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Reply #585 - Aug 23rd, 2024 at 6:35pm
 
MattE wrote on Aug 23rd, 2024 at 6:10pm:
We shouldn't need a referendum to define WOMAN and MAN.

But if the courts aren't going to apply common sense, we may need to define it in the basic law.

The court ruled Sally Grover indirectly discriminated against Roxanne Tickle. He awarded Tickle $10,000 and awarded costs to a maximum of $50,000.

What women's only organisation is safe with this precedent?

Something has to change.

Legislation should be amended to reverse this travesty, by defining what "sex" is and afford legal protections to individuals, groups, clubs and businesses who set themselves up as being for people of a certain biological sex.

This ruling isn't an everyday thing. It is a landmark ruling unless the High Court sets it aside.


The law - s 22 of the Sex Discrimination Act 1984 (Cth) (SDA) - is an ass, yet again.
The SEX discrimination Act, introduced in 1984 to PROTECT and ENSHRINE women's equality before the law, smuggled in a little phrase, 'gender identity' that has now come back and DENIES women their identity.

From the judgement:

BROMWICH J:

PART 1: INTRODUCTION AND SUMMARY OF CONCLUSIONS

1    The applicant, Roxanne Tickle, by an originating application and amended statement of claim, sues the first respondent, Giggle for Girls Pty Ltd, and the second respondent, Sally (Sall) Grover, the founder and chief executive officer (CEO) of Giggle, for alleged unlawful gender identity discrimination in the provision of services, contrary to s 22 of the Sex Discrimination Act 1984 (Cth) (SDA). These reasons refer to Giggle and Ms Grover collectively as the respondents.

2    The topic of the gender identity of a person, as distinct from the sex that a person had or was assigned at the time of birth, is one that Roxanne Tickle regards as straightforward and supported by the SDA and other legislation, as well as international law, including treaties to which Australia is a party. The respondents regard only sex at birth as being a valid basis on which a person may claim to be a man or woman. The respondents do not accept that a person’s sex can be a matter for self-identification. Correspondingly, they do not accept either the validity or legitimacy of the gender identity discrimination provisions of the SDA. This Court is confined to determining, only to the extent necessary, the validity, meaning and application of the SDA, including in particular whether there has been a contravention of the proscriptions on gender identify discrimination.

3    Roxanne Tickle was of the male sex at the time of birth, but is now recognised by an official updated Queensland birth certificate, issued under the Births, Deaths and Marriages Registration Act 2003 (Qld) (Qld BDM Registration Act), as being of the female sex. This followed from, and was predicated on, sexual reassignment surgery, being the term used in the Qld BDM Registration Act, which will be used in these reasons. Roxanne Tickle’s updated birth certificate gives rise to an entitlement to be referred to by female pronouns. Accordingly, in these reasons I will refer to her as Ms Tickle.

4    The term cisgender features in Ms Tickle’s amended statement of claim and appears in numerous places in these reasons, but does not appear in the SDA. As I noted in Tickle v Giggle for Girls Pty Ltd [2023] FCA 553 (Tickle v Giggle No 1) at [11], cisgender refers to a person whose gender corresponds to the sex registered for them at birth. That is to be contrasted with a person whose gender does not correspond with their sex as registered at birth, commonly referred to as transgender. The respondents do not accept the legitimacy of the terms cisgender and transgender.

5    The gender identity discrimination asserted by Ms Tickle is in relation to the provision of services, alleging both direct discrimination as defined in s 5B(1) of the SDA, and indirect discrimination as defined in s 5B(2). The conduct said to constitute both direct and indirect discrimination arises from Ms Tickle being prevented by the respondents from using a mobile phone digital software application, commonly known as an App, marketed for social communication between women (the Giggle App). While both direct and indirect discrimination may be alleged in the alternative, only one of the two can ever succeed in relation to a given allegation of discrimination. While both are alleged, Ms Tickle confirmed at the hearing that her allegations of direct and indirect gender identity discrimination were advanced as alternatives.

6    Ms Tickle seeks declarations of contravention, damages (including aggravated damages), a published written apology and an order to allow Ms Tickle to access the Giggle App on the same terms offered to other female users. The claim for aggravated damages was not particularised, nor well evidenced. Ms Tickle’s pleadings were not well drafted.
https://www.judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/judgments/Judgments/fca/single/2024/2024fc...


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Reply #586 - Aug 23rd, 2024 at 7:06pm
 
If it looks like a man, talks like a man, walks like a man, tests as a man - it is not a woman.

Simple definition of what is not a woman.

The courts have done it again - found wrong where there is no wrong....

Where is justice ... where is punishment... when the guilty go free and the innocent are punished.... I ask the questions... but still there are no answers .....

Is there a fund for this women's case?
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Reply #587 - Aug 23rd, 2024 at 8:38pm
 
Man sues women for saying he is, really, a man.

The court says the women are wrong, the man is as much a woman as real women like  like them.


Madness.  Who made that decision?  This woman:

...


There is an active hatred and repudiation afoot for women, for the ordinary working class, for children, ordinary married family life, settled cultural traditions - every aspect of the culture that was hospitable and open to the world in the hope of spreading civilisation.
It has been repaid by repudiation by a flood of haters and undermines.



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Reply #588 - Aug 24th, 2024 at 10:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2024 at 8:38pm:
Man sues women for saying he is, really, a man.

The court says the women are wrong, the man is as much a woman as real women like  like them.


Madness.  Who made that decision?  This woman:

https://www.alrc.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/robert-bromwich.jpg


There is an active hatred and repudiation afoot for women, for the ordinary working class, for children, ordinary married family life, settled cultural traditions - every aspect of the culture that was hospitable and open to the world in the hope of spreading civilisation.
It has been repaid by repudiation by a flood of haters and undermines.





That's what the ladies are saying on other fora, Frank.  I'm on their side in this.
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Reply #589 - Aug 31st, 2024 at 11:49pm
 
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/style/domestic-abuse-charity-allows-men-who-...

And some of you sock ring-holes here wonder why - on top of the abuse I copped from the illustrious sock Lefty - I now, having looked into it - oppose this dreadful trend:-

https://womensrightsageofgender.quora.com/This-is-One-of-the-Saddest-Stories-I-v...
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Reply #590 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:26pm
 
Let kids be kids  Angry



Victorian government accused of indoctrinating kids with 'fringe theories about sex and gender' after launch of 'rainbow libraries toolkit'


The Victorian government has been accused of indoctrinating children with "fringe theories about sex and gender" after staff at the state's public libraries were given guidance to ask kids as young as five about their gender pronouns.


1 September 2024

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The Victorian government has been accused of indoctrinating children after it launched a new set of guidelines that recommends library staff ask kids as young as five about their gender pronouns.

Staff at Victoria’s more than 290 public libraries have been provided with a new “rainbow libraries toolkit” in order to create more inclusive spaces for LGBTIQA+ communities.

The toolkit, which was launched by the Allan government on Friday, advises library staff that they can become more LGBTIQA+ friendly by adding books on gender diversity to their collections, promoting drag queen story events, and avoiding the use of “gendered language”.

In a section labelled "Non-Gendered Interactions”, the toolkit advises library staff not to assume the gender pronouns of primary school-aged children.

“It is also important to recognise that, especially for young people, gender identity and sexuality can shift or evolve over time,” the toolkit states.

“Children in particular may want to experiment with different gender expressions through dressing up, and we can support them by avoiding mapping our expectations of gender onto them.”

Library staff are told that even if they are “familiar” with a child who visits their library, they should “leave room for them to express a change in their identity”, including by prompting them if they still go by the same pronouns.

“Checking in casually about their pronouns (‘Do you still prefer he/him pronouns?’; ‘Do you still go by Sam, or is there something else you’d like me to use?’) can let a young person in particular know that you are safe, accepting and flexible and that, by extension, so is the library,” the guidelines state.

FULL STORY: https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/victorian-government-accused-of-indoctrinating-kids-with-fringe-theories-about-sex-and-gender-after-launch-of-rainbow-libraries-toolkit/news-story/d23116388d1f31a111af12bae0b898d4
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Reply #591 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:44pm
 
MattE wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:
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That's exactly what they're doing.

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Reply #592 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:44pm:
MattE wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:
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That's exactly what they're doing.



I had no interest in"gender" at all when I was 5, 6, 7.

You?
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Reply #593 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:08pm
 
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No evidence that there is one. Just people doing the best they can.
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Reply #594 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:13pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:08pm:
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No evidence that there is one. Just people doing the best they can.


Just people doing the best they can not to leave children out of their world view...
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Reply #595 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:44pm:
MattE wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:
Let kids be kids  Angry



That's exactly what they're doing.




Then it won't hurt to not be there in drag, will it?  The kids can be kids without that.

Where is the need for it and what are the benefits - apart from some airy-fairy idea designed by some 'social scientist'?  Do you seriously reckon all those kids, unless subjected to this garbage, will grow up to be poofter bashers or something?  Poofters are the LEAST bashed other than by one another, and the alleged hunting down of trannies is nothing but a lie.
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Reply #596 - Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:24pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:44pm:
MattE wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:
Let kids be kids  Angry



That's exactly what they're doing.




Then it won't hurt to not be there in drag, will it? 


Won't hurt to not be in drag, and won't hurt if they are in drag.

So why deny them the experience?

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Reply #597 - Sep 3rd, 2024 at 8:46am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 6th, 2024 at 1:34pm:
Check out the video of the first tranny of France

https://t.me/AussieTruckiesUnite/135584?single




Why would anyone do THAT ?


Pavel Durov, the founder and chief executive of the messaging app Telegram, is facing preliminary charges after French authorities barred him from leaving France.

Mr Durov was arrested on Saturday outside Paris as part of an investigation into child abuse material and drug trafficking on Telegram.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-29/telegram-pavel-durov-banned-from-leaving-...



Telegram is RENOWNED for posting any unverifiable rubbish that has been refused by Facebook, YouTube, Instagram and Twitter. etc.



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Reply #598 - Sep 3rd, 2024 at 9:40am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:24pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:44pm:
MattE wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:
Let kids be kids  Angry



That's exactly what they're doing.




Then it won't hurt to not be there in drag, will it? 


Won't hurt to not be in drag, and won't hurt if they are in drag.

So why deny them the experience?




Why do you think they need the experience?
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Reply #599 - Sep 3rd, 2024 at 1:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:24pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:44pm:
MattE wrote on Sep 2nd, 2024 at 8:26pm:
Let kids be kids  Angry



That's exactly what they're doing.




Then it won't hurt to not be there in drag, will it? 


Won't hurt to not be in drag, and won't hurt if they are in drag.

So why deny them the experience?



Ridiculous inversion ... there is no need for children to see people in drag.

What experience is that for a tot?  Why would they need it at that age?

Keep the queers out of schools.
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