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Crocodile catch management for QLD
Mar 12^th, 2024 at 10:33am

This is an in-principle proposal of mine to reintroduce limited commercial and recreational catch of crocodiles in QLD, with the aim of providing a sustainable catch from convenient locations, as well as maintaining existing swimming areas, particularly in more southern areas. It would involve keeping the current protections for most of the QLD coast, but within certain zones saltwater (estuarine) crocodiles may be taken by both commercial and recreational fishermen, with no size or gender restrictions, but probably catch/possession limits if needed. Management could include licences for both commercial and recreational fishermen that require GPS tracking of boats and mandatory reporting of all catches.

These zones are (including any catchments that empty into these areas):
Anywhere south of 1770 (24.1 latitude).
Yeppoon: Bangalea to Keppel Sands.
Mackay: Shoal point to Bakers Creek, including Pioneer River
Airlie Beach: Hideaway Bay to Chute Harbour
Townsville: Toolakea to Cungulla, including Ross River
Cairns: Cooya Beach to Bulburra Beach
Cooktown: Endeavour River to Annan River
Stewart River
Weipa: Duyfken Point to Triluck Creek
Mitchell River catchment upstream of Maramie
Normanton: Karumba River
Burketown: Albert River

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 50070 Gender:	Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD Reply #1 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 12:55pm Yah Poon
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Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD
Reply #2 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 5:12pm

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 10:33am:

This is an in-principle proposal of mine to reintroduce limited commercial and recreational catch of crocodiles in QLD, with the aim of providing a sustainable catch from convenient locations, as well as maintaining existing swimming areas, particularly in more southern areas. It would involve keeping the current protections for most of the QLD coast, but within certain zones saltwater (estuarine) crocodiles may be taken by both commercial and recreational fishermen, with no size or gender restrictions, but probably catch/possession limits if needed. Management could include licences for both commercial and recreational fishermen that require GPS tracking of boats and mandatory reporting of all catches.

These zones are (including any catchments that empty into these areas):
Anywhere south of 1770 (24.1 latitude).
Yeppoon: Bangalea to Keppel Sands.
Mackay: Shoal point to Bakers Creek, including Pioneer River
Airlie Beach: Hideaway Bay to Chute Harbour
Townsville: Toolakea to Cungulla, including Ross River
Cairns: Cooya Beach to Bulburra Beach
Cooktown: Endeavour River to Annan River
Stewart River
Weipa: Duyfken Point to Triluck Creek
Mitchell River catchment upstream of Maramie
Normanton: Karumba River
Burketown: Albert River

Are you proposing only fishermen can take crocs?

With Gators in the US they shoot them after catching how are these fishermen going to finish them in a humane way?

If it's going to be legal to catch crocs why limit it to fishing surely licensed hunters could grab a few as well.

I think we should allow trophy hunting with crocs it would be a sustainable industry providing employment for our natives.

Airlie beach area didn't have crocs in the 1980s now it's driving away tourists in yachts.

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Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD
Reply #3 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 5:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 5:12pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 10:33am:

This is an in-principle proposal of mine to reintroduce limited commercial and recreational catch of crocodiles in QLD, with the aim of providing a sustainable catch from convenient locations, as well as maintaining existing swimming areas, particularly in more southern areas. It would involve keeping the current protections for most of the QLD coast, but within certain zones saltwater (estuarine) crocodiles may be taken by both commercial and recreational fishermen, with no size or gender restrictions, but probably catch/possession limits if needed. Management could include licences for both commercial and recreational fishermen that require GPS tracking of boats and mandatory reporting of all catches.

These zones are (including any catchments that empty into these areas):
Anywhere south of 1770 (24.1 latitude).
Yeppoon: Bangalea to Keppel Sands.
Mackay: Shoal point to Bakers Creek, including Pioneer River
Airlie Beach: Hideaway Bay to Chute Harbour
Townsville: Toolakea to Cungulla, including Ross River
Cairns: Cooya Beach to Bulburra Beach
Cooktown: Endeavour River to Annan River
Stewart River
Weipa: Duyfken Point to Triluck Creek
Mitchell River catchment upstream of Maramie
Normanton: Karumba River
Burketown: Albert River

Are you proposing only fishermen can take crocs?

With Gators in the US they shoot them after catching how are these fishermen going to finish them in a humane way?

If it's going to be legal to catch crocs why limit it to fishing surely licensed hunters could grab a few as well.

I think we should allow trophy hunting with crocs it would be a sustainable industry providing employment for our natives.

Airlie beach area didn't have crocs in the 1980s now it's driving away tourists in yachts.

The people catching them would be free to self identify as hunters or fishermen. They could put a checkbox on the application form, and include an 'other' category.

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Baronvonrort Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18944 Gender:	Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD Reply #4 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 5:44pm In Qld hunters can only shoot on private property zoned rural. Most waterfront properties are only private up to high tide mark. In NSW we allow hunting on public land with R class license. You have to book in carry a GPS wear orange clothes etc. Should bow hunting be allowed with crocs?
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Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD
Reply #5 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 8:13pm

I'm guessing you wear a pair of crocodile skin boots FD?

I don't think 'Trophies for Sport' is the best way to tackle the Crocs. You have every bozo yobbo on beer for 'recreational' fun firing off in all directions.

There should be support for a viable Commercial aspect that is regulated, watched and 'professionalised'. Hunters can join/be employed through such Companies.

Gee. Long time ago swimming around Airlie Beach. Not a word about Crocs around there.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 50070 Gender:	Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD Reply #7 - Mar 12^th, 2024 at 9:30pm I wouldn't consider Crocodile a 'food' resource. One of the 'foulest' meats I've ever experienced. Imagine, something dead and rotting - inside of the croc, rotting away even more via slow metabolisms... as its diet. Yuk!
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Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD
Reply #8 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 7:25am

Jasin wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 9:30pm:

I wouldn't consider Crocodile a 'food' resource.
One of the 'foulest' meats I've ever experienced.
Imagine, something dead and rotting - inside of the croc, rotting away even more via slow metabolisms... as its diet.
Yuk!

That's what mud crabs and prawns eat.

I've eaten croc before. It was good. Maybe a bit bland.

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Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD
Reply #9 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 9:44am

Jasin wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 9:30pm:

I wouldn't consider Crocodile a 'food' resource.
One of the 'foulest' meats I've ever experienced.
Imagine, something dead and rotting - inside of the croc, rotting away even more via slow metabolisms... as its diet.
Yuk!

Eating croc is like swallowing an Election in your PA Forum run by 'your' Aussie. Wink

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 50070 Gender:	Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD Reply #11 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 10:09am Boot Aussie & Monk out of Ozpol (void their Modships for better members) now that they have 'their' PA's, and I'll openly admit to loving it like it was the only food left in the world. Yum Yum.
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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 50070 Gender:	Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD Reply #12 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 12:21pm Looks like I'm having croc soup tonight.
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Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD
Reply #13 - Mar 15^th, 2024 at 10:08pm

freediver wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 8:52pm:

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Should bow hunting be allowed with crocs?

That sounds kind of pointless. Harpoon perhaps. But I expect trapping works best. The Americans have all sorts of interesting techniques for alligators that may also work for crocs.

Bow hunting is legal for feral species here if it's ok to hunt crocs does method need regulating? Not a fan of bow hunting some can hit ping pong ball size target at 20m.

When they trap them or catch on a line with hook they usually shoot them at close range if they aren't relocating them.

There was a guy on US TV who would swim out after gators with a rope on a pole to catch them.

How would you kill a croc you caught on a fishing boat?
I reckon shooting before you haul it aboard would be the go, i wouldn't shoot it in the boat if you missed it might spring a leak.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25031 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Crocodile catch management for QLD Reply #14 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:10am Jasin wrote on Mar 12^th, 2024 at 12:55pm: Yah Poon Coorooman Creek... where the real action takes place.
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