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Reply #945 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 7:53pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Let's see if the US can repair a bridge in a year, without a political fight over funding.... while China continues to build infrastructure at a faster rate than blind leading the blind democracies torn apart by self-interest.

As the CCP did with that hospital they built in record time.

Poured the concrete and a week later built the hospital on it. Of course, no sooner were the cameras switched off. the structure began to crumble.

And, of course, it was never used and demolished within 3 months.

Everything in China under the CCP is built cha bu duo,

Common stupidity.

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Reply #947 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:48am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:39pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 11:30am:

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In China under the CCP, it is the CCP that is sovereign.

The CCP is the government; sovereignty of the Chinese nation is protected by the government, same as in Oz.

The CCP claims sovereignty, not merely being the government.

It is the reason the CCP claims other political parties cannot exist - their existence alone would be directly challenging the CCP's sovereign status.

Wrong. In a communist state, the Constitution is sovereign, and the party adheres to the Constitution.

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Reply #949 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:55am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:39pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 11:30am:

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In China under the CCP, it is the CCP that is sovereign.

The CCP is the government; sovereignty of the Chinese nation is protected by the government, same as in Oz.

The CCP claims sovereignty, not merely being the government.

It is the reason the CCP claims other political parties cannot exist - their existence alone would be directly challenging the CCP's sovereign status.

Wrong. In a communist state, the Constitution is sovereign, and the party adheres to the Constitution.

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Reply #950 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:03am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:39pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 11:30am:

Quote:

In China under the CCP, it is the CCP that is sovereign.

The CCP is the government; sovereignty of the Chinese nation is protected by the government, same as in Oz.

The CCP claims sovereignty, not merely being the government.

It is the reason the CCP claims other political parties cannot exist - their existence alone would be directly challenging the CCP's sovereign status.

Wrong. In a communist state, the Constitution is sovereign, and the party adheres to the Constitution.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Online Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12113 Gender:	Re: foundations Reply #952 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:51am freediver wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:10am: In China, all power emerges from pieces of paper. The CCP is never responsible. You still hung up on "pieces of paper". Implementation of power is defined on "pieces of paper" in any legal system.
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Reply #953 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:56am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:51am:

freediver wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:10am:

In China, all power emerges from pieces of paper. The CCP is never responsible.

You still hung up on "pieces of paper".

Implementation of power is defined on "pieces of paper" in any legal system.

The CCP is in power because a piece of paper says they are in power. Not because they are a bunch of communist thugs who killed tens of millions of Chinese people.

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Reply #954 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 12:13pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:39pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 11:30am:

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In China under the CCP, it is the CCP that is sovereign.

The CCP is the government; sovereignty of the Chinese nation is protected by the government, same as in Oz.

The CCP claims sovereignty, not merely being the government.

It is the reason the CCP claims other political parties cannot exist - their existence alone would be directly challenging the CCP's sovereign status.

Wrong. In a communist state, the Constitution is sovereign, and the party adheres to the Constitution.

Oh really??!! And when the constitution was amended recently to allow Xi to remain indefinitely in power as the murderer-in-chief, how was that amendment effected?

You must have sung the line in the song they force children to sing, "Without the CCP, China is nothing".

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Reply #955 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 12:19pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:51am:

freediver wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:10am:

In China, all power emerges from pieces of paper. The CCP is never responsible.

You still hung up on "pieces of paper".

Implementation of power is defined on "pieces of paper" in any legal system.

CCP legal system - no "pieces of paper", GUARANTEED consensus EVERY TIME:

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Reply #956 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 1:56pm

freediver wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:56am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:51am:

freediver wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:10am:

In China, all power emerges from pieces of paper. The CCP is never responsible.

You still hung up on "pieces of paper".

Implementation of power is defined on "pieces of paper" in any legal system.

The CCP is in power because a piece of paper says they are in power. Not because they are a bunch of communist thugs who killed tens of millions of Chinese people.

Wrong again. The CCP is in power because they fought a civil with capitalist goons, and won.

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Reply #957 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 2:09pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 12:13pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 9:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:39pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 11:30am:

Quote:

In China under the CCP, it is the CCP that is sovereign.

The CCP is the government; sovereignty of the Chinese nation is protected by the government, same as in Oz.

The CCP claims sovereignty, not merely being the government.

It is the reason the CCP claims other political parties cannot exist - their existence alone would be directly challenging the CCP's sovereign status.

Wrong. In a communist state, the Constitution is sovereign, and the party adheres to the Constitution.

Oh really??!! And when the constitution was amended recently to allow Xi to remain indefinitely in power as the murderer-in-chief, how was that amendment effected?

By consensus of the party members.

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You must have sung the line in the song they force children to sing, "Without the CCP, China is nothing".

No, I haven't.

I'm advocating for the spirit of Marxist collectivism, to achieve common prosperity.

How do you intend to avoid locking an entire generation out of home ownership in Oz, as is the current reality?

google

Today China is a country of homeowners with more than 90% of households owning homes (87% in urban and 96% in rural China) (Clark, Huang, & Yi, 2019). At the same time, more than 20% Chinese households own multiple homes, higher than many developed nations (Huang et al., 2020).10 Oct 2020

That last resulting in the Evergrande disaster, based on 'housing as an investment vehicle', which Xi is working to reverse, to save China from a US-style housing ponzi disaster, the cause of the GFC.

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Reply #958 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 2:13pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 7:53pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 3:07pm:

Let's see if the US can repair a bridge in a year, without a political fight over funding.... while China continues to build infrastructure at a faster rate than blind leading the blind democracies torn apart by self-interest.

As the CCP did with that hospital they built in record time.

Correct; a temporary hospital built to cope with the pandemic.

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And, of course, it was never used and demolished within 3 months.

Everything in China under the CCP is built cha bu duo,

Common stupidity.

Your political bias exposed above, and refuted.

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Reply #959 - Apr 1^st, 2024 at 2:15pm

Frank wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 12:19pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:51am:

freediver wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 10:10am:

In China, all power emerges from pieces of paper. The CCP is never responsible.

You still hung up on "pieces of paper".

Implementation of power is defined on "pieces of paper" in any legal system.

CCP legal system - no "pieces of paper", GUARANTEED consensus EVERY TIME:

https://i.imgflip.com/8e5tv7.jpg

??

What has a turtle race in the stone age to do with modern constitutions?

Try again.

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