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Re: foundations
Reply #345 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:10pm

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

So only money can be money, then?

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Re: foundations
Reply #346 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:15pm

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

Can rum be money?

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Reply #347 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:17pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:15pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

Can rum be money?

Salt?

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Re: foundations
Reply #348 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:21pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:15pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

Can rum be money?

Salt?

Diamonds? Rubies? Emeralds? Pearls?

Tulip bulbs?

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Reply #349 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:24pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:00pm:

So you ARE a Hungarian.

I refer to the greatest hyperinflation in world history, unlikely ever to be exceeded, and I'm Hungarian, now?

Are you Zimbabwean?

Yes, you are a Hungarian. Everyone knows about Zimbabwe and Weimar Germany. Their hyperinflations are the cliches of hyperinflations. Only a Hungarian would know about their hyperinflations being even worse but amounting, still, to nothing.

Denmark never had hyperinflation. Nor England, Norway, Sweden. Hungary caught the German disease, being pseudo-Germans. Hungarians have all the chauvinism of the Germans without their work ethic.

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Reply #350 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:25pm

A significant amount of evidence establishes that many things were traded in ancient markets that could be described as a medium of exchange. These included livestock and grain – things directly useful in themselves – but also merely attractive items such as cowrie shells or beads which were exchanged for more useful commodities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_money

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Reply #351 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:27pm

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:00pm:

So you ARE a Hungarian.

I refer to the greatest hyperinflation in world history, unlikely ever to be exceeded, and I'm Hungarian, now?

Are you Zimbabwean?

Yes, you are a Hungarian. Everyone knows about Zimbabwe and Weimar Germany. Their hyperinflations are the cliches of hyperinflations. Only a Hungarian would know about their hyperinflations being even worse but amounting, still, to nothing.

Oh really??!!

How does that explain the worldwide value of the Hungarian 100 Quintillion pengo note regularly being sold for over USD1000?

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Reply #352 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 8:15pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

A significant amount of evidence establishes that many things were traded in ancient markets that could be described as a medium of exchange. These included livestock and grain – things directly useful in themselves – but also merely attractive items such as cowrie shells or beads which were exchanged for more useful commodities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_money

Could be described.

Is there ANYTHING that could NOT be be described as...

A man today can be described as a woman. He will use you if you descri be him as a man.

Wikipedia?? Really? I

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Reply #353 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 8:17pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:27pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:00pm:

So you ARE a Hungarian.

I refer to the greatest hyperinflation in world history, unlikely ever to be exceeded, and I'm Hungarian, now?

Are you Zimbabwean?

Yes, you are a Hungarian. Everyone knows about Zimbabwe and Weimar Germany. Their hyperinflations are the cliches of hyperinflations. Only a Hungarian would know about their hyperinflations being even worse but amounting, still, to nothing.

Oh really??!!

How does that explain the worldwide value of the Hungarian 100 Quintillion pengo note regularly being sold for over USD1000?

You are still a Hungarian.

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Re: foundations
Reply #355 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:10pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

So only money can be money, then?

You sure do like your circular reasoning.

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Reply #356 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:26pm

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:10pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

So only money can be money, then?

You sure do like your circular reasoning.

That's my summary of your logic.

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Reply #357 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:39pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:10pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

So only money can be money, then?

You sure do like your circular reasoning.

That's my summary of your logic.

How did the Maasai store physical records of debts for sub-cow transactions?

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Reply #358 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:40pm

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:10pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

So only money can be money, then?

You sure do like your circular reasoning.

That's my summary of your logic.

How did the Maasai store physical records of debts for sub-cow transactions?

Can rum be money?

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Reply #359 - Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:41pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:40pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:39pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 9:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 7:10pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:39pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 8^th, 2024 at 6:35pm:

Meister is this a fair summary of your arguments on Maasai money?

Cows were money. We know they were money because they were money. But you couldn't actually buy anything with them because of their immense value. So the Maasai invented a system of debts, which became due when they reached a cow. They were nomadic people so they carried the paperwork around with them.

Baskets were not money. We know they were not money because they were not money. But they were much more convenient as a medium of exchange than cows. Because they were not money, we call this bartering.

Because baskets were used in bartering they were not money. But because cows were used to buy things with, they were money. Even though you couldn't buy anything with them. Unless you got kidnapped and your cows wanted to buy you back. The Maasai occasionally wandered into the neighbours paddock and the cows had to go and buy them back. With themselves.

Are you Frank's twin brother?

Is this a fair summary of your arguments on money?

Only money can be money.

Not just me and Frank. I challenge you to find a single person who does not think you are being a bit silly here.

So only money can be money, then?

You sure do like your circular reasoning.

That's my summary of your logic.

How did the Maasai store physical records of debts for sub-cow transactions?

Can rum be money?

Because of its immense value?

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