; I said the world has a refugeee crisis caused by global economic mismagement, for which your solution (or some other like-minded deplorable) was to send the 100 million refugees to some other African nation...the one suggested has a population of less than a million people...good one - not well thought through....

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So, they're in Australia, and now you reckon we've got the wrong monetary system, the wrong culture, and the wrong way of dealing with crime, etc etc

Correct, we can't even engender the reasonable prosperity of Indigenous Ozzies....

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So why are they in Australia?

Because the 'grass looks greener over there', certainly safer.... but when they get here, they find housing and cost of living is a nightmare.

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All that you've said so far only means they should be in countries they're more suited to, African or Caribbean countries

I don't deny it (assuming those countries you have in mind aren't like Haiti and many African nations...)

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #692 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:10pm

JC Denton wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:03pm:

why do they come to white countries if it makes them all so alienated and brutalised by poverty it makes them go around throat stabbing grandmas

They have already been through the hell of living in failed states, which is why they paid money to get out (at least those who could afford to pay; the mob that landed on WA's coast the other day were broke Pakis).

That some of them sink into criminality when they get here - confronted by our 'survival of the fittest' neoliberal economy, in which those who fail face the demoralization of welfare dependency - is not surprising.

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seems like the most humane thing to do if this is true is just to deport them

Where to, exactly?

Vicious economic orthodoxy makes non-humane brutes out of every nation on the planet, even the US with its $20 trillion economy doesn't want to provide a new haven for refugees.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #693 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:27pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:10pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:03pm:

why do they come to white countries if it makes them all so alienated and brutalised by poverty it makes them go around throat stabbing grandmas

They have already been through the hell of living in failed states, which is why they paid money to get out (at least those who could afford to pay; the mob that landed on WA's coast the other day were broke Pakis).

That some of them sink into criminality when they get here - confronted by our 'survival of the fittest' neoliberal economy, in which those who fail face the demoralization of welfare dependency - is not surprising.

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seems like the most humane thing to do if this is true is just to deport them

Where to, exactly?

Vicious economic orthodoxy makes non-humane brutes out of every nation on the planet, even the US with its $20 trillion economy doesn't want to provide a new haven for refugees.

That is as moronic as anything Bbwian or Smiff or Duckwit would say.

Don't tell me that people in the third world have no idea whta Western countries are ike and when they land they are as surprised as if they had landed on Mars??

OF COURSE they know what these countries are like - that is exactly what they are exploiting. The Abos, the Africans, Chinese, Indians, all of them. They would not dare behave like this in their own shitehole cultures because they know that they would be swiftly and effectively dealt with. They are exploiting the Bbwianesque 'oh dearie, dearie me' BS.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #694 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:27pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:47pm:

to understand brians yawns you have to understand the leftie intellectual

Maybe, but it's also imperative to understand your survival of the fittest mentality. (I never did see your defence of 'snake morality'...).

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i would assert that most of them are people who have a very very dark side,
and they are terrified to show it to the world , so they cover it with a very very thin veneer of proclaiming their virtue.

Sounds like a typical 'survival of the fittest' ideologue, to me...

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i think because they actually feel rather awful most of the time (because they havent ackowledged their very very dark side), they do things which would fall under the heading of "self attack"

As opposed to attacking others.... the whole purpose of paranoid RW war-mongering ideology, based on hatred of international law which COULD outlaw war.

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they , at a deeper level, probably would welcome death to put them out of their misery.

No; anti-war people revere life, it's the 'spend more money on arms' mob who hate life.

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and so sudanese migrants are in fitting with their desire to "end it all", as are islamic jihadists
misery loves company

All religious nutters want to die for their "God".

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Reply #695 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:36pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:47pm:

to understand brians yawns you have to understand the leftie intellectual

Maybe, but it's also imperative to understand your survival of the fittest mentality. (I never did see your defence of 'snake morality'...).

You are complete nutter and an idiot, par-rort. Just stupid.

The West has created across Europe, North america and Aus/NZ the most advanced welfare states. The survival of the fittest is a Darwinian concept relating to evolution, introduced into the language at exactly the same time as the West, staring in England and germany and Scandinavia, starterd to develop the welfare state.

ALL the third world bozos who have thoroughtly ****ed up their own countries the moment they were given free reign (ie independence) are leaving their shiteholes for the West PRECISELY because they want to leave behind their own primitive, backward, savage culture. But most of them, with few honourable exceptions, want to recreate their shiteholes here, with welfare state benefits - notably the Africans, the Muslims, whether Leb or Paki.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #696 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:37pm

Frank wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:27pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:10pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:03pm:

why do they come to white countries if it makes them all so alienated and brutalised by poverty it makes them go around throat stabbing grandmas

They have already been through the hell of living in failed states, which is why they paid money to get out (at least those who could afford to pay; the mob that landed on WA's coast the other day were broke Pakis).

That some of them sink into criminality when they get here - confronted by our 'survival of the fittest' neoliberal economy, in which those who fail face the demoralization of welfare dependency - is not surprising.

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seems like the most humane thing to do if this is true is just to deport them

Where to, exactly?

Vicious economic orthodoxy makes non-humane brutes out of every nation on the planet, even the US with its $20 trillion economy doesn't want to provide a new haven for refugees.

That is as moronic as anything Bbwian or Smiff or Duckwit would say.

Your usual preface - let's read on:

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Don't tell me that people in the third world have no idea whta Western countries are ike and when they land they are as surprised as if they had landed on Mars??

The Pakis who landed on the WA coast last week are broke and escaping a hopeless economic situation at home; obviously they have a better chance here.

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OF COURSE they know what these countries are like - that is exactly what they are exploiting. The Abos, the Africans, Chinese, Indians, all of them. They would not dare behave like this in their own shitehole cultures because they know that they would be swiftly and effectively dealt with. They are exploiting the Bbwianesque 'oh dearie, dearie me' BS.

1. Escaping a failed state is not "exploiting" anyone.

2. "Abos" live here by right, many are oppressed by welfare dependency.

3. Chinese and Indians who come here are mostly not refugees fleeing failed states.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #698 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:50pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:37pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:27pm:

[quote]Don't tell me that people in the third world have no idea what Western countries are ike and when they land they are as surprised as if they had landed on Mars??

The Pakis who landed on the WA coast last week are broke and escaping a hopeless economic situation at home; obviously they have a better chance here.

You are a slippery as a bucketful of eals in snot. Your response, line by line it may be, NEVER bears ANY resemblance to what was actually said.

You never actually respond to anything, you merely pick a word and go off on your own tangent - the same old stupid tangent - every time.

Talking to to you is not like talking to a human being. It's like talking to a parrot who doesn't understand what is said to it, nor what it is parrotting itself.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #699 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:59pm

Frank wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:36pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:47pm:

to understand brians yawns you have to understand the leftie intellectual

Maybe, but it's also imperative to understand your survival of the fittest mentality. (I never did see your defence of 'snake morality'...).

You are complete nutter and an idiot, par-rort. Just stupid.

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The West has created across Europe, North america and Aus/NZ the most advanced welfare states.

But the Global South is burdened by debt - and you are ignoring the cost of living crisis in Oz, and most other "welfare" (sic) states, where the survival of the fittestneoliberal economy means some are forced into welfare dependency.

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The survival of the fittest is a Darwinian concept relating to evolution, introduced into the language at exactly the same time as the West, staring in England and germany and Scandinavia, starterd to develop the welfare state.

Darwin's description of the natural animal world is a good description of neoclassical 'invisible hand', 'self-interest based' economics, with its NAIRU dogma and misnamed '"welfare" safety net'.

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ALL the third world bozos who have thoroughtly ****ed up their own countries

No; greedy, evil, slave-owning western exploiters f**ked Africa.

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then the moment they were given free reign (ie independence) are leaving their shiteholes for the West PRECISELY because they want to leave behind their own primitive, backward, savage culture.

Another wrong narrative; the exploiters left the place in a shambles.

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But most of them, with few honourable exceptions, want to recreate their shiteholes here, with welfare state benefits - notably the Africans, the Muslims, whether Leb or Paki.

No-one wants to leave his own country, circumstances force it.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #700 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 6:15pm

Frank wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:50pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:37pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:27pm:

[quote]Don't tell me that people in the third world have no idea what Western countries are ike and when they land they are as surprised as if they had landed on Mars??

The Pakis who landed on the WA coast last week are broke and escaping a hopeless economic situation at home; obviously they have a better chance here.

You are a slippery as a bucketful of eals in snot. Your response, line by line it may be, NEVER bears ANY resemblance to what was actually said.

As we can see from above, you claimed people in the 3rd world know what it's like in the West, which no-one is denying.

The question is: why are they coming here, when we have a cost of living/housing crisis - which they likely don't know about?

I just pointed out the Pakis were economic refugees fleeing a failed state, without any money....

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You never actually respond to anything, you merely pick a word and go off on your own tangent - the same old stupid tangent - every time.

refuted above....The fact Pakistan has been destroyed by a flood and received no help from the IMF, is very relevant to th discussion on refugees. Ditto for failing African states.

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Talking to to you is not like talking to a human being. It's like talking to a parrot who doesn't understand what is said to it, nor what it is parrotting itself.

That's because your incapacitated brain can't make connections between relevant data.

Sad.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #701 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 6:19pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:57pm:

No I didn't; I said the world has a refugeee crisis caused by global economic mismagement, for which your solution (or some other like-minded deplorable) was to send the 100 million refugees to some other African nation...the one suggested has a population of less than a million people...good one - not well thought through....

Now you're being silly .. I was suggesting that darkies that are heading for Australia should instead head for other countries they would feel more comfortable in culturally and living among other darkies, and where they could still work and earn some money. They obviously don't feel comfortable here among millions of whities, and they keep saying so

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:57pm:

Because the 'grass looks greener over there', certainly safer.... but when they get here, they find housing and cost of living is a nightmare.

You've said it again, and I will express my same answer ... Stay away if living here is nightmarish

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #702 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 6:43pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:37pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:27pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 5:10pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 4:03pm:

why do they come to white countries if it makes them all so alienated and brutalised by poverty it makes them go around throat stabbing grandmas

They have already been through the hell of living in failed states, which is why they paid money to get out (at least those who could afford to pay; the mob that landed on WA's coast the other day were broke Pakis).

That some of them sink into criminality when they get here - confronted by our 'survival of the fittest' neoliberal economy, in which those who fail face the demoralization of welfare dependency - is not surprising.

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seems like the most humane thing to do if this is true is just to deport them

Where to, exactly?

Vicious economic orthodoxy makes non-humane brutes out of every nation on the planet, even the US with its $20 trillion economy doesn't want to provide a new haven for refugees.

That is as moronic as anything Bbwian or Smiff or Duckwit would say.

Your usual preface - let's read on:

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Don't tell me that people in the third world have no idea whta Western countries are ike and when they land they are as surprised as if they had landed on Mars??

The Pakis who landed on the WA coast last week are broke and escaping a hopeless economic situation at home; obviously they have a better chance here.

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OF COURSE they know what these countries are like - that is exactly what they are exploiting. The Abos, the Africans, Chinese, Indians, all of them. They would not dare behave like this in their own shitehole cultures because they know that they would be swiftly and effectively dealt with. They are exploiting the Bbwianesque 'oh dearie, dearie me' BS.

1. Escaping a failed state is not "exploiting" anyone.

2. "Abos" live here by right, many are oppressed by welfare dependency.

3. Chinese and Indians who come here are mostly not refugees fleeing failed states.

should we end this oppression by cancelling these payments ?

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #703 - Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 7:38pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2024 at 6:15pm: