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Reply #180 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:36am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


No coincidence.
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Reply #182 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain or any polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...
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Reply #183 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:58am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...


You don't just defend their policies. You defend their actions. You parrot their propaganda.

All just a coincidence?
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Reply #184 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain or any polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...



Who is that 'I in spirit' if not an individual??

You pretend to be against individuals yet you always speak about your own wonderful 'Marxist spiritual' ( Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)  individuality.



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Reply #185 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:58am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...


You don't just defend their policies. You defend their actions. You parrot their propaganda.

All just a coincidence?


1. Their's is a Marxist constitution, which I defend.

2. I don't defend their secrecy, born out of paranoia about delusional 'individual rights'.  Assange was similarly  crucified in the West, on 'secrecy' grounds. 

3. You - being deluded by 'shared belief' in non-existent "natural individual rights" -  and claiming to recognize political propaganda, is an oxymoron. 

   
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Reply #186 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:13am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:58am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...


You don't just defend their policies. You defend their actions. You parrot their propaganda.

All just a coincidence?


1. Their's is a Marxist constitution, which I defend.

2. I don't defend their secrecy, born out of paranoia about delusional 'individual rights'.  Assange was similarly  crucified in the West, on 'secrecy' grounds. 

3. You - being deluded by 'shared belief' in non-existent "natural individual rights" -  and claiming to recognize political propaganda, is an oxymoron.     


Your efforts to make it appear that Australia has more people below the poverty line than China - is that

a) CCP policy
b) CCP actions
c) CCP propaganda

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Reply #187 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:17am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain or any polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...



Who is that 'I in spirit' if not an individual??


Your classic fallacy of composition, as always.

I'm an individual, but I support the Marxist collective, in 'spirit'.   

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You pretend to be against individuals yet you always speak about your own wonderful 'Marxist spiritual' ( Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)  individuality.


More fallacy of composition: "freedom" lizard-brain individuals are NOT the Marxist collective in spirit.




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Reply #188 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:24am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:58am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...


You don't just defend their policies. You defend their actions. You parrot their propaganda.

All just a coincidence?


1. Their's is a Marxist constitution, which I defend.

2. I don't defend their secrecy, born out of paranoia about delusional 'individual rights'.  Assange was similarly  crucified in the West, on 'secrecy' grounds. 

3. You - being deluded by 'shared belief' in non-existent "natural individual rights" -  and claiming to recognize political propaganda, is an oxymoron. 

   


Who are those you are referring to, the I and the you, if not individuals?
And as individuals - they, you, I - do we have no right to express our particular views?
You rail, idiotically, against individual right yet you assert your own with every utterance.

Why? Because you have zero insight into or understanding of the shallow, stupid slogans you parrot.
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Reply #189 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:28am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:13am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:58am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...


You don't just defend their policies. You defend their actions. You parrot their propaganda.

All just a coincidence?


1. Their's is a Marxist constitution, which I defend.

2. I don't defend their secrecy, born out of paranoia about delusional 'individual rights'.  Assange was similarly  crucified in the West, on 'secrecy' grounds. 

3. You - being deluded by 'shared belief' in non-existent "natural individual rights" -  and claiming to recognize political propaganda, is an oxymoron.     


Your efforts to make it appear that Australia has more people below the poverty line than China


(sigh) that is NOT my concern, which is to show 'common prosperity' is achievable, using the CCP's example of eradicating poverty at the fastest rate in history, while Oz if going backwards, shutting an entire generation out of home ownership.   

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- is that

a) CCP policy
b) CCP actions
c) CCP propaganda


a) - yes

b) - sometimes

c) - no.


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Reply #190 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:29am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain or any polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...



Who is that 'I in spirit' if not an individual??


Your classic fallacy of composition, as always.

I'm an individual, but I support the Marxist collective, in 'spirit'.   

Quote:
You pretend to be against individuals yet you always speak about your own wonderful 'Marxist spiritual' ( Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)  individuality.


More fallacy of composition: "freedom" lizard-brain individuals are NOT the Marxist collective in spirit.






So if a regime persecuted you for your political views you'd be happy about it because you would recognise immediately that your asserting your individual rights to your own views against the regime's collective views would a fallacy of composition on your part and so you would instantly side with the regime against yourself.



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Reply #191 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:33am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:24am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:58am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...


You don't just defend their policies. You defend their actions. You parrot their propaganda.

All just a coincidence?


1. Their's is a Marxist constitution, which I defend.

2. I don't defend their secrecy, born out of paranoia about delusional 'individual rights'.  Assange was similarly  crucified in the West, on 'secrecy' grounds. 

3. You - being deluded by 'shared belief' in non-existent "natural individual rights" -  and claiming to recognize political propaganda, is an oxymoron. 

   


Who are those you are referring to, the I and the you, if not individuals?
And as individuals - they, you, I - do we have no right to express our particular views?
You rail, idiotically, against individual right yet you assert your own with every utterance.

Why? Because you have zero insight into or understanding of the shallow, stupid slogans you parrot.


Answered in #187.

You can't answer it?

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Reply #192 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:39am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:29am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain or any polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...



Who is that 'I in spirit' if not an individual??


Your classic fallacy of composition, as always.

I'm an individual, but I support the Marxist collective, in 'spirit'.   

Quote:
You pretend to be against individuals yet you always speak about your own wonderful 'Marxist spiritual' ( Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)  individuality.


More fallacy of composition: "freedom" lizard-brain individuals are NOT the Marxist collective in spirit.


So if a regime persecuted you for your political views you'd be happy about it because you would recognise immediately that your asserting your individual rights to your own views against the regime's collective views would a fallacy of composition on your part and so you would instantly side with the regime against yourself.


Ah, so you did get to answering #187. Good.

BUT - oh dear - your  almost incomprehensible word salad above is the result, again your fallacy of composition: I'm not the collective, regardless of my views.   

To repeat, the spirit of the Marxist collective IS the spirit of humanity to thrive and prosper, not to destroy 'individual  rights' in insane wars.
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Reply #193 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:42am
 
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2. I don't defend their secrecy, born out of paranoia about delusional 'individual rights'.


You do that every time you parrot the moronic claim that individual rights are an illusion.
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Reply #194 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:43am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:22am:
The CCP stages and broadcasts a huge live event for Chinese New Year's (CNY).

In all the 'Chinatowns' in cities around the world?   

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Part of that includes live crossings to places around the world showing the mainland Chinese people that the world celebrates CNY and loves the CCP.


BS. The Chinese people already know the CCP  is hated in the West; and Chinese mainlanders are rapidly losing their former admiration for the US, shocked by the US Capitol riots.   

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CCP goons around the world stage 'live' events, but filmed a day or two before, where 'random' people are interviewed, many of whom are prompted to misstate the date of filming to have it coincide with CNY day creating the illusion that the event is live.


'Random' overseas Chinese, many of whom are deluded "freedom" ideologues?

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The goons initially were going to include Dr K in their propaganda and, before the fiasco, they had one of their goons play the piano with him.

However, they suddenly realised that Dr K's partner was recording the event and that's when their mood went south. They tried to have Dr K stop filming and delete the content.


Why? How does a duet with Dr K show the Chinese people back home that the world loves the CCP, regardless of whether the duet appeared to happen  on CNY or not?

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The goons panicked when Dr K refused (he was broadcasting it live anyway); they broke into manglese and claimed individual rights to image privacy.


Proving my point: the 'individual rights' delusion is (naturally!) still alive and kicking in China.  Education is needed to overcome that delusion in China and the West.   

Yes, CNY is the major celebration for Chinese people worldwide, as Christmas is in the West.

The CCP is obsessed with projecting the image of admiration for it outside China and in broadcasting that to mainland Chinese.

The point of the events that the broadcasters throw to around the world is that they are live and therefore are not staged, such that the random people interviewed on the street appear to spontaneously praise Chinese people and the CCP. To ensure there's no embarrassing condemnation of the CCP broadcast live, these so-called live events are pre-recorded and the 'spontaneous' responses are scripted.

The goons had planned to have Dr K and one of their own in a duet showing that Chinese people are loved worldwide and, likely, a positive plug for the CCP and the Chinese economy would be scripted in.

When the goons realised Dr K's partner was recording the interaction, they realised that their so-called live event which they would have filmed for broadcasting later would already be out there as having occurred 2 days before - thus exposing the lie of the 'live' event.

Hence the goons' panic, tantrum-throwing and their claiming of individual rights.
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