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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17684 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #255 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 2:25pm So once again you can't provide figures to back up your claims.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49075 At my desk.	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #256 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 2:29pm What claims would those be? Who is offering to store radioactive waste for free? I think I have identified the demographic that the coalition is targeting with this 10 year nuclear rubbish.
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #257 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 2:57pm

freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 2:29pm:

What claims would those be?

Claim 1. Nuclear is too expensive

Claim 2. It costs to store radioactive waste.

freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 2:29pm:

I think I have identified the demographic that the coalition is targeting with this 10 year nuclear rubbish.

Nope. You haven't thought. Labor supports nuclear subs but shies away from safer nuclear power. Submarines have weight constraints which makes them marginally less safe. Roll Eyes

As to voters?

"About half of Australia’s left-of-centre voters are open to the introduction of nuclear energy when it is connected to lower emissions of carbon dioxide, according to a survey for a think tank aligned with the Liberal Party.

Fifty per cent of Labor voters and 52 per cent of Greens voters said nuclear should be considered as part of “Australia’s low-emissions energy future”, according to the survey by True North Strategy for the Menzies Research Centre."

https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/half-of-left-wing-voters-support-nuclear-po...

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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #258 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:01pm

https://xyz.net.au/2024/03/does-dutton-want-nukes/

Does Dutton Want Nukes?

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Then there is the little matter of nuclear weapons. With nuclear reactors, Australia could rightly build its own nuclear arsenal. Defence thinkers are openly dubious about whether the United States could or would aid Australia should conflict break out with major powers. Given that the US government is currently playing chicken with both Russia and China, our submarine fleet is years away from modernisation and the Australian armed forces are struggling to recruit from a population it openly despises, a nuclear deterrent would be the ultimate insurance policy.

Here’s the catch – who will have the finger on the trigger?

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Reply #259 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:01pm:

https://xyz.net.au/2024/03/does-dutton-want-nukes/

Does Dutton Want Nukes?

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March 18, 2024

Then there is the little matter of nuclear weapons. With nuclear reactors, Australia could rightly build its own nuclear arsenal. Defence thinkers are openly dubious about whether the United States could or would aid Australia should conflict break out with major powers. Given that the US government is currently playing chicken with both Russia and China, our submarine fleet is years away from modernisation and the Australian armed forces are struggling to recruit from a population it openly despises, a nuclear deterrent would be the ultimate insurance policy.

Here’s the catch – who will have the finger on the trigger?

David Hiscox - a right-wing Xenophobe fool. He believes in White Supremacy and is anti-Climate Change. Just up your street, Bobby. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5428 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #260 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:19pm Yet more information for those that claim nuclear takes too long and costs too much: https://www.tiktok.com/@theradguyglows/video/7056757873300360494
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #261 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:01pm:

https://xyz.net.au/2024/03/does-dutton-want-nukes/

Does Dutton Want Nukes?

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David Hiscox -

March 18, 2024

Then there is the little matter of nuclear weapons. With nuclear reactors, Australia could rightly build its own nuclear arsenal. Defence thinkers are openly dubious about whether the United States could or would aid Australia should conflict break out with major powers. Given that the US government is currently playing chicken with both Russia and China, our submarine fleet is years away from modernisation and the Australian armed forces are struggling to recruit from a population it openly despises, a nuclear deterrent would be the ultimate insurance policy.

Here’s the catch – who will have the finger on the trigger?

David Hiscox - a right-wing Xenophobe fool. He believes in White Supremacy and is anti-Climate Change. Just up your street, Bobby. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

The website doesn't get a good rating: Embarrassed

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/xyz-net-au-bias/

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17684 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #262 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:23pm MediaBiasFactCheck has it's own bias problems.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41932	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #263 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:27pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:20pm: The website doesn't get a good rating: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/xyz-net-au-bias/ So, why quote it, Bobby? Are you just stirring as you usually do? Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #264 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:29pm

lee wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 2:57pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 2:29pm:

What claims would those be?

Claim 1. Nuclear is too expensive

I provided a reference for those.

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Claim 2. It costs to store radioactive waste.

Duh.

Who is offering to store radioactive waste for free?

You should apply for a job as a technical adviser for the coalition.

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About half of Australia’s left-of-centre voters are open to the introduction of nuclear energy when it is connected to lower emissions of carbon dioxide

A big majority also supported the latest referendum. Up until we had the referendum. No-one is going to look into the price of nuclear for an opinion poll, but they will once the government starts talking about wasting huge sums of money.

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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #265 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:20pm:

The website doesn't get a good rating: Embarrassed

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/xyz-net-au-bias/

So, why quote it, Bobby? Are you just stirring as you usually do? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

To be honest I didn't check the source but it sounded credible. Undecided

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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #266 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:47pm

Belgarion wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:19pm:

Yet more information for those that claim nuclear takes too long and costs too much:

https://www.tiktok.com/@theradguyglows/video/7056757873300360494

Unfortunately, he is assuming that a nuclear industry exists already. In Australia, 2024 we have one reactor at Lucas Heights. We do not enrich our own Uranium. We have no where to store our nuclear waste. All factors that need to be built. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream
Reply #267 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:20pm:

The website doesn't get a good rating: Embarrassed

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/xyz-net-au-bias/

So, why quote it, Bobby? Are you just stirring as you usually do? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

To be honest I didn't check the source but it sounded credible. Undecided

But is it, Bobby? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105335 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #268 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:58pm lee wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:23pm: MediaBiasFactCheck has it's own bias problems. You're right - I don't trust it completely but Brian does.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17684 Gender:	Re: Coalition's 10 Year Nuclear Claim Is A Dream Reply #269 - Mar 18^th, 2024 at 4:37pm freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2024 at 3:29pm: I provided a reference for those. And I quoted your reference which says it is not. CAD$1457 per kw works out to 1457/8760=16.6c/kwh. AUD$1=CAD$0.89 Australian prices are from 22c up. Seems a profit margin there.
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