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Putin speaks
Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:14pm

Tucker, for once, is speechless - apart from his quick embarrassed giggle at the beginning, when Vlad puts him in his place.

Fox News this aint. Tucker let's Vlad continue with a 40 minute monologue on Russian medieval history.

Note the sly reference to Tucker's attempt to join the CIA (he was rejected for disclosing experimental drug use). Vlad always comes prepared with a trick to make his guests squirm.

Despite Vlad's congratulatory backslap when they finished (Tucker's teeth nearly came out), he's been cautiously monitoring for novichok symptoms, just in case.

Ever get the feeling you've been fingered?

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Re: Putin speaks
Reply #1 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:22pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

All hands on deck, leftards. The Superior Man's oa board.

Hand on the tiller, steady as she goes.

Tucker, for once, is speechless - apart from his quick embarrassed giggle at the beginning, when Vlad puts him in his place.

Fox News this aint. Tucker let's Vlad continue with a 40 minute monologue on Russian medieval history.

Note the sly reference to Tucker's attempt to join the CIA (he was rejected for disclosing experimental drug use).

Never interrupt an Alpha, leftards. Vlad always comes prepared with a trick to make his guests squirm.

Ever get the feeling you've been fingered?

You have to be, as you are, a complete paki arse bandit and grimacing clown to make this about Carlson.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104805 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Putin speaks Reply #2 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:30pm I lost interest after 20 minutes - it was all about 500 year old history that no one except Putin cares about.
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Re: Putin speaks
Reply #3 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:31pm

Frank wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

All hands on deck, leftards. The Superior Man's oa board.

Hand on the tiller, steady as she goes.

Tucker, for once, is speechless - apart from his quick embarrassed giggle at the beginning, when Vlad puts him in his place.

Fox News this aint. Tucker let's Vlad continue with a 40 minute monologue on Russian medieval history.

Note the sly reference to Tucker's attempt to join the CIA (he was rejected for disclosing experimental drug use).

Never interrupt an Alpha, leftards. Vlad always comes prepared with a trick to make his guests squirm.

Ever get the feeling you've been fingered?

You have to be, as you are, a complete paki arse bandit and grimacing clown to make this about Carlson.

Thanks for the insightful policial analysis there, dear chap.

Care to offer a view on the interview?

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Re: Putin speaks
Reply #4 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

I lost interest after 20 minutes -

it was all about 500 year old history
that no one except Putin cares about. Roll Eyes

You should give it a watch, Bobby. He gets up to modern history and how he was forced by the US into a special operation to deNatzify Ukraine.

Tucker actually gets a question in - his best one: so how do you deNatzify a country? What does that even mean?

Vlad hums and ha's over that. Tucker actually succeeds in getting a confession that no, Russia has not achieved its objectives in Ukraine

Most journalists would run with that and go for the jugular, but not Tucker. His sole agenda in the interview is getting Vlad to spill his beans on the shadowy Western Deep State.

Vlad dismisses this out of hand. He's not going to be told what to say by some giggling American sycophant, he's not even going there.

He'd rather riff on interesting statistics like Russia being the most successful economy in Europe, despite being so oppressed by the mean Western powers, so unfair.

The longer Vlad talks, the more the veneer of the benign technocratic statesman starts to chip away, leaving you with the butthurt saboteur underneath.

Tucker, as is his nature, is keen to leave that one alone. It's his existential purpose to keep saboteurs in power.

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Re: Putin speaks
Reply #5 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:49pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

I lost interest after 20 minutes -

it was all about 500 year old history
that no one except Putin cares about. Roll Eyes

You should give it a watch, Bobby. He gets up to modern history and how he was forced by the US into a special operation to deNatzify Ukraine.

Tucker actually gets a question in - his best one: so how do you deNatzify a country? What does that even mean?

Vlad hums and ha's over that. Tucker actually succeeds in getting a confession that no, Russia has not achieved its objectives.

Most journalists would run with that and go for the jugular, but not Tucker. His sole agenda in the interview is getting Vlad to spill his beans on the shadowy Western Deep State.

Vlad dismisses this out of hand. He's not going to be told what to say by some giggling American sycophant, he's not even going there.

He'd rather riff on interesting statistics like Russia being the most successful economy in Europe, despite being so oppressed by the mean Western powers, so unfair.

If you could point me to a 1 to 5 minute part worth watching I'll watch it. Huh

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Reply #6 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

I lost interest after 20 minutes -

it was all about 500 year old history
that no one except Putin cares about. Roll Eyes

You should give it a watch, Bobby. He gets up to modern history and how he was forced by the US into a special operation to deNatzify Ukraine.

Tucker actually gets a question in - his best one: so how do you deNatzify a country? What does that even mean?

Vlad hums and ha's over that. Tucker actually succeeds in getting a confession that no, Russia has not achieved its objectives.

Most journalists would run with that and go for the jugular, but not Tucker. His sole agenda in the interview is getting Vlad to spill his beans on the shadowy Western Deep State.

Vlad dismisses this out of hand. He's not going to be told what to say by some giggling American sycophant, he's not even going there.

He'd rather riff on interesting statistics like Russia being the most successful economy in Europe, despite being so oppressed by the mean Western powers, so unfair.

If you could point me to a 1 to 5 minute part worth watching I'll watch it. Huh

Start with Vlad putting Tucker in his place in the beginning. He wasn't sure if he'd been invited to do a serious interview or come on some talk show, you see.

That one cracks Tucker up, but he manages to pull himself together.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104805 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Putin speaks Reply #8 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:02pm Karnal wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:58pm: Start with Vlad putting Tucker in his place in the beginning. He wasn't sure if he'd been invited to do a serious interview or come on some talk show, you see. That one cracks Tucker up, but he manages to pull himself together. I saw the first 20 minutes. It's 2 hours 7 minutes long.
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Reply #9 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

Start with Vlad putting Tucker in his place in the beginning. He wasn't sure if he'd been invited to do a serious interview or come on some talk show, you see.

That one cracks Tucker up, but he manages to pull himself together.

I saw the first 20 minutes.

It's 2 hours 7 minutes long. Roll Eyes

What? You busy?

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Reply #10 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:14pm

JC Denton wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

was boring

keith woods & joel davis each had good takes on it

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Dictators often are, dear. That doesn't make them any less worth watching.

Saddam, Gaddafi, Marcos - all exceptionally boring. What makes them interesting is their idiotic excuses and their insatiable capacity for butthurt victimhood.

Besides, given Vlad's your guy, I believe you have a duty to watch every last minute. If you're going to promote that narrative, you need, at the very least, to get your head around it.

It's definitely worth knowing how Vlad excuses his decision to invade a population of 43 million people and kill so many Russians. You should watch this with the knowledge that we provably won't get any Nuremberg trials of Vlad.

This is the closest we get to looking into the mind of the biggest killer of the 21st century. Tucker's initial instinct was a giggle.

You?

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Reply #11 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:18pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:14pm:

JC Denton wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:59pm:

was boring

keith woods & joel davis each had good takes on it

https://i.imgur.com/JnuDcr1.png

Dictators often are, dear. That doesn't make them any less worth watching.

Saddam, Gaddafi, Marcos - all exceptionally boring. What makes them interesting is their idiotic excuses and their insatiable capacity for butthurt victimhood.

Besides, given Vlad's your guy, I believe you have a duty to watch every last minute. If you're going to promote that narrative, you need, at the very least, to get your head around it.

It's definitely worth knowing how Vlad excuses his decision to invade a population of 43 million people and kill so many Russians. You should watch this with the knowledge that we provably won't get any Nuremberg trials of Vlad.

This is the closest we get to looking into the mind of the biggest killer of the 21st century. Tucker's initial instinct was a giggle.

You?

hitler, mussolini and lee kwan yew definitely were not boring

nor was gaddafi or idi amin

or saddam hussein for that matter?

this is a guy who literally had a copy of the quran made for him written in somebody's blood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Quran

i don't think that's very boring at all

in fact, i think it is reasonable to say that dictators are usually more interesting than the average person

putin is not especially interesting by the standards of most dictators, but is probably more interesting than the average australian going on about sportsball, their investment property and their pet dog

the interview was pretty boring though

russia is more likely than not going to 'win' in ukraine lol, just saying so doesn't make vlad "my guy"

maybe if we were all so concerned about death tolls we'd just stop endlessly arming ukraine and let them organically collapse as they would have roughly around the time of the capture of the severodonetsk-lysychansk conurbation in july 2022 - the result is going to more likely than not be the same eitherway, just with a lot more deaths (more ukrainian than russian, at a probable ratio of about 1.5-2.5 to 1) in the final outcome

ukr's population is prob sub 29m~ at this point btw

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48317 Gender:	Re: Putin speaks Reply #12 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:30pm Dopey Joe said "Build Backwards America!" Ras-Putin said "Back in the USSR!" Both a sad History Lesson the future has to pay a heavy price for. Wake up to yourselves!
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Reply #13 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 4:02pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 10^th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

Start with Vlad putting Tucker in his place in the beginning. He wasn't sure if he'd been invited to do a serious interview or come on some talk show, you see.

That one cracks Tucker up, but he manages to pull himself together.

I saw the first 20 minutes.

It's 2 hours 7 minutes long. Roll Eyes

Watch the discussion from 1.41 on, with Tucker trying to unpack Putin's religion.

Vlad dismisses any personal faith whatsoever. For him, Russian Orthodoxy is all about history, nationhood, traditional values. Vlad even distracts by saying how inclusive Russia is of all religions, but religion ultimately - for a bureaucrat like Vlad - comes down to "the law".

For Tucker, an American evangelical, and Vlad, a KGB-trained assasin, there's no come-to-Jesus moment there. Tucker does everything he can to squeeze a drop of humanity out of Vlad and fails.

He knows he's failed. That's what his apologetic intro is all about.

Tucker went in to give Vlad an opportunity to redeem himself, and Vlad can't help himself. He comes out looking like a complete cunt.

Not a good look for Tucker, eh?

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Reply #14 - Feb 10^th, 2024 at 5:06pm

I think this is very valuable to hear Putin directly, at length, on many subjects.
What he says about neo Nazis, history, American hubris, are a well worth hearing and critically evaluating, rather than rejecting unheard, inconsiderate.

He says it all started with a coup in Ukraine in 2014. I can't say I have the knowledge ( or perhaps even the interest) in the details of Eastern European post-Soviet political intricacies. I don't think the Ukrainians are really that different to the Russians, certainly not historically. I can see his points - makes them a few times in different ways - that the Ukrainians have been sucked into this conflict with not a little push and shove ("help") from the US, NATO and the EU. Whatever happened in 2014, Russia certainly wasn't interested in military annexation of part of Ukraine before it. As he said, they were well integrated (ie Ukraine was in Russia's sphere of influence).

As he also said, quite rightly, doesn't America have bigger issues like the border, debt etc to deal with than finance a proxi war in Eastern Europe?

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