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Cheap Chinese cladding kills again?
Feb 24th, 2024 at 6:04am
 
Was it illegal, cheap Chinese cladding again like at the Grenfell Tower?


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68379253


Valencia fire: Ten bodies found as Spanish police search gutted flats



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In all, 138 flats housing 450 people were devastated by the fire.


"The reason the [building] burned so fast is because of this type of cladding," said Esther Puchades, the college vice president who said she had previously inspected the building.

Although the aluminium-covered panels were not considered combustible, that type of cladding was allowed under building regulations at the time of the building, which was finished in 2008, but has since been banned.

But there was no programme to strip the banned cladding away, which was what happened in the UK following the Grenfell Tower fire in 2017, where the process continues.



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Reply #1 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 1:31pm
 
Imagine a 'forest fire' of all those high rise slum buildings packed together like in other parts of the world.
Couple of missile strikes or arson and places like Hong Kong that are densely packed can go up whooshka!
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 1:44pm
 
Bobby and JaSin are covered in cheap Chinese 'cladding'.

If that was removed they would be economically non-viable.
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Reply #3 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 1:55pm
 
You really have 'over-done' yourself and become a bore with your repetitive posts.  Roll Eyes

You obviously lack originality.
Even worse if you claim aboriginality.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #4 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 1:57pm
 
Jasin wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 1:55pm:
You really have 'over-done' yourself and become a bore with your repetitive posts.  Roll Eyes

You obviously lack originality.
Even worse if you claim aboriginality.



LTYC must be at least tinted.
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Reply #5 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:15pm
 
Jasin and Bobby are burning up with apoplexy as they invent and inflame trivia into smoldering nonsense.
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Reply #6 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:16pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:15pm:
Jasin and Bobby are burning up with apoplexy as they invent and inflame trivia into smoldering nonsense.



Was it illegal, cheap Chinese cladding again like at the Grenfell Tower?
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Reply #7 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:16pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:15pm:
Jasin and Bobby are burning up with apoplexy as they invent and inflame trivia into smoldering nonsense.



Was it illegal, cheap Chinese cladding again like at the Grenfell Tower?


Capitalists profit from the death of the proletariat.
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Reply #8 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:20pm
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68378968

Did cladding enable the fire to spread?


Experts have suggested that cladding on the outside of the building could have been a factor in enabling the fire to spread rapidly.

Cladding is added to the facade of modern buildings to keep the weather at bay. Behind the panels there is usually an air space to help insulation and prevent damp.

Esther Puchades, vice president of the College of Industrial Technical Engineers of Valencia, told Spanish news agency Efe she had previously inspected the building.

She said its exterior featured a polyurethane material, which is no longer in wide use because of fears over flammability. It also has an aluminium covering.

"The reason the [building] burned so fast is because of this type of cladding," she told Spanish media.



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The cladding has been described by experts as effective for heat insulation but the ventilation, or gap, between it and the covering means it can be highly flammable.

Luis Sendra, of Valencia's architects' association, said this can cause a "chimney effect", allowing fires to spread more quickly.

The specific type of cladding on the buildings in Valencia is still unclear, and some types of cladding are more flammable than others.

A 2007 promotional video by the building's developer mentioned the "innovative material" used to clad the building's exterior, which passed "rigorous quality checks".

The issue of flammable cladding gained prominence in the UK after the 2017 Grenfell Tower disaster, in which 72 people died when a tower block in west London caught fire.
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Reply #9 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:21pm
 
"Although the aluminium-covered panels were not considered combustible"


Probably weren't tested first for combustibility



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Reply #10 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:23pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:21pm:
"Although the aluminium-covered panels were not considered combustible"


Probably weren't tested first for combustibility






Someone needs to hang for this.    Angry
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Reply #11 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:21pm:
"Although the aluminium-covered panels were not considered combustible"


Probably weren't tested first for combustibility





Someone needs to hang for this.    Angry


Resurrect Jesus and crucify him for the sins of others.

Punish the architects for not designing these buildings to collapse like the 9/11 towers which didn't have any Chinese cladding.

Who started the F**KING  fire?
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Reply #12 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:31pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:29pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:23pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:21pm:
"Although the aluminium-covered panels were not considered combustible"


Probably weren't tested first for combustibility





Someone needs to hang for this.    Angry


Resurrect Jesus and crucify him for the sins of others.

Punish the architects for not designing these buildings to collapse like the 9/11 towers which didn't have any Chinese cladding.

Who started the F**KING  fire?



Read my Reply #8.

It was possibly illegal construction with illegal materials.

It was a death trap.
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Reply #13 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:34pm
 
Life is a death trap.
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Reply #14 - Feb 24th, 2024 at 3:07pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 24th, 2024 at 2:34pm:
Life is a death trap.



Look at the Grenfell tower disaster:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire


7 years have passed -
no one has gone to jail - no one has been hanged.



On 14 June 2017, a high-rise fire broke out in the 24-storey Grenfell Tower block of flats in North Kensington, West London, at 00:54 BST and burned for 60 hours. Seventy people died at the scene, and two people died later in hospital, with more than 70 injured and 223 escaping. It was the deadliest structural fire in the United Kingdom since the 1988 Piper Alpha oil-platform disaster and the worst UK residential fire since the German Bombings of World War II.

The fire was started by an electrical fault in a refrigerator on the fourth floor.[note 1] This spread rapidly up the building's exterior, bringing flames and smoke to all residential floors, accelerated by dangerously combustible aluminium composite cladding and external insulation, with an air gap between them enabling the stack effect.



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