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Reply #166 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:54pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:42pm:
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Anyone who visits China learns quickly that police, officials and CCP goons will concoct 'laws' on the spot to manipulate people. Foreigners are warned not to question them as the CCP's legal and justice systems will support its officials and goons without regard to the truth or falsity of their manglese.


That's corruption. Don't look in the mirror, some Oz cops are less than upright...

That's right, and if it went before a court in Australia, the cop would be charged with making a false arrest by perverting the course of justice.

The difference being that in China under the CCP neither Chinese people nor foreigners will be able to use that as a defense in a Chinese court.
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Reply #167 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 1:12pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:16pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:04pm:
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Support "from" the CCP?  - there's your error right there;  I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.   


Read what I posted again.


Says the guy who incapable of reading posts...


"..or have some kind of support from the CCP".


You are halfway to what I actually posted.

Of course the CCP supports you parroting their propaganda.
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Reply #168 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:29pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:48pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:36pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:24pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:11pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:20am:
[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1710901371/144#144 date=1711754712][quote author=MeisterEckhart link=1710901371/143#143 date=1711752961]
;quote]The CCP goons were using the tactic of deploying mangled legalese -


Yes, I already explained why - like you they are confusd and  paranoid about the West's  "individual roghts"/"freedom" delusion -  which went straihgt over youyr head, being  a deluded  'individual rights'/ 'freedom' ideologue.

Deplorable.

The CCP goons were not confused and paranoid about the West's individual rights or freedom at all.

What they were doing was using manglese to get their way, which was to claim their 'right' to prevent their images from being broadcast.


And why was that officious goon so concerned about his group being caught on camera?

Answer: paranoia -  like the paranoia behind the West's "China threat" theory. 


He was paranoid that, if Kavanagh uploaded his video before Chinese New Year and it was noticed by Chinese people, it would be obvious that their own filming was not live when it was aired the next day on Chinese TV.


(?? .....of course any film recording won't be live, if it was  recorded the previous day..)

ok....paranoid, indeed. There's a lot of it about these days, including among "China threat" "security" goons whose trick is to accuse China of cyber attacks when the greatest cyber eaves-droppers in the world are the CIA. 

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Of course, what the goons were unaware of was that Kavanagh was broadcasting live so it was already too late.


I still don't understand the basis of his paranoia in this  incident  (with Dr K).

Why is it a problem if Dr. K's live performance, which happened to capture a Chinese group, was seen by Chinese people back home, at the time of the performance?
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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #169 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:35pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 1:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:16pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:04pm:
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Support "from" the CCP?  - there's your error right there;  I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.   


Read what I posted again.


Says the guy who incapable of reading posts...


"..or have some kind of support from the CCP".


You are halfway to what I actually posted.

Of course the CCP supports you parroting their propaganda.


I wish they would contact me and let me know....

I would certainly offer some free advice, re implementing 'common prosperity'.

Western power elites aren't interested in 'common prosperity'; classical economics serves to prevent common prosperity - for the benefit of those same power elites.
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Reply #170 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:36pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:35pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 1:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:16pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:04pm:
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Support "from" the CCP?  - there's your error right there;  I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.   


Read what I posted again.


Says the guy who incapable of reading posts...


"..or have some kind of support from the CCP".


You are halfway to what I actually posted.

Of course the CCP supports you parroting their propaganda.


I wish they would contact me and let me know....

I would certainly offer some free advice, re implementing 'common prosperity'.



You get what you pay for.
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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #171 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:38pm
 
Is no CCP China - is no threat .............................. no problem.  Chinese people good - Chinese government Numbah Ten!!


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Reply #172 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:35pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 1:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:16pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:04pm:
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Support "from" the CCP?  - there's your error right there;  I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.   


Read what I posted again.


Says the guy who incapable of reading posts...


"..or have some kind of support from the CCP".


You are halfway to what I actually posted.

Of course the CCP supports you parroting their propaganda.


I wish they would contact me and let me know....

I would certainly offer some free advice, re implementing 'common prosperity'.



You get what you pay for.


The CCP aren't paying me for my "support" , and I'm not paying them for borrowing/promoting  the concept of 'common prosperity'. 
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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #173 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:46pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:41pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:36pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:35pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 1:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:16pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:04pm:
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Support "from" the CCP?  - there's your error right there;  I support common prosperity, the CCP don't "support" me.   


Read what I posted again.


Says the guy who incapable of reading posts...


"..or have some kind of support from the CCP".


You are halfway to what I actually posted.

Of course the CCP supports you parroting their propaganda.


I wish they would contact me and let me know....

I would certainly offer some free advice, re implementing 'common prosperity'.



You get what you pay for.


The CCP aren't paying me for my "support" , and I'm not paying them for borrowing/promoting  the concept of 'common prosperity'. 


You are correct.
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Reply #174 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
....They do not appear to be making any great effort to convince you of anything (or even understand what others are saying). Rather, they appear to be merely making the propaganda available to Chinese people so that they see the same thing on foreign websites and (hopefully) do not dig too far behind it.


Surely that rules me out; I'm doing my level best to expose the basis of your "individual rights" delusions which turn the CCP system into a "threat". 
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Reply #175 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 3:00pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:29pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:48pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:36pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:24pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:11pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:20am:
[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1710901371/144#144 date=1711754712][quote author=MeisterEckhart link=1710901371/143#143 date=1711752961]
;quote]The CCP goons were using the tactic of deploying mangled legalese -


Yes, I already explained why - like you they are confusd and  paranoid about the West's  "individual roghts"/"freedom" delusion -  which went straihgt over youyr head, being  a deluded  'individual rights'/ 'freedom' ideologue.

Deplorable.

The CCP goons were not confused and paranoid about the West's individual rights or freedom at all.

What they were doing was using manglese to get their way, which was to claim their 'right' to prevent their images from being broadcast.


And why was that officious goon so concerned about his group being caught on camera?

Answer: paranoia -  like the paranoia behind the West's "China threat" theory. 


He was paranoid that, if Kavanagh uploaded his video before Chinese New Year and it was noticed by Chinese people, it would be obvious that their own filming was not live when it was aired the next day on Chinese TV.


(?? .....of course any film recording won't be live, if it was  recorded the previous day..)

ok....paranoid, indeed. There's a lot of it about these days, including among "China threat" "security" goons whose trick is to accuse China of cyber attacks when the greatest cyber eaves-droppers in the world are the CIA. 

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Of course, what the goons were unaware of was that Kavanagh was broadcasting live so it was already too late.


I still don't understand the basis of his paranoia in this  incident  (with Dr K).

Why is it a problem if Dr. K's live performance, which happened to capture a Chinese group, was seen by Chinese people back home, at the time of the performance?

The CCP stages and broadcasts a huge live event for Chinese New Year's (CNY).

Part of that includes live crossings to places around the world showing the mainland Chinese people that the world celebrates CNY and loves the CCP.

CCP goons around the world stage 'live' events, but filmed a day or two before, where 'random' people are interviewed, many of whom are prompted to misstate the date of filming to have it coincide with CNY day creating the illusion that the event is live.

The goons initially were going to include Dr K in their propaganda and, before the fiasco, they had one of their goons play the piano with him.

However, they suddenly realised that Dr K's partner was recording the event and that's when their mood went south. They tried to have Dr K stop filming and delete the content.

The goons panicked when Dr K refused (he was broadcasting it live anyway); they broke into manglese and claimed individual rights to image privacy.
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Reply #176 - Mar 31st, 2024 at 3:02pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:49pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
....They do not appear to be making any great effort to convince you of anything (or even understand what others are saying). Rather, they appear to be merely making the propaganda available to Chinese people so that they see the same thing on foreign websites and (hopefully) do not dig too far behind it.


Surely that rules me out; I'm doing my level best to expose the basis of your "individual rights" delusions which turn the CCP system into a "threat". 


Who have you convinced so far?
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Reply #177 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:22am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 3:00pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:29pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:48pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:36pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:24pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 12:11pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 30th, 2024 at 10:20am:
[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1710901371/144#144 date=1711754712][quote author=MeisterEckhart link=1710901371/143#143 date=1711752961]
;quote]The CCP goons were using the tactic of deploying mangled legalese -


Yes, I already explained why - like you they are confusd and  paranoid about the West's  "individual roghts"/"freedom" delusion -  which went straihgt over youyr head, being  a deluded  'individual rights'/ 'freedom' ideologue.

Deplorable.

The CCP goons were not confused and paranoid about the West's individual rights or freedom at all.

What they were doing was using manglese to get their way, which was to claim their 'right' to prevent their images from being broadcast.


And why was that officious goon so concerned about his group being caught on camera?

Answer: paranoia -  like the paranoia behind the West's "China threat" theory. 


He was paranoid that, if Kavanagh uploaded his video before Chinese New Year and it was noticed by Chinese people, it would be obvious that their own filming was not live when it was aired the next day on Chinese TV.


(?? .....of course any film recording won't be live, if it was  recorded the previous day..)

ok....paranoid, indeed. There's a lot of it about these days, including among "China threat" "security" goons whose trick is to accuse China of cyber attacks when the greatest cyber eaves-droppers in the world are the CIA. 

Quote:
Of course, what the goons were unaware of was that Kavanagh was broadcasting live so it was already too late.


I still don't understand the basis of his paranoia in this  incident  (with Dr K).

Why is it a problem if Dr. K's live performance, which happened to capture a Chinese group, was seen by Chinese people back home, at the time of the performance?

The CCP stages and broadcasts a huge live event for Chinese New Year's (CNY).


In all the 'Chinatowns' in cities around the world?   

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Part of that includes live crossings to places around the world showing the mainland Chinese people that the world celebrates CNY and loves the CCP.


BS. The Chinese people already know the CCP  is hated in the West; and Chinese mainlanders are rapidly losing their former admiration for the US, shocked by the US Capitol riots.   

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CCP goons around the world stage 'live' events, but filmed a day or two before, where 'random' people are interviewed, many of whom are prompted to misstate the date of filming to have it coincide with CNY day creating the illusion that the event is live.


'Random' overseas Chinese, many of whom are deluded "freedom" ideologues?

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The goons initially were going to include Dr K in their propaganda and, before the fiasco, they had one of their goons play the piano with him.

However, they suddenly realised that Dr K's partner was recording the event and that's when their mood went south. They tried to have Dr K stop filming and delete the content.


Why? How does a duet with Dr K show the Chinese people back home that the world loves the CCP, regardless of whether the duet appeared to happen  on CNY or not?

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The goons panicked when Dr K refused (he was broadcasting it live anyway); they broke into manglese and claimed individual rights to image privacy.


Proving my point: the 'individual rights' delusion is (naturally!) still alive and kicking in China.  Education is needed to overcome that delusion in China and the West.   
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Reply #178 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:28am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 3:02pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Mar 31st, 2024 at 2:49pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
....They do not appear to be making any great effort to convince you of anything (or even understand what others are saying). Rather, they appear to be merely making the propaganda available to Chinese people so that they see the same thing on foreign websites and (hopefully) do not dig too far behind it.


Surely that rules me out; I'm doing my level best to expose the basis of your "individual rights" delusions which turn the CCP system into a "threat". 


Who have you convinced so far?


I don't know, but the truth always eventually emerges, in human affairs.

See Jeremy Griffiths' (of WTM):  "the human psychosis".
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Reply #179 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am
 
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?
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