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Reply #150 - Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:10am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:03am:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 9:27am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 4:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 3:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

TGD, how many claims would you say you have pushed on this forum that either support or have some kind of support from the CCP?

Dunno. You gonna tell me?

A lot.

Ta. Let's keep it secret shall we....

Meantime the deluded "freedom" goons are out in force, serving the purpose of your thread.

And you expect us to believe they are all just mere coincidences?

Yes. "they" - which you won't identify - might coincide, might not.

Fact is I consider the CCP are definitely making mistakes - though NOT the mistakes YOU think they are making.

(And Meister thinks I don't understand MMT......)

"They" are all the things you post here that either support or have some kind of support from the CCP. I would be happy to give you a bunch of examples.

What other mistakes do you think the CCP are making?

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #151 - Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:20am

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 9:25am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 8:56am:

Interesting that the CCP goons in the 'pianogate' clip claimed individual rights at least 20 times.

Yes, there is much confusion about individual rights on all sides, including in China.

Of course - if there is more than one naturally competitive, self-interested individual in the world, 'individual rights' are an absurdity, because such individuals must submit to rule of law, to avoid chaos.

The question is the quality/ability of the law to engender universal well-being.

Forcing the West's 'rules-based order' - based on delusional 'individual rights', will only create confusion all around the world.

Hence the Palestians are starving to death ...well done guys, did someone claim 'homo sapiens'?...

The CCP goons were using the tactic of deploying mangled legalese - which works in China under the CCP because the Chinese are not subject to the rule of law, they are subservient to the rule of the CCP which operates above the law.

The CCP protects their goons by subsequently 'legitimising' whatever drivel they spew up as 'quoting law' like 5-year-olds, with over-indulgent parents, dictating 'rules' in a sand pit.

What the CCP goons are not aware of is that Westerners are immune to mangled legalese.

'Pianogate' was a rare display outside China of what commonly occurs inside China.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #152 - Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:48am

John_Taverner wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 5:43pm:

Has anybody else being following Brendan Kavanagh on YouTube? The "Don't Touch her!" meme.

I think YouTube took down the original, but there are plenty of copies.

Here's a former Chinese resident pulling apart how these CCP shills operate & how brainwashed they are.

Alley from China says -

There's a CCP shill on here that should take this on board.

How the CCP operate against their own people & foreigners when their representatives/spies are overseas.

DECEIT
INCITING HATRED
PLAYING THE VICTIM
JUSTIFYING BEHAVIOUR
MAKING THREATS
PUTTING UP A FACADE

It's how they got rid of Falun Gong in China.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #153 - Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:52am

Gnads wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 9:48am:

churning out more poorly made products doesn't cut it.

The CCP vehicle manufacturers are all about quantity over quality.

And driven by the rise in Chinese manufacturing and labour costs making India and Southeast Asian nations, like Vietnam, more competitive.

To combat this, the Chinese have ramped up the cultural scourge of cha bu duo (if it looks good, it is good) - to keep the unit numbers high and the price cheap.

Do not buy anything Chinese-made that you expect to last for more than three months - i.e. T-shirts, yes, vehicles, no.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #154 - Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:53am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:01am:

Gnads wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 9:48am:

The ultimate in hypocrisy = you leveling that at anyone. Roll Eyes

RE: what China is producing & exporting in PVs & EVs....

churning out more poorly made products doesn't cut it.

The CCP vehicle manufacturers are all about quantity over quality.

Even the old Datsuns & Toyotas of the 70's were reliable, went for ever and parts readily available.

The same can't be said of this Chinese crap.

Of course, Gnads knows this because he owns a fleet of EVs.

This is the same criticism that was leveled against the Japanese in the 60s and 70s.

Gnads is an ignorant Queenslander, a feckless, useless kunt who aspires to become a useful idiot for anti-Chinese propagandists.

Speaking of kunts ... a dead kunt just arrived.

Are you also a CCP shill flog?

I already know you're an anti-Semitic pro-terrorist dead kunt ...

another feather in your cap? Grin

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #155 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 11:57am

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:10am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:03am:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 9:27am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 4:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 3:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

TGD, how many claims would you say you have pushed on this forum that either support or have some kind of support from the CCP?

Dunno. You gonna tell me?

A lot.

Ta. Let's keep it secret shall we....

Meantime the deluded "freedom" goons are out in force, serving the purpose of your thread.

And you expect us to believe they are all just mere coincidences?

Yes. "they" - which you won't identify - might coincide, might not.

Fact is I consider the CCP are definitely making mistakes - though NOT the mistakes YOU think they are making.

(And Meister thinks I don't understand MMT......)

"They" are all the things you post here that either support or have some kind of support from the CCP.

Support "from" the CCP? - there's your error right there; I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.

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I would be happy to give you a bunch of examples.

Please do.

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What other mistakes do you think the CCP are making?

They aren't maximizing China's potential to transition to a green economy and lift 700 million people into the middle class (achievable with Treasury and the PBofC operating via a MMT lens).

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #156 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:04pm

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Support "from" the CCP? - there's your error right there; I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.

Read what I posted again.

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Please do.

There are a bunch in the opening two posts of this thread.

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They aren't maximizing China's potential to transition to a green economy and lift 700 million people into the middle class (achievable with Treasury and the PBofC operating via a MMT lens).

So that's two things:
UN Veto
not enough use of MMT

Anything else?

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #157 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:04pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 11:57am:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:10am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:03am:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 9:27am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 8:51am:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 4:15pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 3:31pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 29^th, 2024 at 2:51pm:

TGD, how many claims would you say you have pushed on this forum that either support or have some kind of support from the CCP?

Dunno. You gonna tell me?

A lot.

Ta. Let's keep it secret shall we....

Meantime the deluded "freedom" goons are out in force, serving the purpose of your thread.

And you expect us to believe they are all just mere coincidences?

Yes. "they" - which you won't identify - might coincide, might not.

Fact is I consider the CCP are definitely making mistakes - though NOT the mistakes YOU think they are making.

(And Meister thinks I don't understand MMT......)

"They" are all the things you post here that either support or have some kind of support from the CCP.

Support "from" the CCP? - there's your error right there; I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.

Quote:

I would be happy to give you a bunch of examples.

Please do.

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What other mistakes do you think the CCP are making?

They aren't maximizing China's potential to transition to a green economy and lift 700 million people into the middle class (achievable with Treasury and the PBofC operating via a MMT lens).

You're a laugh a million ... or is that laugh a 700 million?

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #158 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:11pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:20am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 9:25am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 8:56am:

Interesting that the CCP goons in the 'pianogate' clip claimed individual rights at least 20 times.

Yes, there is much confusion about individual rights on all sides, including in China.

Of course - if there is more than one naturally competitive, self-interested individual in the world, 'individual rights' are an absurdity, because such individuals must submit to rule of law, to avoid chaos.

The question is the quality/ability of the law to engender universal well-being.

Forcing the West's 'rules-based order' - based on delusional 'individual rights', will only create confusion all around the world.

Hence the Palestians are starving to death ...well done guys, did someone claim 'homo sapiens'?...

The CCP goons were using the tactic of deploying mangled legalese -

Yes, I already explained why - like you, they are confused and paranoid about the West's "individual rights"/"freedom" delusion - which went straight over your head, being a deluded 'individual rights'/ 'freedom' ideologue.

Deplorable.

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which works in China under the CCP because the Chinese are not subject to the rule of law, they are subservient to the rule of the CCP which operates above the law.

More confusion: the CCP manages the rule of law according the principles of the Chinese constitution.

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What the CCP goons are not aware of is that Westerners are immune to mangled legalese.

But you are not immune to delusions re "natural individual rights".

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'Pianogate' was a rare display outside China of what commonly occurs inside China.

Groups of people don't walk around in China protesting cameras which may photograph them.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #159 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:16pm

freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:04pm:

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Support "from" the CCP? - there's your error right there; I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.

Read what I posted again.

Says the guy who incapable of reading posts...

"..or have some kind of support from the CCP".

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There are a bunch in the opening two posts of this thread.

I'll have a look ...geez, it's like pulling teeth...

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So that's two things:
UN Veto
not enough use of MMT

Anything else?

You said I can find others in the opening two posts....why do you ask?

Edit: you didn't answer my post #6; and yet you want me to wade through the ideological garbage in your opening two posts.

See the problem?

Morality, justice and fairness are not ideological garbage.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #160 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:24pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:20am:

[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1710901371/144#144 date=1711754712][quote author=MeisterEckhart link=1710901371/143#143 date=1711752961]
;quote]The CCP goons were using the tactic of deploying mangled legalese -

Yes, I already explained why - like you they are confusd and paranoid about the West's "individual roghts"/"freedom" delusion - which went straihgt over youyr head, being a deluded 'individual rights'/ 'freedom' ideologue.

Deplorble.

The CCP goons were not confused and paranoid about the West's individual rights or freedom at all.

What they were doing was using manglese to get their way, which was to claim their 'right' to prevent their images from being broadcast.

As it turns out, though, they were paranoid about something - they were required to make their own broadcast appear live for the CCP's Chinese New Year show which was being broadcast in China the next day.

They mistook Westerners for local Chinese people who are conditioned to cower to CCP goons and their manglese.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #161 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:33pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:11pm:

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which works in China under the CCP because the Chinese are not subject to the rule of law, they are subservient to the rule of the CCP which operates above the law.

More confusion: the CCP manages the rule of law according the principles of the Chinese constitution.

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'Pianogate' was a rare display outside China of what commonly occurs inside China.

Groups of people don't walk around in China protesting cameras which may photograph them.

The CCP manages and mangles law in whatever fashion the immediate situation requires to achieve its ends.

Anyone who visits China learns quickly that police, officials and CCP goons will concoct 'laws' on the spot to manipulate people. Foreigners are warned not to question them as the CCP's legal and justice systems will support its officials and goons without regard to the truth or falsity of their manglese.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #162 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:36pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:24pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:20am:

[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1710901371/144#144 date=1711754712][quote author=MeisterEckhart link=1710901371/143#143 date=1711752961]
;quote]The CCP goons were using the tactic of deploying mangled legalese -

Yes, I already explained why - like you they are confusd and paranoid about the West's "individual roghts"/"freedom" delusion - which went straihgt over youyr head, being a deluded 'individual rights'/ 'freedom' ideologue.

Deplorable.

The CCP goons were not confused and paranoid about the West's individual rights or freedom at all.

What they were doing was using manglese to get their way, which was to claim their 'right' to prevent their images from being broadcast.

And why was that officious goon so concerned about his group being caught on camera?

Answer: paranoia - like the paranoia behind the West's "China threat" theory.

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As it turns out, though, they were paranoid about something - they were required to make their own broadcast appear live for the CCP's Chinese New Year show which was being broadcast in China the next day.

And?....

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They mistook Westerners for local Chinese people who are conditioned to cower to CCP goons and their mangleses

....but the officious bastard wasn't "cowering", he was using 'manglese' (your words) to demand the camera be turned off.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #163 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:42pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:11pm:

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which works in China under the CCP because the Chinese are not subject to the rule of law, they are subservient to the rule of the CCP which operates above the law.

More confusion: the CCP manages the rule of law according the principles of the Chinese constitution.

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'Pianogate' was a rare display outside China of what commonly occurs inside China.

Groups of people don't walk around in China protesting cameras which may photograph them.

The CCP manages and mangles law in whatever fashion the immediate situation requires to achieve its ends.

And what "CCP ends" was the officious goon achieving?

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Anyone who visits China learns quickly that police, officials and CCP goons will concoct 'laws' on the spot to manipulate people. Foreigners are warned not to question them as the CCP's legal and justice systems will support its officials and goons without regard to the truth or falsity of their manglese.

That's corruption. Don't look in the mirror, some Oz cops are less than upright...

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #164 - Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:48pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:36pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:24pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31^st, 2024 at 12:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30^th, 2024 at 10:20am:

[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1710901371/144#144 date=1711754712][quote author=MeisterEckhart link=1710901371/143#143 date=1711752961]
;quote]The CCP goons were using the tactic of deploying mangled legalese -

Yes, I already explained why - like you they are confusd and paranoid about the West's "individual roghts"/"freedom" delusion - which went straihgt over youyr head, being a deluded 'individual rights'/ 'freedom' ideologue.

Deplorable.

The CCP goons were not confused and paranoid about the West's individual rights or freedom at all.

What they were doing was using manglese to get their way, which was to claim their 'right' to prevent their images from being broadcast.

And why was that officious goon so concerned about his group being caught on camera?

Answer: paranoia - like the paranoia behind the West's "China threat" theory.

He was paranoid that, if Kavanagh uploaded his video before Chinese New Year and it was noticed by Chinese people, it would be obvious that their own filming was not live when it was aired the next day on Chinese TV.

Of course, what the goons were unaware of was that Kavanagh was broadcasting live so it was already too late.

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