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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45884 Gender:	Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ? Reply #90 - May 24^th, 2024 at 7:38am Truth. Fact. Not that you are a christian.
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Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ?
Reply #91 - May 24^th, 2024 at 8:36am

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:10pm:

blasphemy, heresy, apostasy and witchcraft. Shocked

Would you really think that most people give a damn about your religion that they have to proceed carefully with what they write? No, they don't. Most Australians are non-religious. Going with the 2016 Australian Census, 55% of Australians identified as being Christian. Of those Christians, 10% of Christians would go to church services at least once a month. Whereas 2% of Christians would attend church services at least once a week.

Basically, 5% of Australians would attend church regularly or semi-regularly, in the year 2016. The other 50% of Australians who claimed to be Christians would hardly go. That leads me to claim that Australia is a secular nation, and Bobby is part of the minority.

Think about the last census in Australia. 43% of Australians identified as Christians. I can tell you that church services are declining and churches are shutting down. A new generation of educated people are coming through as the latest adults to keep you fed and clothed in your old age. Education is the kryptonite to the concept of keeping religion viable. The more people know, the less religious they become.

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Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ?
Reply #92 - May 24^th, 2024 at 8:46am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 10:15pm:

Frank wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 8:10pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 6:48pm:

“Jesus Christ” did not exist. If he existed it was over 1900 years before I was born.

You are an idiot.

No. There is no actual evidence that Jesus Christ ever existed. "Jesus Christ" is just another version of the Egyptian mythology character called "Horus". You would think that if the Romans put to death such a celebrity, they would have made such a big deal about the execution.

Oh, right on cue, the "it's just another...." argument arrives.

He wasn't a celebrity, the crucified him, the punishment for slaves, not 'celebrities'. One of the crucial points is PRECISELY that he was not treated like a god or celebrity but was humiliated and scourged.

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Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ?
Reply #93 - May 24^th, 2024 at 8:58am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 8:36am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:10pm:

blasphemy, heresy, apostasy and witchcraft. Shocked

Would you really think that most people give a damn about your religion that they have to proceed carefully with what they write? No, they don't. Most Australians are non-religious. Going with the 2016 Australian Census, 55% of Australians identified as being Christian. Of those Christians, 10% of Christians would go to church services at least once a month. Whereas 2% of Christians would attend church services at least once a week.

Basically, 5% of Australians would attend church regularly or semi-regularly, in the year 2016. The other 50% of Australians who claimed to be Christians would hardly go. That leads me to claim that Australia is a secular nation, and Bobby is part of the minority.

Think about the last census in Australia. 43% of Australians identified as Christians. I can tell you that church services are declining and churches are shutting down. A new generation of educated people are coming through as the latest adults to keep you fed and clothed in your old age. Education is the kryptonite to the concept of keeping religion viable. The more people know, the less religious they become.

There is one faith and all else is sin.

Some souls have turned so far from God
that pain is the only way to call them back.

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Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ?
Reply #94 - May 24^th, 2024 at 11:44am

Frank wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 8:46am:

Oh, right on cue, the "it's just another...." argument arrives.

He wasn't a celebrity, the crucified him, the punishment for slaves, not 'celebrities'. One of the crucial points is PRECISELY that he was not treated like a god or celebrity but was humiliated and scourged.

Oh, right on cue, the religious fundamentalist dork trying to rationalise hundreds of years of international terrorism, just because some children's stories made an impression on frank.

Jesus was not anything other than a mythology character. Religion is used to scare the stupid people. Most children grow out of believing in the bogeyman by the time they reach their teens. But, not you?

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Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ?
Reply #95 - May 24^th, 2024 at 11:48am

Bobby. wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 8:58am:

There is one faith and all else is sin.

Some souls have turned so far from God
that pain is the only way to call them back.

If I could be bothered, I would research all the contradictions and falsehoods of the New Testament of your bible and tear the religion of Christianity to pieces.

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Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ?
Reply #96 - May 24^th, 2024 at 4:47pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 11:44am:

Frank wrote on May 24^th, 2024 at 8:46am:

Oh, right on cue, the "it's just another...." argument arrives.

He wasn't a celebrity, the crucified him, the punishment for slaves, not 'celebrities'. One of the crucial points is PRECISELY that he was not treated like a god or celebrity but was humiliated and scourged.

Oh, right on cue, the religious fundamentalist dork trying to rationalise hundreds of years of international terrorism, just because some children's stories made an impression on frank.

Jesus was not anything other than a mythology character. Religion is used to scare the stupid people. Most children grow out of believing in the bogeyman by the time they reach their teens. But, not you?

Nonsense. You don't have to believe in Christianity or the divinity or otherwise of Jesus to know that he
1 did exist
2 was not a celebrity
3 has nuffin' to do with Horus

These are not matters of faith or belief in the divine.

Religion is NOT JUST for scaring stupid people although it has been used for that (not just Christianity but all of them).
To say that religion is JUST THAT is evidently ignorant and blinkered.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24395 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ? Reply #97 - May 25^th, 2024 at 8:28am Jesus Christ did NOT exist. There has been no verifiable evidence to show that there was a person who did all that was written in the Bible about Jesus.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 45884 Gender:	Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ? Reply #98 - May 25^th, 2024 at 9:22am Plenty of only partly sane preachers about at the time. There is not a shred of evidence that Christ—the Christ of the NT—actually existed. That census that sent Joseph and Mary to Bethlehem—no record of it.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 101793 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ? Reply #99 - May 25^th, 2024 at 9:32am Jovial Monk wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 9:22am: Plenty of only partly sane preachers about at the time. There is not a shred of evidence that Christ—the Christ of the NT—actually existed. That census that sent Joseph and Mary to Bethlehem—no record of it. That is the devil inside you talking.
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24395 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ? Reply #100 - May 25^th, 2024 at 10:52am Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 9:32am: That is the devil inside you talking. Bobby minutes after Bobby wrote that:
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 101793 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ? Reply #101 - May 25^th, 2024 at 10:58am Demons exist - sometimes right in front of our noses:
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24395 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ? Reply #102 - May 25^th, 2024 at 11:20am It has been pointed out numerous times that the guy was high on drugs at that concert. I watched the video, and the security there had the guy chucked out of the concert.
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Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ?
Reply #103 - May 25^th, 2024 at 11:23am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 11:20am:

It has been pointed out numerous times that the guy was high on drugs at that concert. I watched the video, and the security there had the guy chucked out of the concert.

It was at 2:20 in the video.
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Re: Should Jews apologise for killing Christ?
Reply #104 - May 25^th, 2024 at 9:06pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 8:28am:

Jesus Christ did NOT exist. There has been no verifiable evidence to show that there was a person who did all that was written in the Bible about Jesus.

The stories about Jesus are very particular, story-like. They are nothing like mythological fables at all. Too specific to be mere fabulations.
Also remember that his followers were severely persecuted for 300 years - you dont invent something and then get maryred for it, knowing that it was a mere invention. Nobody would die for Grimm's Fairy Tales or for the truth of Achilles, or even Plato or Aristotle.

You can say that Jesus was nothing special, although that would be pretty stupid considering his evident impact and effect on the world, but to say that he didn't even exist yet had a greater impact than anyone else is just idiotic in the extreme.

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