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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #15 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:18pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

lee wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Tell us when you get the figures for the new transmission lines needed for the Renewable energy and we can compare.

Nuclear doesn't run on transmission lines?

Interesting Cheesy

A nuclear power plant can utilise the existing network. It does not require an extra 10,00 kilometres to link up like these widely scattered 'renewable' sites.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17662 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #16 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:19pm John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:15pm: Nuclear doesn't run on transmission lines? Of course it does dummy. But they can be co-located with the existing infrastructure. And you don't need 3 times overbuild to get the same electricity out.
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #17 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:53pm:

lee wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 4:56pm:

So-called, "greentape" exist to protect the people and the environment from idiots like you, Lee and the failed Queensland ex-Copper.

Oh you mean like environmental idiots who want to destroy the environment by putting up Solar arrays and wind turbines. Weather dependant renewables will not power Australia. Therefore something else has to happen.

"Green" Germany is cutting down 120,000 trees to put in more wind turbines. And Germany is suffering from the cuts to reliable, dispatchable electricity.

Australia want to put in wind turbines off Portland, don't worry about the whales. Roll Eyes

Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Lee your concern is commendable even if fake. You just want belching Chimney stacks spewing smoke and pollution and it seems radiation across the land. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Utter rubbish. Nuclear is clean, safe and reliable, the only issue is the ill informed fear mongering by those with an agenda. Roll Eyes

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whiteknight Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 8179 melbourne Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #18 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:22pm "With a very developed [nuclear] regulatory regime, with a very developed nuclear industry [in] the nuclear leader of the world, the average build time of a nuclear power plant in the United States is 19 years.
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #19 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:26pm

Belgarion wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:18pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

lee wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:13pm:

Tell us when you get the figures for the new transmission lines needed for the Renewable energy and we can compare.

Nuclear doesn't run on transmission lines?

Interesting Cheesy

A nuclear power plant can utilise the existing network. It does not require an extra 10,00 kilometres to link up like these widely scattered 'renewable' sites.

Sure, if the locals want a reactor in their back yards. Otherwise it's new lines for nuclear too. Cheesy

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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #20 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:27pm

lee wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:15pm:

Nuclear doesn't run on transmission lines?

Of course it does dummy. But they can be co-located with the existing infrastructure. And you don't need 3 times overbuild to get the same electricity out. Roll Eyes

The only overbuild is the calcium overbuild in your head. Didn't leave enough room for your brain.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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whiteknight Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 8179 melbourne Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #21 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:28pm Australia has a total ban on nuclear energy in place, which the Coalition would have to win the support of parliament to lift even if it won government at the next federal election.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49062 At my desk.	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #22 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:28pm So the coalition is right that they could do it in under 10 years, so long as they were faced with some kind of alternate reality where half their problems are already solved?
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #23 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:30pm

whiteknight wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:22pm:

"With a very developed [nuclear] regulatory regime, with a very developed nuclear industry [in] the nuclear leader of the world, the average build time of a nuclear power plant in the United States is 19 years.

In the United States only. That's why it is called Greenmail. Meanwhile - France and Italy are for, part of 13 countries out of the 27.
Sweden looking at overturning the ban on uranium mining.

US mines re-opening.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17662 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #24 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:28pm: So the coalition is right that they could do it in under 10 years, so long as they were faced with some kind of alternate reality where half their problems are already solved? Which problems?
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Reply #25 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:32pm

lee wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:28pm:

So the coalition is right that they could do it in under 10 years, so long as they were faced with some kind of alternate reality where half their problems are already solved?

Which problems?

For example, the ones you brought up in your first post in the thread.

Are you saying that the coalition are not lying with this promise because you have already found the excuse for when they fail to deliver?

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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #26 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:34pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:27pm:

The only overbuild is the calcium overbuild in your head.

Once again JS shows the world how little he knows.

The wind and solar farms use NAMEPLATE capacity. They have a RATED capacity at about 25% to 35% of nameplate. That means at least a 3 times overbuild to get the same amount of electricity. Roll Eyes

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17662 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #27 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:43pm freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:32pm: For example, the ones you brought up in your first post in the thread. Ah Greentape. A federal government would have the right to remove the Bill. It would only need a simple majority.
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Reply #28 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:51pm

lee wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:43pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:32pm:

For example, the ones you brought up in your first post in the thread.

Ah Greentape. A federal government would have the right to remove the Bill. It would only need a simple majority. Roll Eyes

What about time? Would they also need time?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17662 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #29 - Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:53pm freediver wrote on Mar 11^th, 2024 at 5:51pm: What about time? Would they also need time? Only you would think it could be done ex officio.
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