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Reply #75 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 11:51am:

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 11:47am:

p 104

It only goes to page 92.

Like Albo's one page voice - where are the missing 26 pages? The ones that start at page 87 ..........

Hmm - 'gender pay gap' you say? The one where men are behind 7-10% per hour actually worked - a REAL wage gap ... and are being steadily excluded from all the good jobs and forced more and more onto part-time casual to make up this alleged gap 'against' women'? .... As opposed to taking the health service down the road and translating a four hour shift for men doctors and women doctors into an annual salary and saying the men are paid more.... as in WTF?

It should be rightly called 'The Methodology Gap"....

Now you're talking - I take it the ABC is going to reveal the Truth for a change.... surprise me .............

Foundations based on reality..... not ideology .... you disappoint me, freediver.... perhaps you should just yield to the gap in Aboriginal land ownership by ceding Mt Warning to them .... only fair, innit... and Mummy said so and Teachie at pre- and primary school says so in between gender classes....

You get my message? We are THAT close to going out forever, freediver...... the disposal factories are burning men day and night.... but there remains ONE man to teach you to unite and to fight the party machines.... his name is Grappler, Australia - your son! And he gave the time traveler a message to pass on to you.... - he said :- "Tell her she must be stronger than she ever imagined herself capable of being - the future of mankind depends on it!"

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: foundations Reply #76 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:27pm Bobby were you living in a cave during the children over board scandal?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103117 Melbourne Gender:	Re: foundations Reply #77 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:32pm freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:27pm: Bobby were you living in a cave during the children over board scandal? No - Howard lied about chucking kids overboard to win the election.
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Re: foundations
Reply #78 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:33pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 11:51am:

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 11:47am:

p 104

It only goes to page 92.

Like Albo's one page voice - where are the missing 26 pages? The ones that start at page 87 ..........

Maybe Frank can explain why he can see it and we can't?

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Re: foundations
Reply #79 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:33pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 11:51am:

Frank wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 11:47am:

p 104

It only goes to page 92.

Like Albo's one page voice - where are the missing 26 pages? The ones that start at page 87 ..........

Maybe Frank can explain why he can see it and we can't?

... walls within walls... circles within circles .... Geoffrey Robinson got it when he said that government when disturbed is like an octopus disturbed - it lashes out in all directions and has no heed for who and what it damages....

Do you seriously believe they cannot alter the flight logs when it suits? They hold the keys to all documentation - why do you think - in that Lawfare section - I post all links for posterity? If you don't - they will all disappear into 404 - page not found... and some probably have already.... anything too revealing will cop the gulag door slammed in your face when you inquire about it.... How The West Was Ruined......

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Re: foundations
Reply #80 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:51pm

More -

Dan Tehan
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Dan Tehan - Shadow Immigration Minister (3/3/2024)
"1.6 million coming here over 4 years is too many."

https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2405C005S00

Transcript of a small part:

28:40
Question-
What should Australia's migration intake be?

well - I can tell you what it shouldn't be -
it shouldn't be as high as what it is today.

what should it be?

Well obviously we've gotta wait and see and we will announce that
in the lead up to the next election.
we've gotta wait and see what it is under this Government
and then we can work out OK what we need to do -
but I can tell you what's too high -
1.6 million people coming into this country over 4 years -
to give your viewers an idea of that -
that is the population of the city of Adelaide.
when we have a housing crisis -
when we have a rental crisis -
when people can't get in to see a doctor -
when we're seeing cuts in our infrastructure -
so the roads aren't being built to deal with that population -
that is too high -
I went to the press club not long after the last election
and said that what we need is a proper plan when it comes to immigration
and set out what that should look like.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: foundations Reply #81 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 1:35pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:32pm: freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:27pm: Bobby were you living in a cave during the children over board scandal? No - Howard lied about chucking kids overboard to win the election. Do you think that immigration might have been a major issue at that election?
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Reply #82 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 1:37pm

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 1:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:32pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 12:27pm:

Bobby were you living in a cave during the children over board scandal?

No - Howard lied about chucking kids overboard to win the election.

Do you think that immigration might have been a major issue at that election?

Yes it was but - illegal immigration - boat people.

See my post above -
immigration got mentioned again but only AFTER the by-election at Dunkley. Wink

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Reply #83 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 1:45pm

Immigration will always be an easy target for politicians to leverage against their opposition.

The obvious reason is instinctive human suspicion of the other.

The next reason is the assimilation issues that invariably arise among post-1st generation immigrants who are forced to take on the challenges of having a foot in both culture-camps that can often spill over into antisocial and/'or criminal behaviour.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: foundations Reply #84 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 1:54pm Have you considered the possibility that not everyone agrees with you?
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Re: foundations
Reply #85 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 1:57pm

freediver wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 2:53pm:

The Foundations of Modern Civilisation

Power
Wealth
Liberty

Universal Education
Women’s Rights
Freedom of the Press
Constraint of Monopoly
Economic Rights

Human Rights
Rejection of Slavery
Rejection of Corruption

Democracy
Equality Before the Law

And you laud the State of Israel about what an exemplar it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grin

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Reply #86 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 2:08pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 1:45pm:

Immigration will always be an easy target for politicians to leverage against their opposition.

The obvious reason is instinctive human suspicion of the other.

The next reason is the assimilation issues that invariably arise among post-1st generation immigrants who are forced to take on the challenges of having a foot in both culture-camps that can often spill over into antisocial and/'or criminal behaviour.

Ah... so it is about other cultures, not merely 'others', and the detrimental social effects of the tension between cultures.
Every other person is... well.. an 'other', so it is not about just any old movement of people.

And it is an 'easy' target' only in the sense that it is is an obvious and protracted problem.

It is only white Western populations that are expected to accommodate the entire world and all its cultures. There is no expectation of, say, Muslim Arabs accommodating Jews, Christians, Africans, Chinese, Hindus, Sikhs, Animists, Atheist and apostates (or even Palestinian Muslims) from every corner of the globe and give them the freedom not only to live their own way but actively resist assimilatiion to Muslim Arab culture and social norms..

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12490 Gender:	Re: foundations Reply #87 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 2:10pm freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 11:30am: Quote: Oh no....the dreaded "intersubjective reality" delusion rears its head again. Why do you dread it? Do you understand the concept? Didn't you read my post?
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Re: foundations
Reply #88 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 2:10pm

freediver wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2024 at 2:53pm:

The Foundations of Modern Civilisation

Power
Wealth
Liberty

Universal Education
Women’s Rights
Freedom of the Press
Constraint of Monopoly
Economic Rights

Human Rights
Rejection of Slavery
Rejection of Corruption

Democracy
Equality Before the Law

Good reasons why the West may never win another war in the 3rd-world.

Maybe the West should do what the Romans did, given the West leads the world as the Romans once did - build 'Harian's Walls' instead of war.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12490 Gender:	Re: foundations Reply #89 - Mar 4^th, 2024 at 2:13pm freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2024 at 1:54pm: Have you considered the possibility that not everyone agrees with you? ...despite "intersubjective reality"? It's fun asking questions....
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