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Re: foundations
Reply #150 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 7:58pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 4:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Bobby is proving too much of a Conspiranut for even Freediver to stomach. Poor, poor, Bobby, you know you can get help for your condition? Real help. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Hi Brian,
see any yawning symbols lately?

I see a sniveling little coward who believes in Conspiracies, Bobby. Guess who? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bobby is a lot more fun, entertaining, engaging and doesn't hide behind Troll posts repetitiously like a coward or doesn't go silent because he can't admit he's been proven wrong.
The only Forum coward between you two - is you fool.
...and your gay moustache. Grin

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Re: foundations
Reply #152 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:32pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 7:58pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 4:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 3:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Bobby is proving too much of a Conspiranut for even Freediver to stomach. Poor, poor, Bobby, you know you can get help for your condition? Real help. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Hi Brian,
see any yawning symbols lately?

I see a sniveling little coward who believes in Conspiracies, Bobby. Guess who? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bobby is a lot more fun, entertaining, engaging and doesn't hide behind Troll posts repetitiously like a coward or doesn't go silent because he can't admit he's been proven wrong.
The only Forum coward between you two - is you fool.
...and your gay moustache. Grin

Thanks JaSin,

Brian is unwell -

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Re: foundations
Reply #153 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

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Got it....

Can you give an example?

Religious Zionists with their "promised Land" "reality";
and Morrison with his related beliefs re 'anti-christian' China, not shared by eg, Keating or myself - being more interested in reality.

No, you still don't understand.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 83800 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: foundations Reply #154 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:59pm Men are the roots of Heaven ... if all the Men die off Heaven will fall, and all beneath will be crushed and cease to exist... honour your men... and honour their Rights...
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Re: foundations
Reply #155 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 9:01pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 7:49pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

Quote:

Got it....

Can you give an example?

Religious Zionists with their "promised Land" "reality";
and Morrison with his related beliefs re 'anti-christian' China, not shared by eg, Keating or myself - being more interested in reality.

Totalitarians with their "societal utopias"?

Keating ... Grin

... hope you don't use that as a reference...

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Reply #156 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 8:16am

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

Quote:

Got it....

Can you give an example?

Religious Zionists with their "promised Land" "reality";
and Morrison with his related beliefs re 'anti-christian' China, not shared by eg, Keating or myself - being more interested in reality.

No, you still don't understand.

Ok..... you know the drill: please explain....

Hint: religious belief is shared by particular groups; YOUR definition of "intersubjective reality."

FD: "It refers to things that become real as a consequence of shared belief in them."

ie nothing to do with reality, but just belief. Your belief in fairy tales doesn't make them real.

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Reply #157 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 8:33am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

Why RELIGIOUS Zionists? Like... errr.. all others are not looking at their Promised Land?

Indeed, rational Jews (Left Wing) - of whom there are a few - are NOT looking for their "Promised Land".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism

Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism.[a] Although anti-Zionism is a heterogeneous phenomenon, all its proponents agree that the creation of the modern State of Israel, and the movement to create a sovereign Jewish state in the region of Palestine—a region partly coinciding with the biblical Land of Israel—was flawed or unjust in some way.[7]

Until World War II, anti-Zionism was widespread among Jews for varying reasons.[citation needed] Orthodox Jews opposed Zionism on religious grounds, as preempting the Messiah, while [b]secular Jewish anti-Zionists identified more with ideals of the Enlightenment and saw Zionism as a reactionary ideology.

God bless Enlightened Jews......

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God promised that to Moses, long ago.. Mose never made it but the others did... many anyway... but it was always The Promised Land......

The fact "God's promise" was a fairy tale doesn't worry you?

Oh dear...we have a problem: Griffith's 'human pyschosis' rears its head...

Quote:

During this latest fighting I can feel my 10% Jewish calling me to Yom Israel.... I have no religion... it's in the blood....

Yep, a psychosis perfectly described by Griffith: instinct struggling with reason.

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Re: foundations
Reply #158 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:01am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 8:16am:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

Quote:

Got it....

Can you give an example?

Religious Zionists with their "promised Land" "reality";
and Morrison with his related beliefs re 'anti-christian' China, not shared by eg, Keating or myself - being more interested in reality.

No, you still don't understand.

Ok..... you know the drill: please explain....

Hint: religious belief is shared by particular groups; YOUR definition of "intersubjective reality."

FD: "It refers to things that become real as a consequence of shared belief in them."

ie nothing to do with reality, but just belief. Your belief in fairy tales doesn't make them real.

The value we attach to money is an intersubjective reality.

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Reply #159 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:07am

dividie is an anachronism struggling to find relevance in the modern age... quite probably senile and struggling with inputs on a daily basis and clinging to his ideology like a life raft...

Pay him no mind... Keating's glory was in one or two witticisms - his politics and his policies were and remain disastrous for the many - and deliberately so.... he's a sellout of the Labour movement, for thirty pieces of silver... and like all 'elder statespersons' of all ilks - has nothing to offer the ordinary folk - who don't matter anyway being cattle in the fields.... no elitism intended.... just clear and present with every utterance....

Amazing - simply amazing... and living proof of the need for Australia to divest itself of the dead weight of the two major party groups.

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Re: foundations
Reply #160 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:08am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 8:33am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

Why RELIGIOUS Zionists? Like... errr.. all others are not looking at their Promised Land?

Indeed, rational Jews (Left Wing) - of whom there are a few - are NOT looking for their "Promised Land".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism

Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism.[a] Although anti-Zionism is a heterogeneous phenomenon, all its proponents agree that the creation of the modern State of Israel, and the movement to create a sovereign Jewish state in the region of Palestine—a region partly coinciding with the biblical Land of Israel—was flawed or unjust in some way.[7]

Until World War II, anti-Zionism was widespread among Jews for varying reasons.[citation needed] Orthodox Jews opposed Zionism on religious grounds, as preempting the Messiah, while [b]secular Jewish anti-Zionists identified more with ideals of the Enlightenment and saw Zionism as a reactionary ideology.

God bless Enlightened Jews......

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God promised that to Moses, long ago.. Mose never made it but the others did... many anyway... but it was always The Promised Land......

The fact "God's promise" was a fairy tale doesn't worry you?

Oh dear...we have a problem: Griffith's 'human pyschosis' rears its head...

Quote:

During this latest fighting I can feel my 10% Jewish calling me to Yom Israel.... I have no religion... it's in the blood....

Yep, a psychosis perfectly described by Griffith: instinct struggling with reason.

But they've GOT their Promised Land...... hello? So now all your 'rational Jews' are folding their tents and are preparing to leave Israel, either figuratively or physically... my son - you are a true genius!!!

And you KNOW I do not adhere to any religious views... just offering you the official line... you know... the Promised Land Policy ... sort of an old Semitic version of Aboriginal Colonialism - this is my /our country because we saw it from a hill over there, claimed it, and killed those who lived here and fought off all others who wandered up that hill and claimed it....

Funny how you subscribe to one form of colonialism but reject another based purely on race... must be one of them psychoses, eh?

How many 'rational Aboriginals' do you know who reject Abozionism... the Holy Snake Land Policy... their Promised Land.... their Chosen People with a special connection etc?

You Wharte Men have funny ways of looking at things...

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Reply #161 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:15am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:08am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 8:33am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

Why RELIGIOUS Zionists? Like... errr.. all others are not looking at their Promised Land?

Indeed, rational Jews (Left Wing) - of whom there are a few - are NOT looking for their "Promised Land".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism

Anti-Zionism is opposition to Zionism.[a] Although anti-Zionism is a heterogeneous phenomenon, all its proponents agree that the creation of the modern State of Israel, and the movement to create a sovereign Jewish state in the region of Palestine—a region partly coinciding with the biblical Land of Israel—was flawed or unjust in some way.[7]

Until World War II, anti-Zionism was widespread among Jews for varying reasons.[citation needed] Orthodox Jews opposed Zionism on religious grounds, as preempting the Messiah, while [b]secular Jewish anti-Zionists identified more with ideals of the Enlightenment and saw Zionism as a reactionary ideology.

God bless Enlightened Jews......

Quote:

God promised that to Moses, long ago.. Mose never made it but the others did... many anyway... but it was always The Promised Land......

The fact "God's promise" was a fairy tale doesn't worry you?

Oh dear...we have a problem: Griffith's 'human pyschosis' rears its head...

Quote:

During this latest fighting I can feel my 10% Jewish calling me to Yom Israel.... I have no religion... it's in the blood....

Yep, a psychosis perfectly described by Griffith: instinct struggling with reason.

But they've GOT their Promised Land...... hello?

.and the genocide authourized by "God" continues....

Carry on...

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Re: foundations
Reply #162 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:18am

freediver wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:01am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 8:16am:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

Quote:

Got it....

Can you give an example?

Religious Zionists with their "promised Land" "reality";
and Morrison with his related beliefs re 'anti-christian' China, not shared by eg, Keating or myself - being more interested in reality.

No, you still don't understand.

Ok..... you know the drill: please explain....

Hint: religious belief is shared by particular groups; YOUR definition of "intersubjective reality."

FD: "It refers to things that become real as a consequence of shared belief in them."

ie nothing to do with reality, but just belief. Your belief in fairy tales doesn't make them real.

The value we attach to money is an intersubjective reality.

Another fantasy....money is created out of thin air, the value you assign to it is very confused.

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Reply #163 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:19am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:18am:

freediver wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:01am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 8:16am:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

Quote:

Got it....

Can you give an example?

Religious Zionists with their "promised Land" "reality";
and Morrison with his related beliefs re 'anti-christian' China, not shared by eg, Keating or myself - being more interested in reality.

No, you still don't understand.

Ok..... you know the drill: please explain....

Hint: religious belief is shared by particular groups; YOUR definition of "intersubjective reality."

FD: "It refers to things that become real as a consequence of shared belief in them."

ie nothing to do with reality, but just belief. Your belief in fairy tales doesn't make them real.

The value we attach to money is an intersubjective reality.

Another fantasy....money is created out of thin air, the value you assign to it is very confused.

So human rights are an "illusion" in the same sense that money, laws, national borders etc are an illusion?

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Re: foundations
Reply #164 - Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:26am

freediver wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:19am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:18am:

freediver wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 9:01am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 8:16am:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:47pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 6:11pm:

Quote:

Got it....

Can you give an example?

Religious Zionists with their "promised Land" "reality";
and Morrison with his related beliefs re 'anti-christian' China, not shared by eg, Keating or myself - being more interested in reality.

No, you still don't understand.

Ok..... you know the drill: please explain....

Hint: religious belief is shared by particular groups; YOUR definition of "intersubjective reality."

FD: "It refers to things that become real as a consequence of shared belief in them."

ie nothing to do with reality, but just belief. Your belief in fairy tales doesn't make them real.

The value we attach to money is an intersubjective reality.

Another fantasy....money is created out of thin air, the value you assign to it is very confused.

So human rights are an "illusion" in the same sense that money, laws, national borders etc are an illusion?

dividie prefers the illusions of his theories... they are, after all, the only things hshe's got... clearly a product of both the modern education system and the outworn theories of some mythical past... doesn't understand that all those outworn theories are fantasy ... and is clearly pushing for getting rid of cash so the despotism of elected government can cash in onthe control that offers the state.

Beware the Inner Fascist in the Ideologue..... stick with me, kids, if you want to live.

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