Frank wrote on Mar 29
th, 2024 at 10:31am:
What, in your view, is the biggest misconception about China in the West?
That it is a "threat"?
Quote:The single biggest misconception is that you have a wicked government and a good people.
True.
Note: all 'peoples' are "good"; but governments can indeed be bad.
Quote: The Chinese have had 3,000 years for the government and the people to shape each other.
Chinese history, like the history of ALL other nations (especially technologically advancing ones), is
soaked in blood. Quote:The institution in the West that most closely resembles the Chinese system is, in fact, the Sicilian mafia.
Er.....a detour from fact, into ideology-based narrative.
Quote:Because they’re natural anarchists, they don’t like any form of government.
Er... the CCP IS China's government.
Quote:What holds a country of anarchists together, if not the emperor?
Rule by 50% + 1 of naturally competitve, self interested "anarchists"?
Quote:Therefore, it’s critical that the meritocracy be fair.
Indeed, on the path to "common prosperity".
Quote:So, all hope is not lost for the West when the Chinese ‘capo di tutti capi’ is educating his offspring in one of America’s Ivy League schools?
There is no hope for the world if it continues to be oppressed by powerful financial elites maximizing their own claims on the world's output.
Quote:Well, the one thing that we’re much better at than the Chinese is innovation.
Wasn't always the case, and won't be again: Silicon Valley is populated by Chinese, many of whom are choosing to stay home.
Quote: As I mentioned, Huawei is very much dependent on Western employees for innovation.
Huawei was one of the world's leading IT companies (including 5G). The West couldn't compete, so they banned it on trumped up "security" grounds.
Quote: I’m not saying the Chinese can’t innovate. During the Tang dynasty (618 to 906 A.D.), which is considered a golden age of Chinese arts and culture, the Chinese invented the clock, the compass, gunpowder, printing and, virtually, all of the elements of the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.
Indeed, as mentioned above.
Quote:However, the Chinese form of meritocracy, which is based on standardized exams, is the second-best way of running that meritocracy. Albert Einstein, who sat in the Swiss patent office because he couldn’t get a university job …
… and then invented the theory of relativity at his private home …
Right. This is unimaginable in China.
Wrong. Xi is urging private development in quality production.
Quote: If you ask the Chinese what worries them the most, many will say, “How come we have no Nobel prizes?” Eight Chinese have won the Nobel prize in sciences, but they are all Chinese who lived in America.
Chinese patents are rapidly overtaking the US.
Quote:The Chinese system is very bad at identifying those eccentrics, like an Einstein, who make fundamental contributions. We are much better at that. The Western idea of the divine spark in the individual simply doesn’t exist in China. So, I think we do have a chance against the Chinese.
Musk doesn't think so: he said the Chinese "juggernaut" will sweep all before it, without protection in global free markets.