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New York AG Letitia James is corrupt
Mar 6^th, 2024 at 6:13am

Another One? Trump-Hunter Letitia James Spent Thousands On Luxury Travel And All Sorts Of Other Malarkey

While Georgia Trump prosecutor Fani Willis is embroiled in Fanigate - paying her boyfriend nearly $1 million to help her 'get Trump' while he flew the two of them on (allegedly 'cash' reimbursed) lavish vacations, New York AG Letitia James has been spending tens of thousands of dollars on all sorts of personal benefits, according to a recent analysis of a recent financial disclosure by X user "Mel" (@Villagecrazylady).

The findings are damning. James spent more than $15,000 on luxury hotels in Puerto Rico, $20,000 per year in meals, $7,000 dropped at a NYC nightclub that was billed as an "office," and $84,000 in airfare to fly all over the country.

She also stayed at the Beverly Hills Wilshire, and claimed $65,000 in "reimbursements" to "campaign consultants," which as X user Jim Weed notes, "could literally be anything."

Speaking of campaign consultants, can anyone tell me why a state Attorney General would need to spend over $300,000 in a single year (2023) on campaign consultants when she *just* won re-election the previous November? What could she possibly be consulting on? Furthermore, why do these million-dollar “campaign consultancy firms” always seem to be run out of random 2-bedroom apartments?

To be clear, Ms. James isn’t breaking the law with her expenditures. But considering the high bar she set for Trump in his civil fraud case, it’s more than a little galling that she plays so fast and loose with what she deems to be “legitimate campaign expenses.” -@JimBobW49

James also spent thousands at the '48 Lounge' in NYC as a 'fundraising' expense, a venue which claims to provide a "luxurious and intimate atmosphere."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/another-one-trump-hunter-letitia-james-spent...

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74217 Gender:	Re: New York AG Letitia James is corrupt Reply #1 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 7:28am if only you set the same standards with trump, you'd realise how ridiculous you sound
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Reply #2 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 8:52am

John Smith wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 7:28am:

if only you set the same standards with trump, you'd realise how ridiculous you sound

That would be true if it were true, JS.

Zero Hedge is fake news. The figures are pulled out of thin air, as you do.

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Cunning, no?

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20101 Perth Gender:	Re: New York AG Letitia James is corrupt Reply #3 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 9:06am Even if Letitia James was having an affair and is found to have been corrupt it does not make Donald Trump innocent....Another Prosecutor will be assigned and Trump will still answer for his crimes....Trump has already been found guilty!!!
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Reply #4 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 10:16am

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 9:06am:

Even if Letitia James was having an affair and is found to have been corrupt it does not make Donald Trump innocent....Another Prosecutor will be assigned and Trump will still answer for his crimes....

Trump has already been found guilty!!!

Found Guilty of what crime....in what criminal trial.....by what jury in a criminal trial?

Be advised, under the US Legal system, if you are going to assert it was in a Civil Trial, there is no finding of "guilt" in a civil trial.....Guilt is reserved solely for Criminal Charges, subsequent to a criminal trial.

Civil cases can only establish "liability"......Liability where the burden of proof & validity of presented evidence is far, far lower than required to find a person "guilty" of a Crime in a criminal case/trial.

The jury in a criminal trial must unanimously find the defendant guilty of a "Crime" 'beyond all reasonable doubt.'

So, the question remains, what crime resulted finding Donald Trump "guilty", & of what "crime" was he found guilty?

"Liability" means absolutely nothing when dealing with criminal "Guilt".

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Reply #5 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 10:44am

Panther wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 10:16am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 9:06am:

Even if Letitia James was having an affair and is found to have been corrupt it does not make Donald Trump innocent....Another Prosecutor will be assigned and Trump will still answer for his crimes....

Trump has already been found guilty!!!

Found Guilty of what crime....in what criminal trial.....by what jury in a criminal trial?

Be advised, under the US Legal system, if you are going to assert it was in a Civil Trial, there is no finding of "guilt" in a civil trial.....Guilt is reserved solely for Criminal Charges, subsequent to a criminal trial.

Civil cases can only establish "liability"......Liability where the burden of proof & validity of presented evidence is far, far lower than required to find a person "guilty" of a Crime in a criminal case/trial.

The jury in a criminal trial must unanimously find the defendant guilty 'beyond all reasonable doubt.'

So, the question remains, what crime resulted finding Donald Trump "guilty", & of what "crime" was he found guilty?

"Liability" means absolutely nothing when dealing with criminal "Guilt".

Come come, Panther, two of your DL's employees have been jailed.

Mike, lawyer, got three years for paying off Stormy, porn star - "pay in cash".

Allen, Chief Financial Officer, got three months for fraud.

Both were just obeying orders.

You?

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Reply #6 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:24am

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 10:44am:

Panther wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 10:16am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 9:06am:

Even if Letitia James was having an affair and is found to have been corrupt it does not make Donald Trump innocent....Another Prosecutor will be assigned and Trump will still answer for his crimes....

Trump has already been found guilty!!!

Found Guilty of what crime....in what criminal trial.....by what jury in a criminal trial?

Be advised, under the US Legal system, if you are going to assert it was in a Civil Trial, there is no finding of "guilt" in a civil trial.....Guilt is reserved solely for Criminal Charges, subsequent to a criminal trial.

Civil cases can only establish "liability"......Liability where the burden of proof & validity of presented evidence is far, far lower than required to find a person "guilty" of a Crime in a criminal case/trial.

The jury in a criminal trial must unanimously find the defendant guilty 'beyond all reasonable doubt.'

So, the question remains, what crime resulted finding Donald Trump "guilty", & of what "crime" was he found guilty?

"Liability" means absolutely nothing when dealing with criminal "Guilt".

Come come, Panther, two of your DL's employees have been jailed.

Mike, lawyer, got three years for paying off Stormy, porn star - "pay in cash".

Allen, Chief Financial Officer, got three months for fraud.

Both were just obeying orders.

You?

So, then we're in agreement......that he hasn't been found "guilty" 'beyond all reasonable doubt'....of a "crime" by a unanimous jury verdict, subsequent to a "Criminal Trial", to date...yes?

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Reply #8 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:41am

Donald Trump has been fined for fraud once again....Trump has been ordered to pay close to half a billion dollars in fines all up so far and been banned from doing business in New York for 3 years....The DA is irrelivant to Trump's guilt....No amount of deflection or spin can change these facts!!!

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Judge orders Trump to pay $355 million for lying about his wealth in staggering civil fraud ruling

NEW YORK (AP) — A New York judge ordered Donald Trump on Friday to pay $355 million in penalties, finding that the former president lied about his wealth for years in a sweeping civil fraud verdict that pierces his billionaire image but stops short of putting his real estate empire out of business.

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-civil-fraud-verdict-engoron-244024861f0df886543...

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Reply #9 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:52am

Panther wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:24am:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 10:44am:

Panther wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 10:16am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 9:06am:

Even if Letitia James was having an affair and is found to have been corrupt it does not make Donald Trump innocent....Another Prosecutor will be assigned and Trump will still answer for his crimes....

Trump has already been found guilty!!!

Found Guilty of what crime....in what criminal trial.....by what jury in a criminal trial?

Be advised, under the US Legal system, if you are going to assert it was in a Civil Trial, there is no finding of "guilt" in a civil trial.....Guilt is reserved solely for Criminal Charges, subsequent to a criminal trial.

Civil cases can only establish "liability"......Liability where the burden of proof & validity of presented evidence is far, far lower than required to find a person "guilty" of a Crime in a criminal case/trial.

The jury in a criminal trial must unanimously find the defendant guilty 'beyond all reasonable doubt.'

So, the question remains, what crime resulted finding Donald Trump "guilty", & of what "crime" was he found guilty?

"Liability" means absolutely nothing when dealing with criminal "Guilt".

Come come, Panther, two of your DL's employees have been jailed.

Mike, lawyer, got three years for paying off Stormy, porn star - "pay in cash".

Allen, Chief Financial Officer, got three months for fraud.

Both were just obeying orders.

You?

So, then we're in agreement......that he hasn't been found "guilty" 'beyond all reasonable doubt'....of a "crime" by a unanimous jury verdict, subsequent to a "Criminal Trial", to date...yes?

But of course. Then we agree he ordered Mike and Allen to commit crimes, yes?

And we agree he’ll be in court this month to stand trial for that crime, yes?

And we agree your threshold for wrongdoing is a charge, arrest and/or indictment for a criminal charge as per your beloved rule of law, yes?

And we agree that, once found guilty of a crime beyond any reasonable doubt by a jury of his peers, you will abandon all support, excuses, distraction, evasion, whatabout this, whatabout that, and acknowledge finally, once and for all, you never could stand the man.

Yes?

All good, Panther. Why didn’t you just say that to begin with?

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Reply #11 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 12:04pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:52am:

Then we agree he ordered Mike and Allen to commit crimes, yes?

Has he been found guilty of that "offence"? Aiding and abetting? Procurement?

"Counsel and procure are types of accomplice activity. Counseling and procuring a crime can lead to punishment under federal and state laws up to the punishment for the crime itself, but this is only if the person knowingly helped the person committing the underlying crime."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/counsel_and_procure

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Reply #12 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 12:28pm

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:41am:

Donald Trump has been fined for non-criminal fraud once again
....Trump has been ordered to pay close to half a billion dollars in fines all up so far and been banned from doing business in New York for 3 years....The DA is irrelivant to Trump's guilt....No amount of deflection or spin can change these facts nor determine any criminal guilt!!!

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Judge orders Trump to pay $355 million for lying about his wealth in staggering civil fraud ruling a civil, non-criminal monetary penalty, which only denotes liability, not "guilt". https://imgur.com/6tcmHQH.gif

NEW YORK (AP) — A New York judge ordered Donald Trump on Friday to pay $355 million in penalties, finding that the former president lied about his wealth for years in a sweeping civil fraud verdict that pierces his billionaire image but stops short of putting his real estate empire out of business.

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963), "Proper Studies", 1927

https://apnews.com/article/trump-civil-fraud-verdict-engoron-244024861f0df886543...

Being used to a different/inferior legal system than the one that actually matters relevant to actual "guilt" under the superior US Legal System.....I can understand your uneducated dilemma, & your insistence on making incorrect legal statement after statement regarding an Americans "Criminal Guilt"......that said, whatever happens in a Civil Trial/Lawsuit, that under US Law only determines 'liability', sheds not one bit of light pertaining to a persons "guilt" in the American System, regardless of how you may want it to.

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20101 Perth Gender:	Re: New York AG Letitia James is corrupt Reply #13 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 1:15pm Donald Trump has to pay $355 million in penalties (+ interest), finding that the former President lied about his wealth for years in a sweeping civil fraud verdict....He has also been banned from doing business in New York for 3 years....More to come for the fraudster and con man!!!
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Reply #14 - Mar 6^th, 2024 at 1:40pm

lee wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 12:04pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 6^th, 2024 at 11:52am:

Then we agree he ordered Mike and Allen to commit crimes, yes?

Has he been found guilty of that "offence"? Aiding and abetting? Procurement?

"Counsel and procure are types of accomplice activity. Counseling and procuring a crime can lead to punishment under federal and state laws up to the punishment for the crime itself, but this is only if the person knowingly helped the person committing the underlying crime."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/counsel_and_procure

Not yet, Lee. To date, these facts have only been established in the civil courts. The criminal charges will rule in his trial starting March 25. There, Mike will be testifying to these facts as a witness.

Allen’s evidence will also be presented. It is less likely he will be asked by the prosecution to testify, given his perjury in the civil trial.

Allen has been criminally charged, with prosecutors requesting another six months jail.

I’m sure you’ll be relieved, Lee. We all know you’re no Trump-man.

But you’re a big fan of the rule of law, no?

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