buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 3:10pm:


What rot. Typical of the tripe you post.

Gnads wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 8:11pm:

And have they succeeded?

Western values with its liberal democratic traditions are the envy of the world.

Those who would want to disrupt it are misfits even in their own culture.

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 5^th, 2024 at 3:10pm:

I'd have to disagree with this claim.

In any first world country, white woman have more rights than their
male peers.

Prostate cancer is the most common cancer in Australia; in 2022
24,000 Australians were diagnosed with prostate cancer.  In the same
year, 20,000 women were diagnosed with breast cancer.

In the US, The Congressionally Mandated Medical Research Programs
spent $150 million for breast cancer and $110 million for prostate cancer
in 2021.  This despite prostate cancer killing more men than breast cancer
kills women.

     Note the disparity in favour of women.      

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 9:32am:

You are confusing things once again. Freedom of expression is not the same as large scale freedom of movement of illiberal and intolerant and anti-free expression populations into Western democracies.

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 7^th, 2024 at 8:41am:


Men are the roots and pillars of heaven - if all men die out, heaven will fall, crushing all beneath it... men designed and built EVERY construct, physical and social, within which modern civilised society flourishes - or at the very least staggers along under it current loads of ne'er-do-anything but complains -

There are countless disparities in favour of women .....even going back to the industrial days they were a protected species living at home while men sucked in the particle laden miasma and died early as a result....  now the 'better class educated' women imagine that 'equality' or 'equity' means getting all the same jobs - but they only want the very best ones.... and as many of those as they can get their Fascist hands on.... and preferably the ones with 'power' in and over society in one way or another - whether it be political, social, economic or outright centralised despotism (their favoured approach to civilisation).

The mistake men made was in assuming that self-sacrifice and loyalty would bring a fair reward..... but they forgot two things - the old maxim that you must know your enemy more than in the bliblical sense ..... and there are Monsters From the Id nowhere more apparent than inside any angry and entitled™ woman - and is there anything more than a tiny minority of those who are not?

I look at the mostly women old girl's art group - perhaps one or two are not of the massively entitled™ kind.... few are worthy of more than a passing glance... be a woman!  Stop whining and act like a woman... capisce?

Now half the boys want to be women... Jesus....

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:09am:



The tablet issuing government of Mezopotamia!! 


ANyway, you are confusing value (of a cow, of wheat) with money which is a symbol of value.
Money does not represent a cow or wheat. Money represents value. The cow and the wheat have some value but they are NOT value, they are cow and heat.

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:18am:


Yeh, little clay tablets with cuneiform symbols engraved on them representing cows or bushells of grain), the beginning of writing: "merchants, not poets, invented writing")

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No, I explicitly explained the difference: the former is real wealth, the latter a symbol/measurement of value;   a symbol - whether referring to its name (eg dollar) or its function (to facilate exchange) created out of thin air. eg a dollar ...worthless except for its exchange value.

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Money serves as the exchange value of cows and wheat.

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That's what I just said. 

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cor blimey, you do lose the plot: you are now saying they have "some" value (nominated in money),  but they are not value (nominated in money), they are 'only' themselves.  Yet cows have value, while money is created out of thin air.

Where do you think the value lays? 

You'll be a tough nut to crack, re free money created out of thin air and issued by a currency-issuing government...eg, to buy some wheat to subsidize the poor.   

Moral, you say?  What's 'moral' about Der Schtaat demanding total control over every facet of every individual's life?

Note that thus far in your monologue there is no hint of the People surrendering their personal sovereignty to an overbearing state .... now get ye hence and get out there and resolve all these problems you see - on the ground.... force your Aborigines to go to a job  they do not want.  You are wasting everyone's time - not least your own - trolling here.

Lessee now - $150m to build a 'business' for the Ayers Rock Aborigines (whoever they are considering it's somehow supposed to be sacred to the bloody lot) - now they want to sell it to cash in so they can hold a big party..... now that was a brilliant move.... should've put 'em to rounding up aqua's cattle.... more benefits including a bit of exercise of something other than their whinge muscles...  can't make a big profit here, baas, without a casino!  So now you gib 'im us - we wan' sell 'im fo' mo' than you give us - cash 'im in, you know.

Now you know what HAS happened and will continue to happen every time some stupid government hands them a golden handshake of the most desirable land etc in the nation .... they'll just want to cash in on it later and still keep control over it.... secred site.....

Same will happen if we follow the Grappler Scheme and give them freehold a package of land so they don't continually grasp for 'native title' which means they own nothing but imagine they do but still can't build on it etc.  We give 'em a good package per family and soon it will all be in someone else's hands... and they'll want more... sorry, Jackie-Jackie - sunset clause... you get one package of freehold - you wreck it - you're on the dole alone for life unless you get a job...

Total load of bullshit - now go out there and force them to work... and stop raving for five minutes, will you?  Be a man ...