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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #120 - Mar 13th, 2024 at 10:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 13th, 2024 at 9:18pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Mar 13th, 2024 at 6:09pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Mar 13th, 2024 at 2:14am:
DNA can prove descent, end of story.

Not necessarily.

The Human Genome Project was a major scientific development in human
genomics and biomedical sciences. Its findings suggested that all humans
are 99.9% genetically identical
and only 0.1% of genetic variations are
responsible for the phenotypic differences, such as physical traits (height,
intelligence, hair, and eye colour), disease susceptibility, and drug responses,
among individuals in populations.




But 0.04% of the atmosphere definitely controls global climate.


Yeah, right.


That's what the Old Girl keeps telling them in online arguments.... and they all shut up... in quiet valley where used to live there were Almanacs from all the old families..... it seems average temperatures had not changed one whit  for over a hundred years or so.... a little up and down, but that's about it.   Cool
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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #121 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:58am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 12th, 2024 at 11:49am:
Frank wrote on Mar 12th, 2024 at 10:30am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 12th, 2024 at 9:56am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 11th, 2024 at 11:20pm:
Mungo Man has a skull and jaw very like a baboon .... must be related...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/leniu-handed-mammoth-ban-for-monkey-remark...


   ...... he is the ape man.... he is the walrus....... coo-coo-ca-choo .............


8 weeks ... pretty tough

8 weeks suspension for a blackfella/person of colour calling a blackfella/person of colour a monkey Grin

Ohhh the irony.


Had he called him a stupid white bastard he would have been patted on the back.


If he was describing you and Gnads, he'd have been right on the money, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hypocrite
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Reply #122 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:17am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 11th, 2024 at 4:51pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 11th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10th, 2024 at 3:39pm:
Looking back on Mungo Man – human remains millennia older than the pyramids – 50 years on - his discovery changed everything we knew about Indigenous Australians - for the better.


The Egyptians built the Pyramids around 5000 years ago.

The best the Aborigines could do in 40,000 years is a bark hut.


*SIGH* there is evidence that Indigenous Australians once lived in Stone Huts.  The idea that they have been nomadic all their existence is old hat.  The climate of Australia was once much wetter and supported Aquaculture and Agriculture.  Please, acquaint yourself with modern Archeology, Baron.  Your Racism is showing too clearly to be of much use.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only time they became sedentary was after colonisation .... and then they still went "walkabout".

You're so full shyte you should be processed at the Bolivar Sewage Treatment plant.
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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #123 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 12:37pm
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #124 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 3:50pm
 
Yawning doesn't help your lack of understanding of DNA.... DNA samples have been taken from bone marrow.... let's get some from Mungo Man and compare them with a database taken from the locals who claim everything without proof...

What are you afraid of?  That they WILL be found to have zero connection with Mungo Man???
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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #125 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 5:47pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 3:50pm:
Yawning doesn't help your lack of understanding of DNA.... DNA samples have been taken from bone marrow.... let's get some from Mungo Man and compare them with a database taken from the locals who claim everything without proof...

What are you afraid of?  That they WILL be found to have zero connection with Mungo Man???


Graps you can't reason with a melonheaded virtue signaling self loating guilt ridden twat like Bwyan.
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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #126 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:28pm
 
The notion that walkabout was an immense journey - a road trip if you will, has always been a myth.

Aboriginal tribes/clans moved around their territory depending on food source availability and climate.

The early settlers quickly realised that while local Aboriginals had an encyclopedic knowledge of their respective territory, once beyond it, they were not much more knowledgable than the settlers themselves, with guides often deferring to explorer-settlers' estimation of resource location.

This is true even today - remote-community Aboriginals outside their territory can get as lost as non-Aboriginals in remote areas and risk dehydration and death.

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Reply #127 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:37pm
 


The only trouble with this though is that the continent was marked with pretty thorough 'tracks' much like highways and freeways right across the continent from top to bottom, from west to east and so on.
Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were smart enough at least to ask the Dharruk which way across the Blue Mountains and they just pointed to the right 'track'. The three of them later pompously promoted themselves to the Newspapers so to speak, that they 'themselves' had discovered the way across. It seems they too, take liberty with the truth as much as Pascoe.

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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #128 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:21pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 3:50pm:
Yawning doesn't help your lack of understanding of DNA.... DNA samples have been taken from bone marrow.... let's get some from Mungo Man and compare them with a database taken from the locals who claim everything without proof...

What are you afraid of?  That they WILL be found to have zero connection with Mungo Man???


I am only afraid of fools like yourself who do not understand how DNA works.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #129 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 3:50pm:
Yawning doesn't help your lack of understanding of DNA.... DNA samples have been taken from bone marrow.... let's get some from Mungo Man and compare them with a database taken from the locals who claim everything without proof...

What are you afraid of?  That they WILL be found to have zero connection with Mungo Man???


I am only afraid of fools like yourself who do not understand how DNA works.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Well we know DNA hasn't worked for you Brian.
You're like Darwin - so-called Expert on Evolution, while siring 'inbred' kids.
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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #130 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:36pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:37pm:
The only trouble with this though is that the continent was marked with pretty thorough 'tracks' much like highways and freeways right across the continent from top to bottom, from west to east and so on.


Aboriginal peoples were restricted by how far they could walk. and how feasible it was to walk. They also did not encroach on land that wasn't part of their territory unless they knew the tribe occupying it.

What would be the point of walking hundreds of kilometres, risking death? What use would a walk like that be to their tribe/clan?
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Reply #131 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:47pm
 
Then what would be the point of the continent spanning tracks?
Something is amiss or missed here.
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Reply #132 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 10:03pm
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:47pm:
Then what would be the point of the continent spanning tracks?
Something is amiss or missed here.

Each tribe had their tracks around their territory.

They didn't form an intracontinental network.

They didn't even speak the same languages had different customs and, for the most part, would have no opportunity to learn who the other tribes were hundreds/thousands of kilometres from their respective terrorities.

The same was true of the native American tribes - restricted by how far they could walk, until they were introduced to the horse.


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Reply #133 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 10:06pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 10:03pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 9:47pm:
Then what would be the point of the continent spanning tracks?
Something is amiss or missed here.

Each tribe had their tracks around their territory.

They didn't form an intracontinental network.

They didn't even speak the same languages had different customs and, for the most part, would have no opportunity to learn who the other tribes were hundreds/thousands of kilometres from their respective terrorities.

The same was true of the native American tribes - restricted by how far they could walk, until they were introduced to the horse.



I'll get back to you on that one as I've seen otherwise.
I have to watch something else first.
Then I'll find the links proving that there was inter-continental (good way of putting it) tracks which coincided with 'Songlines' that traversed across the continent.
Stay tuned.
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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #134 - Mar 15th, 2024 at 8:37am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:37pm:
The only trouble with this though is that the continent was marked with pretty thorough 'tracks' much like highways and freeways right across the continent from top to bottom, from west to east and so on.
Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson were smart enough at least to ask the Dharruk which way across the Blue Mountains and they just pointed to the right 'track'. The three of them later pompously promoted themselves to the Newspapers so to speak, that they 'themselves' had discovered the way across. It seems they too, take liberty with the truth as much as Pascoe.



That's just Pascoesque bs.

The Dharruk were locals for Blaxland, Wentworth & Lawson.

They didn't take them any further than their range and only as far as Bathurst. Only about 115klm.
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