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Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 2:10pm

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in Las Vegas for the biggest fast money suck up that the grubs of NRL can get their hands on.
The laugh is that they couldn't even get televised for nearly the first 20 mins of the game. Grin

Bet their ego's got dented on that.

Americans don't like League and barely even Aussie Rules.
The do like Cricket though, as its statistically/specialised much like Gridiron.

NRL have done the odd USA Promo stint and its always a choke failure like Jarrod Hayne and AFL only gets as much interest as a NFL kicker. Grin

Note: I for one wouldn't have sent two 'top tier' sides for starters. I would have sent the bottom two teams from last year - they would have put on a better match for the Vegans.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/overtime-in-college-basketball-ruins-nr...

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47293 Gender:	Re: NRL Vegas Reply #1 - Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 2:17pm So Hugh 'Manly' Jackman and Russell 'Souths' Crowe both 'choked' on appearing for the match. Well that sums up Rugby League right there for you. A very 'unreliable' sport.
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Reply #3 - Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 11:46pm

I watched the highlights of the games. Given that the crowd did not give much enthusiasm for the games, I doubt that this venture of playing in Las Vegas will go much further than the 5 year deal. The superbowl had just been played. With this in mind, had the NRL games been played a month later, I would bet that the attendance numbers would have been about half that. Rugby league is not going to compete with gridiron. The Americans have their rugby union and rugby league teams. I have watched the international games of the United States. If they want to compete internationally, they will have to get the fan support. Otherwise, this NRL competition will attract only a few in the audience.

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Reply #4 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 10:04am

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 11:46pm:

I watched the highlights of the games. Given that the crowd did not give much enthusiasm for the games, I doubt that this venture of playing in Las Vegas will go much further than the 5 year deal. The superbowl had just been played. With this in mind, had the NRL games been played a month later, I would bet that the attendance numbers would have been about half that. Rugby league is not going to compete with gridiron. The Americans have their rugby union and rugby league teams. I have watched the international games of the United States. If they want to compete internationally, they will have to get the fan support. Otherwise, this NRL competition will attract only a few in the audience.

Looks like the US media do not agree with you.

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Over 40,000 fans attended the first premiership matches in the U.S. for Australia's National Rugby League this weekend in Las Vegas, “a dazzling result for the NRL.” With the two “outstanding games living up to the unprecedented hype that surrounded the event,” Australian Rugby League Commission Chair Peter V’Landys said he is “doubtful he could have scripted it any better” (London GUARDIAN, 3/3). In Australia, Nick Campton writes it was difficult to see the first two matches of the NRL’s first trip to America as “anything other than a success, at least.”

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/03/03/nrl-las-vegas-debut

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47293 Gender:	Re: NRL Vegas Reply #5 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 10:44am For Redneck League - any crowd over 10,000 is a miracle. Panthers night clubs at the Leagues Club of 'entertainment', get more through the doors than they do at the footy gates.
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Reply #6 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 11:53am

Jasin wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 10:44am:

For Redneck League - any crowd over 10,000 is a miracle.

Panthers night clubs at the Leagues Club of 'entertainment', get more through the doors than they do at the footy gates.

Yes these super clubs have a thousand poker machines which they use to exploit the vulnerable in their community and their friends. It has nothing to do with entertainment, they are parasitic organisms that suck the blood out of their communities.

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philperth2010 Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19979 Perth Gender:	Re: NRL Vegas Reply #7 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:05pm Looks like overall it was a success....Americans like their violence and hard hits so NRL is a good product for their market....Go the Dragons!!!
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Reply #8 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:08pm

Traditionally in Sydney.
St George was lucky to get 20,000 at its football.

Reason being is that Sydney gets the 'crowds' at Entertainment Venues from Opera House to a Leagues Club and all the other 'MUSIC' clubs in between.

Melbourne cot its crowds at its Sport, but their entertainment venues were somewhat 'lame' in comparison.

Panthers Leagues said to the likes of Alexander, Izzard, Simmons, Geyer, etc - "Look! We don't work for you, you work for us and we pay you to win. So get off the coke and win!" They won their first Grand Final as the Chocolate Soldiers.

NRL or League was traditionally famous for its Kangaroo Tests against Great Britain, where even Melbournians would stay up to the wee hours to watch the game.
AFL is the premier 'club level' or 'suburb-level' code of sport in Australia.
Cricket being dominant at State Level (which leaves League and AFL State of origin behind).

The only 'success' League would have in USA is if they played a nice soft Test match as Kangaroos V USA Eagles or something... and a bit of biff!

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47293 Gender:	Re: NRL Vegas Reply #9 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:11pm philperth2010 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:05pm: Looks like overall it was a success....Americans like their violence and hard hits so NRL is a good product for their market....Go the Dragons!!! With any luck we can piss Redneck League and GayFL off to America where it belongs!
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Reply #10 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 4:12pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 10:04am:

Looks like the US media do not agree with you.

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Over 40,000 fans attended the first premiership matches in the U.S. for Australia's National Rugby League this weekend in Las Vegas, “a dazzling result for the NRL.”
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/03/03/nrl-las-vegas-debut

Over 40,000 fans! Are we sure that it was 40,000 fans or 40,000 spectators. Given that Allegiant Stadium has a capacity of 65,000, the other 25,000 must have been either empty chairs or whoever showed up to the game to see what the fuss was about.

I would expect 40,000 fans to show up for a local derby clash in Sydney's Accor Stadium. That is with 5 million Sydneysiders withing a 100km radius of the stadium. Las Vegas with 2 million residents, could not fill 2/3rds of its state of the art stadium for a couple of games of touring international sides. THAT is how little Americans give a damn about rugby league....

Oh, and the Americans seem to refer to rugby league as "major league rugby".

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24395 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: NRL Vegas Reply #11 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 4:41pm Well, I guess no "welcome to country" was one positive of the games being hosted there.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47293 Gender:	Re: NRL Vegas Reply #12 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:14pm UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 4:41pm: Well, I guess no "welcome to country" was one positive of the games being hosted there. Yes. The Comanches and Apaches wouldn't have been happy about that.
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Reply #13 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 9:17pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 4:12pm:

Dnarever wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 10:04am:

Looks like the US media do not agree with you.

Quote:

Over 40,000 fans attended the first premiership matches in the U.S. for Australia's National Rugby League this weekend in Las Vegas, “a dazzling result for the NRL.”
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/03/03/nrl-las-vegas-debut

Over 40,000 fans! Are we sure that it was 40,000 fans or 40,000 spectators. Given that Allegiant Stadium has a capacity of 65,000, the other 25,000 must have been either empty chairs or whoever showed up to the game to see what the fuss was about.

I would expect 40,000 fans to show up for a local derby clash in Sydney's Accor Stadium. That is with 5 million Sydneysiders withing a 100km radius of the stadium. Las Vegas with 2 million residents, could not fill 2/3rds of its state of the art stadium for a couple of games of touring international sides. THAT is how little Americans give a damn about rugby league....

Oh, and the Americans seem to refer to rugby league as "major league rugby".

You really do not think it silly to expect a significantly bigger crowd to turn up than you could get in Australia for the countries premium sport ?

For some context:

The US played Canada in a soccer game there in front of 35,000 spectators ?

Metallica, Guns and Roses, Billy Joel, Rolling Stones - between 35,000 and 44,000

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Re: NRL Vegas
Reply #14 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 4:11pm

Dnarever wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 9:17pm:

You really do not think it silly to expect a significantly bigger crowd to turn up than you could get in Australia for the countries premium sport ?

For some context:

The US played Canada in a soccer game there in front of 35,000 spectators ?

Metallica, Guns and Roses, Billy Joel, Rolling Stones - between 35,000 and 44,000

I think it is very silly to expect Americans to embrace NRL games being played as a once-a-year thing in Las Vegas. Who knows? Maybe I am being a bit too hasty. We should judge the merits of the crowd attendance by what happens next year.

Meanwhile, the lack of crowd enthusiasm, other than those actual rugby league fans that came over to watch the games, was noteworthy. Unless people were really that entertained by the games, I figure word of mouth will not get the locals to come out next year.

By the way, if Metallica, Guns and Roses, Billy Joel, and the Rolling Stones could only attract a crowd of 35,000, then they really have no considerable fan support anymore. They can fit 96,000 Swifties in a stadium that is designed to seat up to 100,000. But only 35,000 for a stadium designed to seat 65,000.

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