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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2024 at 3:45pm
 

‘No idea what we’re facing’: Alice crime scourge escalating

Despite last year’s intense focus, violence is still on the rise and few locals expect anything to change. CCTV does little to deter the gangs in search of cars to steal – including mine.


By LIAM MENDES

It’s 4am in Alice Springs and a gang of young men in a stolen ute is attempting burnouts in the middle of town.  Two of the occupants are hanging out of the rear windows with scarfs wrapped around their faces, one armed with a baseball bat.  The young driver isn’t having much luck pulling off a burnout but that doesn’t stop him careening wildly through roundabouts and across pavements.

When they notice The Australian taking photographs, they start making gang signs and set off firecrackers.  The police station is just one block away but the cops are nowhere to be seen.

The Australian has reported before on children as young as 10 driving stolen cars through town. But these aren’t kids and there’s an air of menace about them.  The baseball bat is a sign of an unwelcome but increasing trend in crime in the Territory. In the past five years, offences against the person have jumped by 37 per cent; property offences by 53 per cent.  Police have been particular targets of the violence, says NT Police Association president Nathan Finn, with an upsurge in offenders deliberately ramming police cars with stolen vehicles.

“This type of violent, reckless, dangerous offending is escalating, and our members want to know what is being done to ensure their safety,” Mr Finn said.  Yet in the past 10 years, he says, only 20 more police have been employed.

“The NT government has absolutely no idea what our members face day in, day out, and the senior police executive can only operate with the finite resources it has,” Mr Finn said.

Even judges and prosecutors have become victims.  One judge has been the target of multiple burglaries; recently, a local Crown prosecutor packed up and left town after being robbed in daylight on the street near her office.  Houses are attacked with golf clubs, assaults are carried out on joggers. Shopping malls have been left ghostlike. Store owners lock their doors even when they’re open. 

Little more than a year ago, a national spotlight was placed on the town amid fly-in visits from Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton, but the intense focus was vanishingly brief and the town is again awash in grog.

No one is surprised to hear that Mr Albanese, Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney and Opposition Leader Mr Dutton, are all visiting again – and few expect anything to change.  Locals will continue to live in a state of constant hypervigilance.

Many homes are equipped with CCTV and motion-activated lights, but that does little to deter the gangs in search of cars to steal – including mine.  During several months reporting from Alice Springs over the past year, this reporter has sometimes stayed with baker Darren Clark – a fierce advocate for his town since violence and crime exploded following the lapse in intervention-era grog bans.

Last week, I was asleep, along with the other people in Clark’s house, when a group of boys discovered the back door hadn’t properly locked. The boys knew what they were looking for, ignoring my camera equipment and homing in on the car keys.  My rented Nissan X-Trail was gone; so too Clark’s Toyota.

“There’s so many of these young gangs now,” Clark says. “They’re not scared of a camera being on. If they don’t leave a print, they can’t be identified by their faces. They know they can’t be charged.”  For the past few years, Clark has been living in daily fear of burglary and violence. “I’d rather they steal my car, instead of waking up to the kids in my room, which has been happening more and more,” he said.

“The amount of stories I’ve heard where people have had machetes held to their throats and (their keys) being demanded, I’ve always left mine out on the bench in plain sight. You’re always on high alert, when we hear a noise or the dog barks or growls.  “You’re always on edge.”

The tragedy is that it is not only the victims of crime in grave danger. Late last week, local Aboriginal families were plunged into mourning after an 18-year-old youth died when the stolen Toyota HiLux he was riding in rolled and crushed him. It was stolen from a caravan park on the outskirts of town, driven through a boom gate and taken for a joy ride.

On Saturday Detective Senior Sergeant Brendan Lindner said eight youths fled the scene, leaving their friend to die on the footpath. “They showed a callous disregard for their critically injured friend and fled the scene, abandoning the 18-year old who was lying on the road in significant pain and unable to move while against the vehicle, which was billowing smoke following the crash,” Mr Lindner said.  The young man who died was facing two counts of driving and using a vehicle without consent, and had been before the courts on four separate occasions. He was also the father of two-month-old.

A war between families who want “payback” against the driver and those who fled the vehicle has begun. Over the weekend the victim’s family moved out of town.



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Reply #2 - Mar 12th, 2024 at 3:48pm
 
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Reply #3 - Mar 13th, 2024 at 12:40pm
 
I'm sorry to tell you all, but under the current circumstances of war having been declared against Settlement Civilisation here - nothing about 'native title' is settled until the full terms and understandings of it are settled.

Native title is not freehold ownership of land, does not include rights to exclude others or to totally control that land specified, and doesn't even confer the right to build on it or anything similar.

This is a lose/lose for both sides of this question and must be resolved before any possible acceptance by anyone of such decisions goes ahead.

Ergo - there is nothing to celebrate and this title is still up in the air and may well be rejected by a future government, same as all other such 'titles'.

And that's not even touching the surface of this current set of lies being sold to the public, both Black and White and even Idiotic Wog.
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Reply #4 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 6:21am
 
Aboriginal people accused of crimes in Alice Springs have increasingly been forced to represent themselves in court following a mass exodus of staff from the country’s largest Indigenous legal service, the North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency. The departures have sparked renewed calls for more transparency around federal government funding for the embattled organisation.

The Alice Springs local court is like no other. Despite being at the heart of the nation, many defendants cannot speak English, let alone follow the legal intricacies of their cases. Translators can speak most of the different dialects but many of the concepts are foreign.  Judges do their best to explain criminal jargon to defendants by using language that is commonplace to them, such as substituting “charges” for “trouble”.  Children run around the noisy courthouse. Adults yell out. Many defendants are barefoot or simply wear socks. Dozens of people flow in and out every day; overworked lawyers frantically rush from courtroom to courtroom, and to and from the cells.

One Alice Springs lawyer recalled a day at the end of last year when the cells beneath the court were “like Mississippi in the 70s”.  “They were all screaming ‘lawyer, lawyer, lawyer’,” said the lawyer, who confessed to having broken down and cried.  Another lawyer described the cells as a “sea of black”.

“You go to a NSW prison, there’s a pretty big Aboriginal population, it’s very mixed. In the Territory, a non-Indigenous person is a minority, it’s rare,” the lawyer said.

A sign at the registry, which is almost always on display, reads: “Front counter closed today due to staff shortage.”  Those on the ground fear the system is on the brink of collapse, not just because of a severe shortage of permanent staff, but because the Territory’s crime crisis is pushing so many people into the justice system.

One fly-in lawyer from the east coast asked The Australian: “Why would anyone want to live here?”  There’s also a shortage of judges, adding to the pressure on the court system, with some having to be flown in from Darwin.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/this-situation-is-a-travesty-justice-not...


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50% of the NT is under native title.

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Reply #5 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 6:58am
 
In his first comments since Alice Springs became crippled under a catastrophic legal staffing shortage because of a mass exodus from the North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency, NT Chief Justice Michael Grant said it was commonplace for Aboriginal defendants who didn’t speak English to represent themselves in court, and they were regularly forced to make “pleas of convenience” just to get off remand.

His comments follow extensive reporting in The Australian about claims of corruption, fraud, bullying and drug use within the NAAJA. Amid these allegations, staff have left the organisation in droves, leaving it chronically short-staffed.

Chief Justice Grant said during his Opening of the Legal Term speech that at the most recent criminal directions hearings conducted in Alice Springs, there were 20 self-represented defendants, nearly all of whom “were remanded in custody and almost all of whom did not speak English as their first language”.

He said these self-represented defendants had not read the briefs filed against them by the prosecution “because the only means of contact was through a generic prison email address, which is entirely inadequate for the purpose of prosecution disclosure”.

“Even had the prosecution briefs been received, the defendants had no ability to properly review – or even read – that material, and no recourse to explanation or advice,” he said.

Chief Justice Grant said Alice Springs was struggling to attract “appropriately employed lawyers” because of several factors, including the “recent spate of negative reporting on social disorder in the town”. The inability to attract good talent was a “relatively recent phen­o­menon”, he said, encouraging those in metropolitan areas to come to central Australia to lend their services and reap the benefits of experience gained.

“Without seeking to understate the significance of difficulties … present in Alice Springs, the same professional satisfactions and advantages of practising in Alice Springs remain,” he said.

“It remains a unique and beautiful place to live – a place of stunning landscapes, a richly diverse community, a vibrant cultural scene. That is the message which as a profession and as a community we should be communicating about the attractions, advantages and satisfactions of legal aid work throughout the Northern Territory, and particularly in Alice Springs.”

NT Bar Association president Mary Chalmers SC told The Australian the mass exodus of NAAJA staff had left Legal Aid NT to cover “a critical lawyer shortage and (it had) had to prioritise certain client groups including children, people in custody for a first court mention, and people facing serious indictable charges”.

“As a result, many First Nations Territorians who do not speak Eng­lish as their first language are appearing unrepresented in the Local Court. This carries a real risk miscarriages of justice have occurred and are occurring,” she said. “It is important to note that the time taken in dealing with unrepresented defendants also creates a drain on scarce court, prosecutorial and police resources at a time when demands on those resources are increasing.”
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Reply #6 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:14am
 
Hardly a surprise to anyone who has seen a remote community.

Many of the peoples of these communities have a comprehension of modern human civilisation that matches similar remote hunter-gatherer peoples from anywhere else in the world.

In the Amazon regions for example, their respective governments manage this by simply making them no-go areas - no trespasser can expect to be aided by government organisations (e.g. police, army etc) if they find themselves in trouble.

The Indian government has the same policy for the Andaman Islands regions.

At least in the Amazon, the dense jungle makes these regions out-of-sight-out-of-mind. Not so easy in Australia.
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Reply #7 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:33am
 
What use is a Voice to Parliament if they don't even speak English even after two centuries.

Colonisation hasn't started properly, and never mind it ending too soon.

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Reply #8 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:49am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:33am:
What use is a Voice to Parliament if they don't even speak English even after two centuries.

The quick answer is that it would have been of no use.

The Voice to Parliament would have only been of use to urbanised Aboriginal peoples who had at least grown up in towns or cities.

The divide between peoples in remote communities and urbanised Aboriginal peoples is almost as great as that between urbanised Aboriginals and non-Aboriginals.
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Reply #9 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:31am
 
How would it be possible to explain a Voice to Parliament in terms that hunter-gatherer peoples would comprehend?

What is a parliament's equivalent through a hunter-gatherer's cultural lens?

Likely a sit-down of elders to determine courses of action that affect those concerned.

That is, crudely put, what a parliament is.
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Reply #10 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:45am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:14am:
Hardly a surprise to anyone who has seen a remote community.

Many of the peoples of these communities have a comprehension of modern human civilisation that matches similar remote hunter-gatherer peoples from anywhere else in the world.

In the Amazon regions for example, their respective governments manage this by simply making them no-go areas - no trespasser can expect to be aided by government organisations (e.g. police, army etc) if they find themselves in trouble.

The Indian government has the same policy for the Andaman Islands regions.

At least in the Amazon, the dense jungle makes these regions out-of-sight-out-of-mind. Not so easy in Australia.


I've mentioned to you before that that is not true ... The Andamans & Nicobar Islands rely heavily on tourism.

There is only one island in the whole group that is off limits/excluded to all outsiders ... and that's North Sentinel Island & the Sentilese people that live on it.
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Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:45am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:14am:
Hardly a surprise to anyone who has seen a remote community.

Many of the peoples of these communities have a comprehension of modern human civilisation that matches similar remote hunter-gatherer peoples from anywhere else in the world.

In the Amazon regions for example, their respective governments manage this by simply making them no-go areas - no trespasser can expect to be aided by government organisations (e.g. police, army etc) if they find themselves in trouble.

The Indian government has the same policy for the Andaman Islands regions.

At least in the Amazon, the dense jungle makes these regions out-of-sight-out-of-mind. Not so easy in Australia.


I've mentioned to you before that that is not true ... The Andamans & Nicobar Islands rely heavily on tourism.

There is only one island in the whole group that is off limits/excluded to all outsiders ... and that's North Sentinel Island & the Sentilese people that live on it.

So my point stands, then.
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Reply #12 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:47am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:49am:
Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:33am:
What use is a Voice to Parliament if they don't even speak English even after two centuries.

The quick answer is that it would have been of no use.

The Voice to Parliament would have only been of use to urbanised Aboriginal peoples who had at least grown up in towns or cities.

The divide between peoples in remote communities and urbanised Aboriginal peoples is almost as great as that between urbanised Aboriginals and non-Aboriginals.


Apart from skin tones what's there to divide them?


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Reply #13 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:50am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:46am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:45am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:14am:
Hardly a surprise to anyone who has seen a remote community.

Many of the peoples of these communities have a comprehension of modern human civilisation that matches similar remote hunter-gatherer peoples from anywhere else in the world.

In the Amazon regions for example, their respective governments manage this by simply making them no-go areas - no trespasser can expect to be aided by government organisations (e.g. police, army etc) if they find themselves in trouble.

The Indian government has the same policy for the Andaman Islands regions.

At least in the Amazon, the dense jungle makes these regions out-of-sight-out-of-mind. Not so easy in Australia.


I've mentioned to you before that that is not true ... The Andamans & Nicobar Islands rely heavily on tourism.

There is only one island in the whole group that is off limits/excluded to all outsiders ... and that's North Sentinel Island & the Sentilese people that live on it.

So my point stands, then.


No ... you inferred that the whole region was off limits.

There are 572 islands in the group - 38 are inhabited - one out of the 38 is off limits.

So 1 out of 572.
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Reply #14 - Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:51am
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 8:47am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:49am:
Frank wrote on Mar 14th, 2024 at 7:33am:
What use is a Voice to Parliament if they don't even speak English even after two centuries.

The quick answer is that it would have been of no use.

The Voice to Parliament would have only been of use to urbanised Aboriginal peoples who had at least grown up in towns or cities.

The divide between peoples in remote communities and urbanised Aboriginal peoples is almost as great as that between urbanised Aboriginals and non-Aboriginals.


Apart from skin tones what's there to divide them?



Many still have close ties to Aboriginal communities that may leave them conflicted, but at least comprehend, through descent and first-hand experience of, the divide.
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