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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40817	Looking back on Mungo Man Mar 10^th, 2024 at 3:39pm Looking back on Mungo Man – human remains millennia older than the pyramids – 50 years on - his discovery changed everything we knew about Indigenous Australians - for the better.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47333 Gender:	Re: Looking back on Mungo Man Reply #1 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 3:56pm / (...its a stick)
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Reply #2 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 3:56pm

Gee. Stating the obvious here.
Looking back.
Remains older than the 6,000 year old grave sites in Egypt.
Stone Tools have been found dating back to 2.5 million years ago.

Considering the date of Mungo Man would have had him being Denisovan Tasmanian Aborigine and not the current Carpentarian (sub-Curry Munchers) who invaded much later for more recent times.

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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #3 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 4:00pm

Where's the proof he's even related to any Keffir? Not allowed to scrape his bones to make your bread of DNA test.... that's desecration.... got it covered from all angles eh - especially those Angles from Olde Englande .... Wharte Men can't jump to valid conclusions that way and say Mungo had nuffin' to do with the local Abos...

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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #4 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 4:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 3:39pm:

Looking back on Mungo Man – human remains millennia older than the pyramids – 50 years on - his discovery changed everything we knew about Indigenous Australians - for the better.

"These people were highly sophisticated 40,000 years ago, nobody had ever thought of Indigenous Australia in those terms," he says.

"There's no ochre within well over 100 kilometres … that ochre had to be prepared in advance, brought in, traded maybe.

"Quite a detailed ritual involved in that exercise, bringing the stuff in and preparing it and anointing the body.

"It's the sort of thing that goes on in a requiem in any cathedral.

Cheesy

So sophisticated, all those Aboriginal cathedrals!

Apparently, elephants bury their dedead calves. Are they as sophisticated as Aborigines and cathedral builders?

I find the Bbwianesque talking up of evidently primitive people laughable. The only interesting thing about Aborigines is how amazingly primitive and totally frozen in pre-history they were.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10882 armidale Gender:	Re: Looking back on Mungo Man Reply #5 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:01pm Jasin wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 3:56pm: Considering the date of Mungo Man would have had him being Denisovan Tasmanian Aborigine and not the current Carpentarian (sub-Curry Munchers) who invaded much later for more recent times. Good. You spell Mungo, Denisovan and Tasmanian the right way. After that, it's a mess.
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Reply #6 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:11pm

chimera wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:01pm:

Jasin wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 3:56pm:

Considering the date of Mungo Man would have had him being Denisovan Tasmanian Aborigine and not the current Carpentarian (sub-Curry Munchers) who invaded much later for more recent times.

Good. You spell Mungo, Denisovan and Tasmanian the right way.
After that, it's a mess.

You're like a guy LTYC, who can only put down my sense of fashion because you find it hard to put down my argument.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11739 Gender:	Re: Looking back on Mungo Man Reply #7 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:25pm Mungo Man must be understood in the context of all discovered ancient human peoples' remains, artefacts and art. There is no necessary direct link between the ancient aboriginal peoples' remains discovered in any region and those peoples living there today. Aboriginal cave artists in Lascaux were not French.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47333 Gender:	Re: Looking back on Mungo Man Reply #8 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:29pm So really, they haven't been 'allowed' to prove the worth of Mungo Man, so how can they prove he was aborigine - like them?
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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10882 armidale Gender:	Re: Looking back on Mungo Man Reply #9 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:29pm Jasin wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:11pm: who can only put down my sense of fashion because you find it hard to put down my argument. Darl, I love your cute fashions. Gorgeous. Did you have an argument, dearie?
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47333 Gender:	Re: Looking back on Mungo Man Reply #10 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:30pm chimera wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:29pm: Jasin wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:11pm: who can only put down my sense of fashion because you find it hard to put down my argument. Darl, I love your cute fashions. Gorgeous. Did you have an argument, dearie? Trying to be like Karnal-Chimp_Fisk now?
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Reply #11 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:38pm

Jasin wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:29pm:

So really, they haven't been 'allowed' to prove the worth of Mungo Man, so how can they prove he was aborigine - like them?

He was aboriginal in the sense of the word, but was he an ancestor of modern Australian indigenous peoples? Probably not.

It might be more probable that he was related to the ancient ancestors of the Andaman Islands peoples - closer in morphology to ancient African peoples and unrelated to ancient subcontinental peoples, and with no Denisovan ancestry.

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Reply #12 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:48pm

As expected, the Racists think up excuses to denigrate Mungo Man, rather than celebrate his life for what it was - an Australian Indigenous person's. My ex-brother-in-law was there, when Mungo Man was discovered. His discovery turned the archeological record on it's head. It showed the Indigenous Australians were here long before the arrival of White Man and that Australia was their land. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Looking back on Mungo Man
Reply #13 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:50pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

As expected, the Racists think up excuses to denigrate Mungo Man, rather than celebrate his life for what it was - an Australian Indigenous person's. My ex-brother-in-law was there, when Mungo Man was discovered. His discovery turn the archeological record on it's head. It showed the Indigenous Australians were here long before the arrival of White Man and that Australia was their land. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Is it racist to wonder about the origins of ancient peoples?

No one argues that Australian indigenous peoples existed in Australia long before Europeans.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10882 armidale Gender:	Re: Looking back on Mungo Man Reply #14 - Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:55pm MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 10^th, 2024 at 5:38pm: but was he an ancestor of modern Australian indigenous peoples? Probably not. He was British to the boot straps. 'No sex please, we're British'.
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