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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #180 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:30pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 9:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 4:28pm:

What he doesn't mention is that the nuclear waste is still radioactive, even if encased in glass. You still have to store it for it's life, which is over 24,000 years. Are you going to guarantee it during that period as safe, Belgarion? Really? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Uranium 238 has a half life of 4.5 billion years. After 9 billion years it will decay leaving 25%.

Uranium is radioactive before it's mined there is no problem with it while it's in the ground.

So, are you prepared to move to near a Uranium mine and work underground, Baron? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I wouldn't be scared like the bedwetters in this forum Bwhine Roll Eyes

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Gamma radiation is harder to protect against.

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Radiation protection

Almost any material can act as a shield from gamma or x-rays if used in sufficient amounts.

For example, a practical shield in a fallout shelter with ten halving-thicknesses of packed dirt, which is roughly 115 cm (3 ft 9 in), reduces gamma rays to 1/1024 of their original intensity (i.e. 2−10).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_protection#:~:text=A%20quantity%20known%...

We bury humans deeper than that.

So, when are you going to be buried, Baron? Another coward it seems. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #181 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:30pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:08pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 9:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 4:28pm:

What he doesn't mention is that the nuclear waste is still radioactive, even if encased in glass. You still have to store it for it's life, which is over 24,000 years. Are you going to guarantee it during that period as safe, Belgarion? Really? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Uranium 238 has a half life of 4.5 billion years. After 9 billion years it will decay leaving 25%.

Uranium is radioactive before it's mined there is no problem with it while it's in the ground.

So, are you prepared to move to near a Uranium mine and work underground, Baron? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I wouldn't be scared like the bedwetters in this forum Bwhine Roll Eyes

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Gamma radiation is harder to protect against.

Quote:

Radiation protection

Almost any material can act as a shield from gamma or x-rays if used in sufficient amounts.

For example, a practical shield in a fallout shelter with ten halving-thicknesses of packed dirt, which is roughly 115 cm (3 ft 9 in), reduces gamma rays to 1/1024 of their original intensity (i.e. 2−10).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_protection#:~:text=A%20quantity%20known%...

We bury humans deeper than that.

So, when are you going to be buried, Baron? Another coward it seems. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

I hope to have a Viking funeral.

Bwhine throwing ad hominems when he has nothing. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 41948	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #182 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:44pm Quoting Craig Kelly? Another failure it seems. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #183 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:44pm:

Quoting Craig Kelly? Another failure it seems. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

His comment on being one of the top 25 economies that excludes nuclear power was telling.

Nuclear will give us cheaper off peak power to run AC/heaters and charge electric vehicles at night when people are home. Nuclear runs pretty much flat out for fuel cycle in the US off peak rates are cheaper to encourage people to use it.

Solar doesn't work at night and being a yachtie the wind usually dies off at night which severely limits those methods.

Cruising yachts have ditched wind turbines they prefer water turbines.
https://www.wattandsea.com/en/hydrogenerators/

Wind and solar aren't going to power us we need something reliable.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5429 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #184 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 9:30am Just wondering if any of our rabid renewalists and anti-nuclear Luddites has ever traveled overseas.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 41948	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #185 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 11:25am Belgarion wrote on Mar 16^th, 2024 at 9:30am: Just wondering if any of our rabid renewalists and anti-nuclear Luddites has ever traveled overseas. Not recently. I understand they are making inroads into energy generation with renewables in many developed countries.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17703 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #186 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 12:26pm freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 8:33pm: Lee do you know what half life means? Yes. I made a mistake. I guess you never have.
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #187 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 12:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 16^th, 2024 at 11:25am:

I understand they are making inroads into energy generation with renewables in many developed countries.

Making inroads? Does that somehow transform them from being weather dependant?

BTW - You said that hydrogen energy will be complementary to other renewables. BUT the green hydrogen comes from a solar farm, so in reality it is a parasitic load. Roll Eyes

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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #188 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 12:33pm

lee wrote on Mar 16^th, 2024 at 12:26pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2024 at 8:33pm:

Lee do you know what half life means?

Yes. I made a mistake. I guess you never have. Roll Eyes

It's kind of fundamental to a topic you like to tell everyone about, and you had already been told several times in this thread alone what it means. And probably several times in high school.

Would you like to have another go at telling us how long you think the radioactive waste needs to be stored for?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17703 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #189 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 12:36pm freediver wrote on Mar 16^th, 2024 at 12:33pm: Would you like to have another go at telling us how long you think the radioactive waste needs to be stored for? However long it takes depending entirely upon its composition. But realistically, forever, why would you need to dig up spent fuel?
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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5429 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #190 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 1:18pm Yet more facts to demolish the anti-nuclear arguments. https://www.tiktok.com/@theradguyglows/video/7298673871031455019
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #191 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 1:31pm

lee wrote on Mar 16^th, 2024 at 12:36pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 16^th, 2024 at 12:33pm:

Would you like to have another go at telling us how long you think the radioactive waste needs to be stored for?

However long it takes depending entirely upon its composition.
But realistically, forever, why would you need to dig up spent fuel? Roll Eyes

Do you understand why radioactive waste is stored? Perhaps google it this time before answering. I'd hate to see you make another mistake.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17703 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #192 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 1:56pm freediver wrote on Mar 16^th, 2024 at 1:31pm: Do you understand why radioactive waste is stored? Yes. So how many time constants would you have it stored? 3? 4? Using an LNT model or something else?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17703 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #194 - Mar 16^th, 2024 at 3:30pm You don't understand a lot of things.
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