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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10648 Gender:	Serious Societal Crimes Mar 13^th, 2024 at 12:03am "A Brisbane man who brutally bashed his parents repeatedly with a sledgehammer will serve at least 30 years behind bars." https://www.9news.com.au/national/brisbane-sledgehammer-murder-of-parents-sees-c... 2 x 30 = 60 ... But will only spend 30ys in jail for double murder
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10648 Gender:	Re: Serious Societal Crimes Reply #1 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 12:27am "Murder charge after man killed in car park in broad daylight with large knife on Gold Coast" "Shocked shoppers watched the scene unfold" https://www.9news.com.au/national/gold-coast-stabbing-man-dead-after-pulled-from... Plenty of witnesses by the sound of things
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AusGeoff

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Re: Serious Societal Crimes
Reply #2 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 1:08am

In my opinion, Australian jurisprudence needs a shake-up at
both State and Federal levels. Magistrates in particular are
handing down ridiculously light sentences for crimes such as
assault, aggravated burglary, armed robbery, gang violence
etc. And judges are directing juries, far too often, to find
criminals not guilty because of mitigating circumstances in the
criminal's life—poor families, abusive childhoods, drug or
alcohol dependence, acting under duress, unemployment etc.

And of of course, two life sentences should mean just that, or
as you say, twice a 30-year sentence for killing two people.
Concurrent sentencing is a nonsense, multiple sentences
should be aggregated.

Angry

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Reply #3 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 7:11am

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 13^th, 2024 at 1:08am:

In my opinion, Australian jurisprudence needs a shake-up at
both State and Federal levels.

Magistrates in particular are
handing down ridiculously light sentences for crimes such as
assault, aggravated burglary, armed robbery, gang violence
etc.

And judges are directing juries, far too often, to find
criminals not guilty because of mitigating circumstances in the
criminal's life—poor families, abusive childhoods, drug or
alcohol dependence, acting under duress, unemployment etc.

And of of course, two life sentences should mean just that, or
as you say, twice a 30-year sentence for killing two people.
Concurrent sentencing is a nonsense, multiple sentences
should be aggregated.

Angry

I agree.

But what can 'we the people' do about it ?

'We the people', have no 'directive authority' anymore, in society.

We do not live in 'representative democracies' [.....if we ever did !].

'Representative democracy', that description of our system of governance, is a misnomer.

misnomer = = a wrong or inaccurate name or term. the wrong use of a name or term.

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Deuteronomy 25:1 .......is wholly ignored in the justice systems of many modern, Western nations today.

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Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them;
then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.

Deuteronomy 27:25
Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #4 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 7:38am

Yadda wrote on Mar 13^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

.......I agree.

But what can 'we the people' do about it ?

'We the people', have no 'directive authority' anymore, in society.

We do not live in 'representative democracies' [.....if we ever did !].

'Representative democracy', that description of our system of governance, is a misnomer.

misnomer = = a wrong or inaccurate name or term. the wrong use of a name or term.

Many of us, who live in the 'First World' [where citizens are assumed to possess 'agency'], have become,
the victims and dupes of malevolent social 'influencers'.

And that, is you're own fault !!

dupe = =
v. deceive; trick.
n. a victim of deception.

Evidence to that argument......

Marco Rubio:
TikTok is literally reading your mind

08 min
date

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rG9J9ZFCE1o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG9J9ZFCE1o

Quote:

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., reacts to lobbyists trying to save the social media giant from a ban on 'The Ingraham Angle.'

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101786 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Serious Societal Crimes Reply #5 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 8:02am Bring back public hangings - outside the courthouses, broadcast live on TV in 4K video with closeups for all the ghouls.
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Jasin Moderator Offline Posts: 47293 Gender:	Re: Serious Societal Crimes Reply #6 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 9:38am I blame the 'Media's' influence and its 'crimes' against the New Worlds of N.Amerca, S.America & Australia from its Oceanian true self. Television. The drug of a nation. Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation.
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Re: Serious Societal Crimes
Reply #7 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 7:47pm

AusGeoff wrote on Mar 13^th, 2024 at 1:08am:

In my opinion, Australian jurisprudence needs a shake-up at
both State and Federal levels. Magistrates in particular are
handing down ridiculously light sentences for crimes such as
assault, aggravated burglary, armed robbery, gang violence
etc. And judges are directing juries, far too often, to find
criminals not guilty because of mitigating circumstances in the
criminal's life—poor families, abusive childhoods, drug or
alcohol dependence, acting under duress, unemployment etc.

And of of course, two life sentences should mean just that, or
as you say, twice a 30-year sentence for killing two people.
Concurrent sentencing is a nonsense, multiple sentences
should be aggregated.

Angry

I agree

This female government worker got 18 months suspended, and 30hrs community service, then free to go home after sentencing

She had access to names, she gave her boyfriend the name of a guy, so he could kidnap and torture him

Watch video for full understanding of the crime

https://www.9news.com.au/videos/national/woman-convicted-for-leaking-service-nsw...

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10648 Gender:	Re: Serious Societal Crimes Reply #8 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 7:58pm A man who stabbed a woman before fatally setting her alight in her backyard has been jailed for life . (20yrs) https://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-news-man-jailed-for-pure-evil-murde...
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10648 Gender:	Re: Serious Societal Crimes Reply #9 - Mar 13^th, 2024 at 8:10pm Australian officials have contacted Indian Police after a woman's body was found in a wheelie bin in Victoria. https://www.9news.com.au/videos/national/australian-officials-contact-indian-pol... The search goes on for the dead woman's husband who fled to India
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10648 Gender:	Re: Serious Societal Crimes Reply #10 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 7:05am New details about the life of murdered Melbourne underworld figure John Latorre have emerged as his links to the Calabrian mafia are uncovered. https://www.9news.com.au/national/victoria-news-details-of-murdered-underworld-f...
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Re: Serious Societal Crimes
Reply #11 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 3:12pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 13^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

...I agree.

But what can 'we the people' do about it ?

'We the people', have no 'directive authority' anymore, in society.

We do not live in representative democracies [.....if we ever did !].

'Representative democracy', that description of our system of governance, is a misnomer...

In a word... nothing.

The very first thing to disappear under a purported democracy is democracy itself.

Angry

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Reply #12 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 3:24pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 13^th, 2024 at 7:58pm:

A man who stabbed a woman before fatally setting her alight in her backyard has been jailed for life
. (20yrs)

https://www.9news.com.au/national/queensland-news-man-jailed-for-pure-evil-murde...

A mere 20 years for such a premeditated, heinous crime? Seriously?

Justice Peter Applegarth said he was "limited" by law in the sentence
he could impose. This is because in Queensland, 20 years is defined as
"life" imprisonment.

The available choice for the prosecution was to add an extra charge to
the murder charge—"unlawful striking causing death" for example, which in
itself attracts a 20-year life sentence. The assailant stabbed the victim
initially, plus then set her on fire. That's worth two charges is it not?

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Re: Serious Societal Crimes
Reply #13 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 3:59pm

In Thailand.
If you want to kill someone - vehicle 'accident' is what is commonly used.
If you run someone off the road and they die as 'accident'.
You pay a big fine.
If you run someone off the road and they live as 'accident'.
You pay a big fine and go to gaol.

Go figure?
A mate of mine who lived in Thailand for 15 years taught me this factor.
He was run off the road from upon his motorbike but did not die and suffered only a broken leg. The guy, who he knew - who committed the 'attempted' (murder) accident paid a big fine and also went to gaol for a few years.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10648 Gender:	Re: Serious Societal Crimes Reply #14 - Mar 14^th, 2024 at 8:57pm AusGeoff wrote on Mar 14^th, 2024 at 3:24pm: in Queensland, 20 years is defined as "life" imprisonment. Yes it's hardly "Life", it's only a 1/4 of one's life
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