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Reply #840 - Yesterday at 7:04pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 6:58pm:
So by your logic, since you can't quote anywhere in the case review that rejects gender affirmation, you lose?


Your English is failing you... given your hilarious attempt to turn it into something about me again and not the realities - along with your mind.

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"So by your logic, since you any person can't quote anywhere in the case review that rejects accepts gender affirmation, you lose that person is wrong in saying it does?"

Well - yes - they are wrong ......
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Reply #841 - Yesterday at 8:02pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote Yesterday at 7:04pm:
SadKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 6:58pm:
So by your logic, since you can't quote anywhere in the case review that rejects gender affirmation, you lose?


Your English is failing you... given your hilarious attempt to turn it into something about me again and not the realities - along with your mind.

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"So by your logic, since you any person can't quote anywhere in the case review that rejects accepts gender affirmation, you lose that person is wrong in saying it does?"

Well - yes - they are wrong ......


But I explained already that the recommendations are supporting better outcomes for gender affirming care, but you rejected that because there isn't a direct quote from the author (because it wasn't the aim of the study), saying they support gender affirmation.

How does that not equally apply to the inverse and your position?

They don't say directly that they reject it, so you're saying the safeguards in their recommendations means it's rejected?

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You've just done what you've rejected from others.

You can't have it both ways.

So which is it?

Especially since you're the one who suggested they accepted it and demanded others prove it.

You've failed miserably and by your own standard to prove your point from the review.
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Reply #842 - Yesterday at 8:36pm
 


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Reply #843 - Yesterday at 9:16pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 8:02pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote Yesterday at 7:04pm:
SadKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 6:58pm:
So by your logic, since you can't quote anywhere in the case review that rejects gender affirmation, you lose?


Your English is failing you... given your hilarious attempt to turn it into something about me again and not the realities - along with your mind.

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"So by your logic, since you any person can't quote anywhere in the case review that rejects accepts gender affirmation, you lose that person is wrong in saying it does?"

Well - yes - they are wrong ......


But I explained already that the recommendations are supporting better outcomes for gender affirming care, but you rejected that because there isn't a direct quote from the author (because it wasn't the aim of the study), saying they support gender affirmation.

How does that not equally apply to the inverse and your position?

They don't say directly that they reject it, so you're saying the safeguards in their recommendations means it's rejected?

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You've just done what you've rejected from others.

You can't have it both ways.

So which is it?

Especially since you're the one who suggested they accepted it and demanded others prove it.

You've failed miserably and by your own standard to prove your point from the review.


What are you raving about?  The moment you started off on the wrong foot - I stopped reading the nonsense.  You've never yet heard my 'position', since you've wound all discussion up in your chosen path of personality clash rather than actual issues.

'They don't say directly' - no need to - a full range of diagnostics and treatments automatically precludes the current false approach of  instant 'gender affirmation' from a list on the desk, and starting on the Low Road of drugs and cutting from there.

I've 'failed' in nothing - the review will overturn the current approach of instant gender affirming - the reviews under way and the stopping of such things as puberty blockers in nation after nation show the way this is going.  At the end of the day the 'transgender' community will be once again miniscule - all the pretenders or false leads will be weeded out, leaving only the very tiny number of 'real' ones - the intractables (if such a term as real can be applied to this gross distortion of reality)... and as I've said over and over - those who remain - last transwomen standing, so to speak - may then receive better care.

Defined as 'the confusion between mind and body' - in a perfectly normally functioning body - that leaves only one resolution.... it's a head problem.

You are on the wrong side of history.

You clearly have issues with understanding, and forever try to turn any discussion into a personal dispute - you lose again.
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Reply #844 - Yesterday at 9:18pm
 
God, you're a waste of time - and deliberately so - but it's not working.

"But I explained already that the recommendations are supporting better outcomes for gender affirming care, but you rejected that because there isn't a direct quote from the author (because it wasn't the aim of the study), saying they support gender affirmation."

I said nothing of the sort, rejected nothing of the kind.

I am more than aware that the recommendations are supporting better outcomes for those who think or hope they have gender issues... nothing at all to do with 'gender affirmation' other than dispensing with it.

You just keep going round and round in your own head.
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Reply #845 - Yesterday at 9:41pm
 
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Reply #846 - Yesterday at 9:42pm
 
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Reply #847 - Yesterday at 9:44pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote Yesterday at 9:16pm:
SadKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 8:02pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote Yesterday at 7:04pm:
SadKangaroo wrote Yesterday at 6:58pm:
So by your logic, since you can't quote anywhere in the case review that rejects gender affirmation, you lose?


Your English is failing you... given your hilarious attempt to turn it into something about me again and not the realities - along with your mind.

Corrects:-

"So by your logic, since you any person can't quote anywhere in the case review that rejects accepts gender affirmation, you lose that person is wrong in saying it does?"

Well - yes - they are wrong ......


But I explained already that the recommendations are supporting better outcomes for gender affirming care, but you rejected that because there isn't a direct quote from the author (because it wasn't the aim of the study), saying they support gender affirmation.

How does that not equally apply to the inverse and your position?

They don't say directly that they reject it, so you're saying the safeguards in their recommendations means it's rejected?

https://media.tenor.com/GGsAuhNz75YAAAAM/katonen-leo-pointing.gif

You've just done what you've rejected from others.

You can't have it both ways.

So which is it?

Especially since you're the one who suggested they accepted it and demanded others prove it.

You've failed miserably and by your own standard to prove your point from the review.


What are you raving about?  The moment you started off on the wrong foot - I stopped reading the nonsense.


Then as usual, it's pointless engaging with you, white flag accepted, we're done.
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Reply #848 - Yesterday at 9:56pm
 
Your fanatical clinging to 'gender affirmation' in the days of 'fact-based diagnosis' is the greatest white flag ever presented.

You cling desperately to the last floating match after the shipwreck and just keep going round and round in circles, trying to smokescreen your utter defeat by loading your responses. It's not working.

There is no more 'gender affirmation' in the Civilised World.
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Reply #849 - Today at 12:17am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote Yesterday at 9:56pm:
Your fanatical clinging to 'gender affirmation' in the days of 'fact-based diagnosis' is the greatest white flag ever presented.

You cling desperately to the last floating match after the shipwreck and just keep going round and round in circles, trying to smokescreen your utter defeat by loading your responses. It's not working.

There is no more 'gender affirmation' in the Civilised World.



I swore to myself i wouldn't bother, you're just too ridiculous but this couldn't go uncorrected.

The Cass Report is a raft of recommendations for gender affirming care, you preposterous old fool.

Just because you don't agree with what a thing sounds like, it doesn't mean that thing doesn't exist.
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Reply #850 - Today at 4:53am
 
mothra wrote Today at 12:17am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote Yesterday at 9:56pm:
Your fanatical clinging to 'gender affirmation' in the days of 'fact-based diagnosis' is the greatest white flag ever presented.

You cling desperately to the last floating match after the shipwreck and just keep going round and round in circles, trying to smokescreen your utter defeat by loading your responses. It's not working.

There is no more 'gender affirmation' in the Civilised World.



I swore to myself i wouldn't bother, you're just too ridiculous but this couldn't go uncorrected.

The Cass Report is a raft of recommendations for gender affirming care, you preposterous old fool.

Just because you don't agree with what a thing sounds like, it doesn't mean that thing doesn't exist.



incorrect.

the trans issue was the number one issue for undecided voters in america

if harris had come out and said


a woman is an ADULT FEMALE HUMAN she may have won the election.

people with common sense know that is what a woman is

the refusal of morons like yourself to speak with common sense makes you come accross as arrogant smug superior dickheads (which you are)

till you realise this character flaw, the majority of people are going to treat you that way and rightly so
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Reply #851 - Today at 8:38am
 
aquascoot wrote Today at 4:53am:
mothra wrote Today at 12:17am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote Yesterday at 9:56pm:
Your fanatical clinging to 'gender affirmation' in the days of 'fact-based diagnosis' is the greatest white flag ever presented.

You cling desperately to the last floating match after the shipwreck and just keep going round and round in circles, trying to smokescreen your utter defeat by loading your responses. It's not working.

There is no more 'gender affirmation' in the Civilised World.



I swore to myself i wouldn't bother, you're just too ridiculous but this couldn't go uncorrected.

The Cass Report is a raft of recommendations for gender affirming care, you preposterous old fool.

Just because you don't agree with what a thing sounds like, it doesn't mean that thing doesn't exist.



incorrect.

the trans issue was the number one issue for undecided voters in america

if harris had come out and said


a woman is an ADULT FEMALE HUMAN she may have won the election.

people with common sense know that is what a woman is

the refusal of morons like yourself to speak with common sense makes you come accross as arrogant smug superior dickheads (which you are)

till you realise this character flaw, the majority of people are going to treat you that way and rightly so


You're blatantly conflating the culture war over the existence and acceptance of trans people with the Cass Review.

While you're not the only one doing this, it's still as tiresome as it is transparent.

The Cass Review was commissioned by the NHS in the UK to investigate the services provided to children and young people experiencing gender dysphoria. Led by Dr Hilary Cass, its focus was clear: assess the quality, safety, and effectiveness of care, particularly at the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust.

The recommendations were aimed at improving gender-affirming care for the identified group. Full stop.

You’re free to indulge in debates about whether trans people should exist or reduce it all to "mental health issues" if that's the particular flavour of bigotry you're into, but none of that is relevant to the Cass Review.

And here’s the hard truth: calling for more robust data and studies into the effectiveness of treatments like puberty blockers or surgeries isn’t an attack on gender affirmation. It’s about ensuring better outcomes for current and future patients. Yet certain bad-faith actors, those obsessive, mendacious types, keep twisting this into a referendum on trans existence.

They can’t quote where the review supports their narrative because it doesn’t and they know it. Instead of proving their baseless claims, they resort to demanding others disprove them. That’s already been done, of course, but they simply ignore it, reject the evidence, and then smugly declare that their unproven assertions must be valid because nothing has "disproved" them to their satisfaction.

The real issue? Their pet topic wasn’t within the scope of the review. It’s neither confirmed nor debunked because it wasn’t relevant. And yet, they made the claim, so the burden of proof is on them, a burden they’re entirely incapable of shouldering.

But why let facts get in the way? They’ve already decided the outcome they want, and they’ll twist, distort, and outright fabricate reality to fit their fragile, self-serving narrative. It’s intellectual dishonesty at its most predictable and pathetic.

It’s the same dreary, cowardly tactic we’ve seen before, loud, ignorant, and desperately clinging to their imagined victimhood.

This review is based in the UK, and you're talking about US politics.

You're better than that Scoot.
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Reply #852 - Today at 8:53am
 
"You're blatantly conflating the culture war over the existence and acceptance of trans people with the Cass Review."

Absurd comment of the year - rest ignored.  I have no interest in any 'culture war' - just protection of the young.

What 'culture war'?  You are extremely paranoid... quite mad... watch out for the trans haters under every bed - all those parents distraught at their kids being drugged etc are hostiles... you are quite mad..

The Cass Review lays out the best treatment options for 'trans kids' - a passing phase in most cases but with often lasting harm done - and it does so by instantly by-passing this absurd and unfounded 'gender affirmation' madness, and inserting in its place a full series of COSTLY tests and analyses and assistance lasting until age eighteen.

You are the one engaging in some 'culture war' to try to impose this abuse of children on society - the rest of us are merely interested in seeing kids and minors not harmed and left out of this madness.

Tell us what your agenda is and why you are attempting to do this....

Note:-  There it is right there, ordinary people. First accuse everyone of being your 'enemy', then accuse them of 'conflating' some mythical 'culture war' with a valid report that recommends total change, then carry on and rave that failing to give them what they want on demand is somehow 'denying their existence' and 'not accepting' them.  Idioten - their 'existence' as patients with problems is clear - their 'acceptance' as patients in need of full and costly intervention is clear.

Is is clearest that those who carry on the way this character does have a host of serious issues themselves....
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Reply #853 - Today at 8:59am
 
Moving along with reality:-

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