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Reply #735 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 12:54pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 12:21pm:

Really? How can findings that lead to recommendations for further and in-depth reviews, collections and analysis be 'exploited by misrepresenting'?

You're quoting from tranny blogs... again.

So, there is no form of evidence that can change your mind then, is that what you're saying with your limp-wristed dismissal attempt?

No wonder you're too afraid to even quote the question in your reply.

You're desperately grasping again. I read this from start to finish - it is the final report as published officially. Get a life, both of you. why are you so afraid to even read it and look at the recommendations? Why would I bother to quote a lie?

What 'evidence' has been presented apart from mothra's monologues?

This is evidence:-

https://cass.independent-review.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/CassReview_Final.p...

Where's yours? mothra? Where's yours?

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #737 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:05pm

Phew - they've broken for lunch...... they'll need a couple of cold ones to get over that thrashing... bloody school holidays... probably in the conference room working out their next ploy ... their next sally against a published review that they don;t like - but against which they have yet to post a single piece of anything resembling evidence - only their headspace words...

Poor souls........ it must be hard for them to live with those disabilities...

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #738 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:18pm

No good giving the bastards a break now that they're on the run... this might even give them a little EVIDENCE to present if they actually read any - not all OPINIONS are against the madness of transgenderism .. some pussy-foot around it - the first one is a masterpiece of pussy-footing:-

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/sep/06/instagram-posts/gender-affirmi...

https://segm.org/Denmark-sharply-restricts-youth-gender-transitions

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2023-07-12/why-european-coun...

https://www.euronews.com/health/2024/12/13/the-uk-is-the-latest-country-to-ban-p...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10875134/

https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2024/06/13/europe-pulls-back-on-transgender-trea...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2023/12/02/europe-and-us-diverge-on-tre...

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230208-sweden-puts-brakes-on-treatments-...

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #739 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:27pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 12:44pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 12:21pm:

Really? How can findings that lead to recommendations for further and in-depth reviews, collections and analysis be 'exploited by misrepresenting'?

You're quoting from tranny blogs... again.

So, there is no form of evidence that can change your mind then, is that what you're saying with your limp-wristed dismissal attempt?

No wonder you're too afraid to even quote the question in your reply.

You're desperately grasping again. I read this from start to finish - it is the final report as published officially. Get a life, both of you. why are you so afraid to even read it and look at the recommendations? Why would I bother to quote a lie?

What 'evidence' has been presented apart from mothra's monologues?

This is evidence:-

https://cass.independent-review.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/CassReview_Final.p...

Where's yours? mothra? Where's yours?

Let me repeat.

Before I play your game, given you have proven to be a horrendously bad-faith actor when it comes to this sort of thing, I'm asking you to set the terms of reference.

You're demanding evidence, I'm asking you to state, so you can't weasel out of it later, what sources will you consider to be evidence?

I've listed some, including the author of the Review, will you accept those?

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #740 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:33pm

Not making the effort but weaseling out, eh?

Try again... Plenty there for you to go on - present your evidence and I'll let you know its worth... Grin

Those vapour trails you see up there? They're not the Trannywaffe you know..... those guns you hear are not a salute to the heroic shape-shifters ... but that soft tread you are hearing in the courtyard is the steady movement of history.... of which you are now on the wrong side....... **gloats**

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #741 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:54pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:33pm:

Not making the effort but weaseling out, eh?

Try again... Plenty there for you to go on - present your evidence and I'll let you know its worth... Grin

Those vapour trails you see up there? They're not the Trannywaffe you know..... those guns you hear are not a salute to the heroic shape-shifters ... but that soft tread you are hearing in the courtyard is the steady movement of history.... of which you are now on the wrong side....... **gloats**

So, you refuse to specify what kind of evidence would change your mind, and you won’t even state which sources you’d accept it from...

What’s the point then?

You’ve made it abundantly clear you won’t change your mind, and now you're gloating like it’s some kind of victory? This just means your opinion is formed by a belief, not by reality.

You will only accept evidence that tells you what you want to hear, and you're refusing to open the door to anything else.

You’ve just conceded defeat once again, yet you’re too thick to recognise it.

If you’re actually capable of engaging in good faith, I’m happy to entertain it, but history has shown you're utterly incapable of that.

Prove me wrong though, the ball’s in your court, champ.

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #742 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 2:11pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:54pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 1:33pm:

Not making the effort but weaseling out, eh?

Try again... Plenty there for you to go on - present your evidence and I'll let you know its worth... Grin

Those vapour trails you see up there? They're not the Trannywaffe you know..... those guns you hear are not a salute to the heroic shape-shifters ... but that soft tread you are hearing in the courtyard is the steady movement of history.... of which you are now on the wrong side....... **gloats**

So, you refuse to specify what kind of evidence would change your mind, and you won’t even state which sources you’d accept it from...

What’s the point then?

You’ve made it abundantly clear you won’t change your mind, and now you're gloating like it’s some kind of victory? This just means your opinion is formed by a belief, not by reality.

You will only accept evidence that tells you what you want to hear, and you're refusing to open the door to anything else.

You’ve just conceded defeat once again, yet you’re too thick to recognise it.

If you’re actually capable of engaging in good faith, I’m happy to entertain it, but history has shown you're utterly incapable of that.

Prove me wrong though, the ball’s in your court, champ.

I think a very good evidence would be if you could demonstrate that a man transformed himself into a woman and a woman transformed herself into man.

Transforming the meaning of words is not sufficient evidence.

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #743 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:07pm

I find it amazing that anyone would ask for me to say what 'evidence' would convince me.... bizarre - the idea, children - is to put up your evidence and see if it convinces.

Dear old mothra has attacked Cass - without reading the published final report without all the boring details that she tries so desperately says something different and it's a failure to not read 900 pages of figures and extracted small clips from discussions ... and clearly states that Cass was compromised in some way, but refuses to say how, when and by whom.... refuses to present a single skerrick of evidence - and yet feels entitled to condemn Cass out of hand while attacking the messenger....

Slowly for the slow: WHERE .... IS... YOUR.... EVIDENCE? TELL us how, when, where and by whom the Cass Review has been found wanting..... do I have to spoon feed you? It's good to know that you have upped staff during the coming holiday period - you might find some real miscreants out there - the real creeps who get kids into this garbage ... maybe you're bored and you feel the role beneath you...

You're like the idiot who said that by posting a photo of a car in a disabled spot without a Disability Card showing meant that I was 'attacking the disabled'.... I AM one of the disabled with a card - had it for years .... same utter lack of reasoning here... you attack the messenger seeking to save kids and minors from vile intrusions and vicious outcomes, and you try to make out I am abusing kids by not allowing them to be mutilated.... I pursue the evils of Aboriginal crime (93% remember) and you clowns say that means I'm 'racist' against Aborigines! Clearly NONE of you is an Aborigine or knows anything about anything....

WHERE ...... IS ..... YOUR .... EVIDENCE? It's not a hard question.... you don't have to convince me - just certify that you have some leg to stand on..... I can do the rest to you ...... Cool

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #744 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:49pm

Let the spoon feeding begin! Lay out for us your problems with THIS recommendation from the Cass Review:-

Recommendation 1:
Given the complexity of this
population, these services must
operate to the same standards
as other services seeing children
and young people with complex
presentations and/or additional
risk factors. There should be a
nominated medical practitioner
(paediatrician/child psychiatrist) who
takes overall clinical responsibility
for patient safety within the service.

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #745 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:37pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 3:07pm:

I find it amazing that anyone would ask for me to say what 'evidence' would convince me.... bizarre - the idea, children - is to put up your evidence and see if it convinces.

Dear old mothra has attacked Cass - without reading the published final report without all the boring details that she tries so desperately says something different and it's a failure to not read 900 pages of figures and extracted small clips from discussions ... and clearly states that Cass was compromised in some way, but refuses to say how, when and by whom.... refuses to present a single skerrick of evidence - and yet feels entitled to condemn Cass out of hand while attacking the messenger....

Slowly for the slow: WHERE .... IS... YOUR.... EVIDENCE? TELL us how, when, where and by whom the Cass Review has been found wanting..... do I have to spoon feed you? It's good to know that you have upped staff during the coming holiday period - you might find some real miscreants out there - the real creeps who get kids into this garbage ... maybe you're bored and you feel the role beneath you...

You're like the idiot who said that by posting a photo of a car in a disabled spot without a Disability Card showing meant that I was 'attacking the disabled'.... I AM one of the disabled with a card - had it for years .... same utter lack of reasoning here... you attack the messenger seeking to save kids and minors from vile intrusions and vicious outcomes, and you try to make out I am abusing kids by not allowing them to be mutilated.... I pursue the evils of Aboriginal crime (93% remember) and you clowns say that means I'm 'racist' against Aborigines! Clearly NONE of you is an Aborigine or knows anything about anything....

WHERE ...... IS ..... YOUR .... EVIDENCE? It's not a hard question.... you don't have to convince me - just certify that you have some leg to stand on..... I can do the rest to you ...... Cool

I didn't attack the Cass Report. Yet more evidence you've absolutely no idea what is being said to you.

I said you hadn't read it and that it aligns more with my ideology than yours.

In fact, it proves you wrong, wrong, wrong.

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #746 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:41pm

Let the spoon feeding begin! Lay out for us your problems with THIS recommendation from the Cass Review:-

P.S. " what hard science supports transgenderism?

Well, the Cass report for a start." Indeed it does - under a fully developed body of Science (not 'the science') and under full review and proper regulation and control, which will bring down most of your basic tenets. So - you should have no difficulty here:-

Recommendation 1:
Given the complexity of this
population, these services must
operate to the same standards
as other services seeing children
and young people with complex
presentations and/or additional
risk factors. There should be a
nominated medical practitioner
(paediatrician/child psychiatrist) who
takes overall clinical responsibility
for patient safety within the service.

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #747 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:47pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:41pm:

Let the spoon feeding begin! Lay out for us your problems with THIS recommendation from the Cass Review:-

P.S. " what hard science supports transgenderism?

Well, the Cass report for a start." Indeed it does - under a fully developed body of Science (not 'the science') and under full review and proper regulation and control, which will bring down most of your basic tenets. So - you should have no difficulty here:-

Recommendation 1:
Given the complexity of this
population, these services must
operate to the same standards
as other services seeing children
and young people with complex
presentations and/or additional
risk factors. There should be a
nominated medical practitioner
(paediatrician/child psychiatrist) who
takes overall clinical responsibility
for patient safety within the service.

You mean the children and young people you refuse to accept?

Why on earth would i have a problem with any of that.

No idea what is being said to you.

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #748 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 5:07pm

Mothra ideology:- I agree totally with the Cass Review, and the dire need to bring the massively damaging 'transgender' delusion under proper control and administration and safeguard to protect minors and children and ensure adequate treatment for genuine sufferers from this multi-based 'conflict between mind and body (= mental issue) (about 0.01% at most)... but I will always go to war with others who hold the exact same views, since if I did not, it would make me seem less 'powerful', knowledgeable (LMAO) and eddicated.... and I will fight that position to the last person, as long as I am not obliged to actually agree with someone else with the same views, and especially I will not be lectured to about transgender madness by THAT man!

Clear madness, mothra... as I said - this is like the guy complaining at me that I was hating on disabled by complaining about a vehicle with no disability card parked in a disability space.... as sensible as... what you lack in reality - make up for in bombast and obfuscation... there HAS to be something in the water ... I'm on tanks.....

That applies not only to you... but to all the jerks who just want to oppose for the sake of opposing.... now just say, nicely and genuinely - "Yes, Sir." and toddle off.

You could have saved a whole day of nonsense argument by simply saying - "We are on the same side regarding Cass....."... but not you - you have this incredible need to make out you are smarter and more knowledgeable than others so you will argue the leg off a table while kids cut off their balls and tits to suit madness... it is YOUR kind who push people to demanding total blocking of the whole madness. Me? I got the floors vacuumed, picked some tomatoes, read a book for a while, helped the Eld Gel pack away family heirlooms, put up some Christmas lights, watered the gardens on this hot day, did the washing, fixed an electric timer.... well you know .. all this while slicing and dicing dorks here.... YOU CAN DO BETTER!

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Re: The Tranny Agenda
Reply #749 - Dec 17^th, 2024 at 5:50pm

mothra wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 4:41pm:

Let the spoon feeding begin! Lay out for us your problems with THIS recommendation from the Cass Review:-

P.S. " what hard science supports transgenderism?

Well, the Cass report for a start." Indeed it does - under a fully developed body of Science (not 'the science') and under full review and proper regulation and control, which will bring down most of your basic tenets. So - you should have no difficulty here:-

Recommendation 1:
Given the complexity of this
population, these services must
operate to the same standards
as other services seeing children
and young people with complex
presentations and/or additional
risk factors. There should be a
nominated medical practitioner
(paediatrician/child psychiatrist) who
takes overall clinical responsibility
for patient safety within the service.

You mean the children and young people you refuse to accept?

Why on earth would i have a problem with any of that.

No idea what is being said to you.

You have got to be kidding - what on earth are you raving about? They are fully accepted - as the kids they ARE - not as their minds and mislead ideas lead them to think they want to imagine they are, under the 'guidance' of self-profiting lunatics and maniacs with a knife...

You have a serious problem with safeguarding children and minors from The Madness?

All this means is that you are blustering again and have zero idea what Cass actually says.

That's CASS recommendation 1 (at a time) - you'd know that if you READ the report - what are your issues with it?

Bluster and bullshit from you, as usual...

I'm Ambitiongender - I wanted to be an astronaut, captain of a ship in a fierce battle at 73 deg North, a fireman, a copper, a full doctor...... real life got in the way..... I've had Astronaut Dysphoria... oh, man - the torment...

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