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Re: Joe Biden , 81 Million votes ?
Reply #750 - May 1st, 2024 at 12:02am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 8:15pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 6:15pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
Oh, so we are switching to Wiki from the experts, eh?

Who was the grimacing little son of Mohammed who was refusing to tapdance to Wiki?

Step forward, wee paki. Or shall I call you Vicky Polkard?



Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
That's a Wikipedia article, dear boy.



Yeah-but-no-but-yeah-but-no, old boy.

It's a Wikipedia article that exposes the entire GOP racket to return to the days of Jim Crow. It's what is known in civilised circles as LAWFARE !!!

Of course you prove voter fraud by the rate of convictions. That's how you prove business fraud, charity fraud, rape, election interference and all the other crimes and civil findings the big fella's already been done on.

It's called evidence based on:

a) The balance of probabilities, and
b) Beyond a reasonable doubt

The Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program was shut down using the former, so we'll ask you again.

How many cases of voter fraud were uncovered in the 2020 election? You have the data in front of you.

What's the matter, dear boy, cat got your tongue?


Oh?!  What happened to 'let's look at the experts, paki tapdancer?? Now it's all wiki 'exposure'  when the experts don't go your paki, Vicky Pollard way.


Different types of election fraud

There are many ways for criminals to steal votes and change the outcome of an election. These include:

Impersonation fraud at the polls:Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

False registrations: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

Duplicate voting: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

Fraudulent use of absentee ballots: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

Buying votes: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

Illegal “assistance” at the polls: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

Ineligible voting: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

Altering the vote count: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

Ballot petition fraud: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

Tapdance to that, paki. Better still, take the turd for a tango with you.


Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we'll announce the results. You have the facts,  feel free to prove us wrong.

I'm going with 17. Yes, 17 convictions for voter fraud for the most contested US election in history, 2020.

And do you know? The overwealming majority of those convictions were Republicans.

No mass voter fraud, no prisoners, no illegal immigrants voting - they can't even get the ID to register, never mind being bovvered. How do we know?

Your AG said.

So there you go. You go to the Heritage Foundation's voter fraud database, make a tally and prove us wrong

Until then, you carry on camping, you naughty old thing. Be sure to toast a sausage for silly old moi.

Cheers.
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Re: Joe Biden , 81 Million votes ?
Reply #751 - May 1st, 2024 at 7:13am
 
Karnal wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 12:02am:
Frank wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 8:15pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 6:15pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
Oh, so we are switching to Wiki from the experts, eh?

Who was the grimacing little son of Mohammed who was refusing to tapdance to Wiki?

Step forward, wee paki. Or shall I call you Vicky Polkard?



Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
That's a Wikipedia article, dear boy.



Yeah-but-no-but-yeah-but-no, old boy.

It's a Wikipedia article that exposes the entire GOP racket to return to the days of Jim Crow. It's what is known in civilised circles as LAWFARE !!!

Of course you prove voter fraud by the rate of convictions. That's how you prove business fraud, charity fraud, rape, election interference and all the other crimes and civil findings the big fella's already been done on.

It's called evidence based on:

a) The balance of probabilities, and
b) Beyond a reasonable doubt

The Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program was shut down using the former, so we'll ask you again.

How many cases of voter fraud were uncovered in the 2020 election? You have the data in front of you.

What's the matter, dear boy, cat got your tongue?


Oh?!  What happened to 'let's look at the experts, paki tapdancer?? Now it's all wiki 'exposure'  when the experts don't go your paki, Vicky Pollard way.


Different types of election fraud

There are many ways for criminals to steal votes and change the outcome of an election. These include:

Impersonation fraud at the polls:Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

False registrations: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

Duplicate voting: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

Fraudulent use of absentee ballots: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

Buying votes: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

Illegal “assistance” at the polls: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

Ineligible voting: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

Altering the vote count: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

Ballot petition fraud: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

Tapdance to that, paki. Better still, take the turd for a tango with you.


Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we'll announce the results. You have the facts,  feel free to prove us wrong.

I'm going with 17. Yes, 17 convictions for voter fraud for the most contested US election in history, 2020.

And do you know? The overwealming majority of those convictions were Republicans.

No mass voter fraud, no prisoners, no illegal immigrants voting - they can't even get the ID to register, never mind being bovvered. How do we know?

Your AG said.

So there you go. You go to the Heritage Foundation's voter fraud database, make a tally and prove us wrong

Until then, you carry on camping, you naughty old thing. Be sure to toast a sausage for silly old moi.

Cheers.


Oh dear.

Frank has had his ass handed to him   Undecided
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Re: Joe Biden , 81 Million votes ?
Reply #752 - May 1st, 2024 at 9:35am
 
Karnal wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 12:02am:
Frank wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 8:15pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 6:15pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
Oh, so we are switching to Wiki from the experts, eh?

Who was the grimacing little son of Mohammed who was refusing to tapdance to Wiki?

Step forward, wee paki. Or shall I call you Vicky Polkard?



Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
That's a Wikipedia article, dear boy.



Yeah-but-no-but-yeah-but-no, old boy.

It's a Wikipedia article that exposes the entire GOP racket to return to the days of Jim Crow. It's what is known in civilised circles as LAWFARE !!!

Of course you prove voter fraud by the rate of convictions. That's how you prove business fraud, charity fraud, rape, election interference and all the other crimes and civil findings the big fella's already been done on.

It's called evidence based on:

a) The balance of probabilities, and
b) Beyond a reasonable doubt

The Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program was shut down using the former, so we'll ask you again.

How many cases of voter fraud were uncovered in the 2020 election? You have the data in front of you.

What's the matter, dear boy, cat got your tongue?


Oh?!  What happened to 'let's look at the experts, paki tapdancer?? Now it's all wiki 'exposure'  when the experts don't go your paki, Vicky Pollard way.


Different types of election fraud

There are many ways for criminals to steal votes and change the outcome of an election. These include:

Impersonation fraud at the polls:Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

False registrations: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

Duplicate voting: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

Fraudulent use of absentee ballots: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

Buying votes: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

Illegal “assistance” at the polls: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

Ineligible voting: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

Altering the vote count: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

Ballot petition fraud: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

Tapdance to that, paki. Better still, take the turd for a tango with you.


Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we'll announce the results. You have the facts,  feel free to prove us wrong.

I'm going with 17. Yes, 17 convictions for voter fraud for the most contested US election in history, 2020.

And do you know? The overwealming majority of those convictions were Republicans.

No mass voter fraud, no prisoners, no illegal immigrants voting - they can't even get the ID to register, never mind being bovvered. How do we know?

Your AG said.

So there you go. You go to the Heritage Foundation's voter fraud database, make a tally and prove us wrong

Until then, you carry on camping, you naughty old thing. Be sure to toast a sausage for silly old moi.

Cheers.

Heritage’s Voter Fraud Database contains a sampling of voter fraud cases from across the country, all of which have resulted in either a criminal conviction or an overturned election. The Heritage Database is not representative of the full scope of the problem. Unfortunately, too often voter fraud goes undetected, and when it is discovered, overburdened prosecutors seldom prioritize these cases.
https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/heritage-explains/voter-fraud

What the experts say. How do we know they are experts?

You said, grimacing, tapdancing wee taqiya merchant.



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Reply #754 - May 1st, 2024 at 10:02am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 9:41am:


Ah, you are reduced to the Bbwiyawnesque 'argument by inane memes', you stupid unflushable.



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Reply #755 - May 1st, 2024 at 10:07am
 
Frank wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 10:02am:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 9:41am:


Ah, you are reduced to the Bbwiyawnesque 'argument by inane memes', you stupid unflushable.





Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers (R) on Tuesday said he repeatedly pressed Rudy Giuliani for proof of his claims of election fraud after the 2020 election, but added that Giuliani failed to produce any.

“My recollection, he said, ‘We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence,’” Bowers told the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack at Tuesday’s hearing.

Bowers recalled a meeting with Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, who were representing then-President Trump after the 2020 election as they sought to challenge and overturn the election results in certain states the former president lost.

Bowers said he asked the two for proof of their claims that dead people had voted in large numbers, then asked for names and how the individuals in question voted. But the two did not produce the evidence they had promised, Bowers said.
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Reply #756 - May 1st, 2024 at 9:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 7:13am:
Oh dear.

Frank has had his ass handed to him   Undecided


It's all good - nothing to worry about. His arse is handed to him so often that he has invested in an arsemit just to hold his arse safely.
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Re: Joe Biden , 81 Million votes ?
Reply #757 - May 1st, 2024 at 11:12pm
 
Frank wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 9:35am:
Karnal wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 12:02am:
Frank wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 8:15pm:
Karnal wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 6:15pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 30th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
Oh, so we are switching to Wiki from the experts, eh?

Who was the grimacing little son of Mohammed who was refusing to tapdance to Wiki?

Step forward, wee paki. Or shall I call you Vicky Polkard?



Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2024 at 5:49pm:
That's a Wikipedia article, dear boy.



Yeah-but-no-but-yeah-but-no, old boy.

It's a Wikipedia article that exposes the entire GOP racket to return to the days of Jim Crow. It's what is known in civilised circles as LAWFARE !!!

Of course you prove voter fraud by the rate of convictions. That's how you prove business fraud, charity fraud, rape, election interference and all the other crimes and civil findings the big fella's already been done on.

It's called evidence based on:

a) The balance of probabilities, and
b) Beyond a reasonable doubt

The Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program was shut down using the former, so we'll ask you again.

How many cases of voter fraud were uncovered in the 2020 election? You have the data in front of you.

What's the matter, dear boy, cat got your tongue?


Oh?!  What happened to 'let's look at the experts, paki tapdancer?? Now it's all wiki 'exposure'  when the experts don't go your paki, Vicky Pollard way.


Different types of election fraud

There are many ways for criminals to steal votes and change the outcome of an election. These include:

Impersonation fraud at the polls:Voting in the name of other legitimate voters and voters who have died, moved away, or lost their right to vote because they are felons, but remain registered.

False registrations: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered voter does not actually live and is not entitled to vote.

Duplicate voting: Registering in multiple locations and voting in the same election in more than one jurisdiction or state.

Fraudulent use of absentee ballots: Requesting absentee ballots and voting without the knowledge of the actual voter; or obtaining the absentee ballot from a voter and either filling it in directly and forging the voter’s signature or illegally telling the voter who to vote for.

Buying votes: Paying voters to cast either an in-person or absentee ballot for a particular candidate.

Illegal “assistance” at the polls: Forcing or intimidating voters—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to vote for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

Ineligible voting: Illegal registration and voting by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to vote.

Altering the vote count: Changing the actual vote count either in a precinct or at the central location where votes are counted.

Ballot petition fraud: Forging the signatures of registered voters on the ballot petitions that must be filed with election officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official ballot.

Tapdance to that, paki. Better still, take the turd for a tango with you.


Don't want to say, eh?

All good, we'll announce the results. You have the facts,  feel free to prove us wrong.

I'm going with 17. Yes, 17 convictions for voter fraud for the most contested US election in history, 2020.

And do you know? The overwealming majority of those convictions were Republicans.

No mass voter fraud, no prisoners, no illegal immigrants voting - they can't even get the ID to register, never mind being bovvered. How do we know?

Your AG said.

So there you go. You go to the Heritage Foundation's voter fraud database, make a tally and prove us wrong

Until then, you carry on camping, you naughty old thing. Be sure to toast a sausage for silly old moi.

Cheers.

Heritage’s Voter Fraud Database contains a sampling of voter fraud cases from across the country, all of which have resulted in either a criminal conviction or an overturned election. The Heritage Database is not representative of the full scope of the problem. Unfortunately, too often voter fraud goes undetected, and when it is discovered, overburdened prosecutors seldom prioritize these cases.
https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/heritage-explains/voter-fraud

What the experts say. How do we know they are experts?

You said, grimacing, tapdancing wee taqiya merchant.





Right. So prove us wrong.

I change my tally, old boy. I'm gonna go with 13. 13 naughty old voter-criminals.

Do feel free to prove us wrong, old chap.

Oh, and only two of them voted for poor old Sleepy Joe, you silly old fool.

I could be wrong. Want to show me how?
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Re: Joe Biden , 81 Million votes ?
Reply #758 - May 1st, 2024 at 11:17pm
 
Dnarever wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 9:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2024 at 7:13am:
Oh dear.

Frank has had his ass handed to him   Undecided


It's all good - nothing to worry about. His arse is handed to him so often that he has invested in an arsemit just to hold his arse safely.


Yes, but it's hard, Dnarever. One has one's arse, and one has to add up 50 states worth of data.

That takes effort. It's a bit of a trick, data. It requires a certain skillset, you see, along with an absolute commitment to truth, intelligence and integwity.

Alas, the old boy failed the first hurdle.

Year 9 maths, innit.
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Reply #759 - May 2nd, 2024 at 7:13am
 
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Reply #760 - May 2nd, 2024 at 9:19am
 
Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 7:13am:


Come up with a figure yet? All this Googling is costing you valuable counting time, old boy. Just for fun, I might reduce the figure.

Yes, 11 souls caught cheating in the 2020 election. Boo hoo, no?

This, of course, excludes the big fella's suspects in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.

After all, they're not yet convicted.

You?
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Reply #761 - May 2nd, 2024 at 9:55am
 
Karnal wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:19am:
Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 7:13am:


Come up with a figure yet? All this Googling is costing you valuable counting time, old boy. Just for fun, I might reduce the figure.

Yes, 11 souls caught cheating in the 2020 election. Boo hoo, no?

This, of course, excludes the big fella's suspects in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.

After all, they're not yet convicted.

You?


You look at Biden/Pamela and you see that the election was rigged.

The Heritage site says that their sample is not complete.  The links I posted show that rigging an election takes more than a couple of dead people caught voting.

Importantly, the PARTICULAR fraudulent votes are impossible to identify if cross-checks are not done for eligibility. Mailing out truck loads of absentee ballots and then not verifying the legitimacy of each opens the gates for cheating.

When you have thousands of hastily prepared 3 am votes just for Bidden and all the rest of the various other candidates on the same ballot left unmarked you know there's dirty work at the crossroads. Who cast them? Unchecked, unverified. SO  you can't just discount X number of votes. You have to eliminate the actual fraudulent ones - but you can't do it if you do not check and verify. 

You harp on particular cases but (because) the point all along has been the lack of cross checks and verifications to identify actual fraudulent ballots.


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Reply #762 - May 2nd, 2024 at 9:58am
 
Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:55am:
Karnal wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:19am:
Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 7:13am:


Come up with a figure yet? All this Googling is costing you valuable counting time, old boy. Just for fun, I might reduce the figure.

Yes, 11 souls caught cheating in the 2020 election. Boo hoo, no?

This, of course, excludes the big fella's suspects in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.

After all, they're not yet convicted.

You?


You look at Biden/Pamela and you see that the election was rigged.




So where's the proof?

How come the Trump/GOP-backed audit of votes showed that Biden won?

I'm curious.
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Reply #763 - May 2nd, 2024 at 6:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:58am:
Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:55am:
Karnal wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:19am:
Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 7:13am:


Come up with a figure yet? All this Googling is costing you valuable counting time, old boy. Just for fun, I might reduce the figure.

Yes, 11 souls caught cheating in the 2020 election. Boo hoo, no?

This, of course, excludes the big fella's suspects in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.

After all, they're not yet convicted.

You?


You look at Biden/Pamela and you see that the election was rigged.




So where's the proof?

How come the Trump/GOP-backed audit of votes showed that Biden won?

I'm curious.


The proof? That’s easy. It’s in the site the old boy doesn’t want to read, just cut and paste long screeds of lengthy disclaimers.

You know, the site devoted to tallying and exposing voter fraud, describing itself as a national database - with all the evidence one needs to assess this important national issue, right at our fingertips.

You’ve gotta hand it to the old boy. He was fortunate enough to have studied at the pwestigious University of Balogney.

Not satire.
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Reply #764 - May 2nd, 2024 at 7:40pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 6:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:58am:
Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:55am:
Karnal wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 9:19am:
Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2024 at 7:13am:


Come up with a figure yet? All this Googling is costing you valuable counting time, old boy. Just for fun, I might reduce the figure.

Yes, 11 souls caught cheating in the 2020 election. Boo hoo, no?

This, of course, excludes the big fella's suspects in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.

After all, they're not yet convicted.

You?


You look at Biden/Pamela and you see that the election was rigged.




So where's the proof?

How come the Trump/GOP-backed audit of votes showed that Biden won?

I'm curious.


The proof? That’s easy. It’s in the site the old boy doesn’t want to read, just cut and paste long screeds of lengthy disclaimers.

You know, the site devoted to tallying and exposing voter fraud, describing itself as a national database - with all the evidence one needs to assess this important national issue, right at our fingertips.

You’ve gotta hand it to the old boy. He was fortunate enough to have studied at the pwestigious University of Balogney.

Not satire.


Yep - The dumb ninjas didn't find a trace of Sweet & Sour sauce on any of the ballots.

The problem was they they expected to find evidence but Trump had sent them in to manufacture evidence. This is the problem with using their true believers. The Dumb Ninjas really expected to find corruption and were surprised when they didn't.
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