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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #810 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:39am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Unlike you, Soren, I think about matters, more than likely much more deeply than you do. You merely react. You react with hate, unlimited and useless emotion. You really are a fool. That correct end of the stick might be a four letter word you never consider - love. Discipline and love would go a long way toward fixing their problems. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You're not being disciplined when you hand over your car keys to strangers for a carjacking to take place

In such a case, showing discipline would be to be aware of your surroundings first up, then not let yourself be confronted suddenly, but to surveil what is up ahead and quickly assess your position if something doesn't look quite right. If you see black Africans in the vicinity of your car, and judging that they may not have yet been de-alienated, divert away between parked cars, get distance between you and your car and wait for them to move on

If you want to talk about "societal" discipline, you'll have to tell all and sundry to keep their homes locked up like Fort Knox, their vehicles well garaged and immobilized, carry very loud personal alarms and wear knife-proof vests

De-alienation is nothing more than wishful thinking. The Libs and Labs don't care what happens, their immigration program is non-negotiable, so there's little point in you talking about de-alienation. Don't put it on us if the govt isn't interested ... how many emails have you sent to the relevant Minister?

The thing is, it doesn't matter how law abiding us Aussies are, minding our own business, being disciplined in that way, there is still the possibility of being accosted and robbed by black Africans, so all that you have been implying, is that we just have to put up with it, in much the same way the the Mayor of London said Londoners have to put up with muslim terrorists, it's now part of their lives now

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #811 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 4:33am

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:39am:

...You're not being disciplined when you hand over your car keys to strangers for a carjacking to take place

In such a case, showing discipline would be to be aware of your surroundings first up, then not let yourself be confronted suddenly, but to surveil what is up ahead and quickly assess your position if something doesn't look quite right. If you see black Africans in the vicinity of your car, and judging that they may not have yet been de-alienated, divert away between parked cars, get distance between you and your car and wait for them to move on...

LOL...

I know you've been pushing this sort of defensive action in several
of your comments here Bias, but you're grossly underestimating the
actual gravity of the crime. Firstly of course is that you've failed to
acknowledge that the victim was a 70-year-old female. Secondly this
occurred in an underground car park, where her vehicle was relatively
isolated from public view.

Thirdly, of course, is that you were not there, and have no knowledge
of the attack itself in order to comment with any authority. Your comments
are the all-too-easy ones of a typical keyboard warrior, wise after the event,
but ignorant of its mechanics.

And I have to question your thinly-disguised racism: Any time you see
a group of Africans in the street, do you immediately take evasive
action or "divert away"? How would you prejudge them as having criminal
intent exactly? Is it solely because they're black, rather than white skinned?

Would you have the same smug dismissive attitude had
this been your 70-year-old grandmother? I'm betting not.

Victim blaming is nonsensical.

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD Reply #812 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 7:37am dont listen to any dumb advice like this if you do get someone with a weapon holding you up give them what they want and gtfo there
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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #813 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 9:04am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 4:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 3:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

Easy, give them what they want immediately and don't argue about it as she did. Her car was insured, she only faced a few weeks inconvenience. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

A typical woke lefty wanker response.

She shouldn't have had to.... and neither should anyone else.

You are part of the problem.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I was listening yesterday to Radio National about what happens when children are consigned to prison - they invariably become worse criminals. Punishment fails to achieve anything of value. To you punishment is the only answer despite what psychiatrists recommend. Giving the criminals what they want doesn't dealienate them, punishing doesn't dealienate them, perhaps trying to fix their situation might work for a change? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Radio National aka the woke ABC.

In case you haven't noticed the softly softly & your leftoid psychiatrists approach has failed dismally over the past 2 decades.

There has to be consequences for actions regardless of someone economic situation.... there are plenty of others in the same boat that don't go down that road.

You therefore condone the abuse/violence/murder perpetrated by these criminals & excuse them, give them more rights than their victims.

These Africans/Sudanese have 500% more here in Australia than they had in Sudan.

They get housing, welfare, education, medical, job opportunities, none of that ever available in Sudan, yet they exhibit the same lawless tendencies & violent, life is cheap behaviour here.

You are a woeful example of a so called human being. Tsk, tsk, tsk

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #815 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 9:10am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 8:10pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 7:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 7:47pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 6:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 4:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 3:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

Easy, give them what they want immediately and don't argue about it as she did. Her car was insured, she only faced a few weeks inconvenience. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

A typical woke lefty wanker response.

She shouldn't have had to.... and neither should anyone else.

You are part of the problem.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I was listening yesterday to Radio National about what happens when children are consigned to prison - they invariably become worse criminals. Punishment fails to achieve anything of value. To you punishment is the only answer despite what psychiatrists recommend.

Giving the criminals what they want doesn't dealienate them

, punishing doesn't dealienate them, perhaps trying to fix their situation might work for a change? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So why then would you give them your car keys, so they can carjack your car?

Because they demanded them with menaces, Bias? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So accomodating criminals is the way to de-aliane them, is it? If only you do as they demand, they will stop being criminals!!

No, of course not. Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you have, as per usual, the wrong end of the stick, Bias. Mispelling words again, Soren, which demonstrates how childish you are. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well, WHAT then, cockwomble??
You do not seem to be able to say. Eyerolling, tut-tutting, yawning is NOT a strategy, dickheaddle.

WHAT IS your korrekt end of the stick, stupid old woman?
Make a postive contribution, even if it kills you, you shallow troll.

Unlike you, Soren, I think about matters, more than likely much more deeply than you do. You merely react. You react with hate, unlimited and useless emotion. You really are a fool. That correct end of the stick might be a four letter word you never consider - love. Discipline and love would go a long way toward fixing their problems. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So why don't their families love these juvenile Abos and Africans, Bbwian? Why don't their families and communities love and discipline them?

Please explain.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #816 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 9:11am

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 8:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 8:10pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 7:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 7:47pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 6:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 4:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 26^th, 2024 at 3:11pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

Easy, give them what they want immediately and don't argue about it as she did. Her car was insured, she only faced a few weeks inconvenience. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

A typical woke lefty wanker response.

She shouldn't have had to.... and neither should anyone else.

You are part of the problem.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I was listening yesterday to Radio National about what happens when children are consigned to prison - they invariably become worse criminals. Punishment fails to achieve anything of value. To you punishment is the only answer despite what psychiatrists recommend.

Giving the criminals what they want doesn't dealienate them

, punishing doesn't dealienate them, perhaps trying to fix their situation might work for a change? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So why then would you give them your car keys, so they can carjack your car?

Because they demanded them with menaces, Bias? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So accomodating criminals is the way to de-aliane them, is it? If only you do as they demand, they will stop being criminals!!

No, of course not. Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you have, as per usual, the wrong end of the stick, Bias. Mispelling words again, Soren, which demonstrates how childish you are. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Well, WHAT then, cockwomble??
You do not seem to be able to say. Eyerolling, tut-tutting, yawning is NOT a strategy, dickheaddle.

WHAT IS your korrekt end of the stick, stupid old woman?
Make a postive contribution, even if it kills you, you shallow troll.

Unlike you, Soren, I think about matters, more than likely much more deeply than you do. You merely react. You react with hate, unlimited and useless emotion. You really are a fool. That correct end of the stick might be a four letter word you never consider - love. Discipline and love would go a long way toward fixing their problems. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Ahhh so Vyleen White should have said - "I love you darling" .. as he plunged a knife into her chest?

You are a complete imbecile.

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #818 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 9:34am

AusGeoff wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 4:33am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:39am:

...You're not being disciplined when you hand over your car keys to strangers for a carjacking to take place

In such a case, showing discipline would be to be aware of your surroundings first up, then not let yourself be confronted suddenly, but to surveil what is up ahead and quickly assess your position if something doesn't look quite right. If you see black Africans in the vicinity of your car, and judging that they may not have yet been de-alienated, divert away between parked cars, get distance between you and your car and wait for them to move on...

LOL...

I know you've been pushing this sort of defensive action in several
of your comments here Bias, but you're grossly underestimating the
actual gravity of the crime. Firstly of course is that you've failed to
acknowledge that the victim was a 70-year-old female. Secondly this
occurred in an underground car park, where her vehicle was relatively
isolated from public view.

Thirdly, of course, is that you were not there, and have no knowledge
of the attack itself in order to comment with any authority. Your comments
are the all-too-easy ones of a typical keyboard warrior, wise after the event,
but ignorant of its mechanics.

And I have to question your thinly-disguised racism: Any time you see
a group of Africans in the street, do you immediately take evasive
action or "divert away"? How would you prejudge them as having criminal
intent exactly? Is it solely because they're black, rather than white skinned?
Would you have the same smug dismissive attitude had
this been your 70-year-old grandmother? I'm betting not.

Victim blaming is nonsensical.

You're not condoning the murder are you?

"you're grossly underestimating the actual gravity of the crime" - Not likely ... but you appear to be underestimating it. Are you OK with the stabbing murder?

"the victim was a 70-year-old female" - Glad you recognized that .. and apparently Vyleen was a multiculturalist, but not street wise unfortunately

"occurred in an underground car park" - Makes no difference. If you see what looks like black African thugs loitering near your car, walk in a different direction

"And I have to question your thinly-disguised racism" - It's not really thinly disguised, it's often full-on and for good reason ... the Aboriginals don't want black Africans here

"How would you prejudge them as having criminal intent exactly?" - Between the ages of 12 to 20, and in a group

It seems that, like Brian, you haven't thought through what constitutes "de-alienation". Giving criminals stuff won't de-alienate them, and even Brian said that

Giving stuff usually requires some appreciation in return ... but the crims drive away in your car after you've given them the keys - now how is that appreciation?

It's not is it? It's a carjacking, sanctioned by the person who gave them the keys. Like I said, give them a fake key that looks the same as your normal key, then clear out quick smart. That's if you can't avoid the situation altogether

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Reply #819 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:05pm

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren and Bias, two of the most Racist posters here. What WOFTAMs you both are. Australia and Australians are rapidly leaving Racism far behind. It is a useless and pointless emotional response. There are no Genetic differences between the various "Races". Indeed there is more differences between individuals among the so-called "Races". Racism is a pointless response to people who are different to you, a different skin colour, different eye shap, different nose shape, different hair, etc. The difference is not their fault, it is pure an environmental reaction to differences in environment. White people have white skin because it produces more Vitamin D in far northern climes, black people had black skin because they receive plenty of sunlight in far sunnier climes. The only "race" is the Human one. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #820 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:05pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren and Bias, two of the most Racist posters here. What WOFTAMs you both are. Australia and Australians are rapidly leaving Racism far behind. It is a useless and pointless emotional response. There are no Genetic differences between the various "Races". Indeed there is more differences between individuals among the so-called "Races". Racism is a pointless response to people who are different to you, a different skin colour, different eye shap, different nose shape, different hair, etc. The difference is not their fault, it is pure an environmental reaction to differences in environment. White people have white skin because it produces more Vitamin D in far northern climes, black people had black skin because they receive plenty of sunlight in far sunnier climes. The only "race" is the Human one. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

lmao you are an absolute f_cking parrot though admittedly youre much less frustrating than thegreatdivide who tortures his opponents to death in arguments by dividing up their posts into contextless morsels and replying with some irrelevant b.s to each one

you just post the most unimaginably low iq platitudinal rubbish but at least its condensed into a single paragraph or two usually

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #821 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:05pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren and Bias, two of the most Racist posters here. What WOFTAMs you both are. Australia and Australians are rapidly leaving Racism far behind. It is a useless and pointless emotional response. There are no Genetic differences between the various "Races". Indeed there is more differences between individuals among the so-called "Races". Racism is a pointless response to people who are different to you, a different skin colour, different eye shap, different nose shape, different hair, etc. The difference is not their fault, it is pure an environmental reaction to differences in environment. White people have white skin because it produces more Vitamin D in far northern climes, black people had black skin because they receive plenty of sunlight in far sunnier climes. The only "race" is the Human one. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: African stabs granny to death in QLD
Reply #822 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:12pm

JC Denton wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:05pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren and Bias, two of the most Racist posters here. What WOFTAMs you both are. Australia and Australians are rapidly leaving Racism far behind. It is a useless and pointless emotional response. There are no Genetic differences between the various "Races". Indeed there is more differences between individuals among the so-called "Races". Racism is a pointless response to people who are different to you, a different skin colour, different eye shap, different nose shape, different hair, etc. The difference is not their fault, it is pure an environmental reaction to differences in environment. White people have white skin because it produces more Vitamin D in far northern climes, black people had black skin because they receive plenty of sunlight in far sunnier climes. The only "race" is the Human one. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

lmao you are an absolute f_cking parrot

You are a WOFTAM. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #823 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:

Unlike you, Soren, I think about matters, more than likely much more deeply than you do. You merely react. You react with hate, unlimited and useless emotion. You really are a fool. That correct end of the stick might be a four letter word you never consider - love. Discipline and love would go a long way toward fixing their problems. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

So why don't their families love these juvenile Abos and Africans, Bbwian? Why don't their families and communities love and discipline them?

Please explain.

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Reply #824 - Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:24pm

JC Denton wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 27^th, 2024 at 12:05pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren and Bias, two of the most Racist posters here. What WOFTAMs you both are. Australia and Australians are rapidly leaving Racism far behind. It is a useless and pointless emotional response. There are no Genetic differences between the various "Races". Indeed there is more differences between individuals among the so-called "Races". Racism is a pointless response to people who are different to you, a different skin colour, different eye shap, different nose shape, different hair, etc. The difference is not their fault, it is pure an environmental reaction to differences in environment. White people have white skin because it produces more Vitamin D in far northern climes, black people had black skin because they receive plenty of sunlight in far sunnier climes. The only "race" is the Human one. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

lmao you are an absolute f_cking parrot though admittedly youre much less frustrating than thegreatdivide who tortures his opponents to death in arguments by dividing up their posts into contextless morsels and replying with some irrelevant b.s to each one

you just post the most unimaginably low iq platitudinal rubbish but at least its condensed into a single paragraph or two usually

Did you forget to refute ANY of the points made, in order to defend your assertion of "absolute f_cking parrot"?

Or you simply don't have the ability to do so?

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