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Reply #195 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:48am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:29am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain or any polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...



Who is that 'I in spirit' if not an individual??


Your classic fallacy of composition, as always.

I'm an individual, but I support the Marxist collective, in 'spirit'.   

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You pretend to be against individuals yet you always speak about your own wonderful 'Marxist spiritual' ( Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)  individuality.


More fallacy of composition: "freedom" lizard-brain individuals are NOT the Marxist collective in spirit.


So if a regime persecuted you for your political views you'd be happy about it because you would recognise immediately that your asserting your individual rights to your own views against the regime's collective views would a fallacy of composition on your part and so you would instantly side with the regime against yourself.


Ah, so you did get to answering #187. Good.

BUT - oh dear - your  almost incomprehensible word salad above is the result, again your fallacy of composition: I'm not the collective, regardless of my views.   

It is your word salad, idiot. I am applying your idiocy to you.

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Reply #196 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:51am
 
I wouldn't call the USA as 'the West'.
They are more like Blue Northern and Grey Southern Europe claiming to be White 'Western' Europe - which they're not.

USA ditched the real 'Western' way of Politics when they ditched the British remember.
They took on a more Roman/Greek ancient form of Politics culturally for starters - anything but 'British'.

Ironically in Europe - its British Politics that has prevailed with Germany's failed and soon France and Italy's after.

This is why China and Russia will never bend the knee 'Politically' to USA - they are a 'FAKE' Western nation. Nothing more than an 'Actor' than Politician.

...and this is why 'things are not working out'. Tongue


But as Australians - you are all too gutless and weak to say this because you 'fear' reprisal from an America in denial.
That's natural. So you just keep sucking American dick.  Wink
Which is why Australia is known as the American 'dog' and chewy-gum under shoe. Grin
Look at Albanese - there's a scared rabbit in front of headlights if ever there was one.
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Reply #197 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:57am
 
Further to the fiasco with Dr K, the older female CCP goon turned out to be Christine Lee, a Chinese lawyer and CCP spy whom MI5 issued a public warning about after the 'pianogate' incident went public.
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Reply #198 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:58am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:42am:
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2. I don't defend their secrecy, born out of paranoia about delusional 'individual rights'.


You do that every time you parrot the moronic claim that individual rights are an illusion.


They ARE an illusion, maintained by the 'human psychosis' - google Jeremy Griffith's WTM, if you don't want to consider my explanation.


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Reply #199 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:03pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:48am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:29am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:09am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:57am:
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:32am:
Do you expect us to believe that all the posts you make in support or defence of the CCP are just a coincidence?


Yes. Any similarity of my views with certain or any polices of the CCP are a coincidence.

I'm a Marxist in spirit, remember...



Who is that 'I in spirit' if not an individual??


Your classic fallacy of composition, as always.

I'm an individual, but I support the Marxist collective, in 'spirit'.   

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You pretend to be against individuals yet you always speak about your own wonderful 'Marxist spiritual' ( Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy)  individuality.


More fallacy of composition: "freedom" lizard-brain individuals are NOT the Marxist collective in spirit.


So if a regime persecuted you for your political views you'd be happy about it because you would recognise immediately that your asserting your individual rights to your own views against the regime's collective views would a fallacy of composition on your part and so you would instantly side with the regime against yourself.


Ah, so you did get to answering #187. Good.

BUT - oh dear - your  almost incomprehensible word salad above is the result, again your fallacy of composition: I'm not the collective, regardless of my views.   

It is your word salad, idiot. I am applying your idiocy to you.


If there is more than one naturally competitive, self-interested individual in the world....

Where's the word salad in that?
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Reply #200 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:06pm
 
Each of your posts is a bowl. The salad goes in the bowl.
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Reply #201 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:06pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:58am:
They ARE an illusion, maintained by the 'human psychosis' - google Jeremy Griffith's WTM, if you don't want to consider my explanation.

Unless you also accept that law is an illusion, as are cultural customs, as are manners, as are politics, as is everything that is predicated on the question, 'how should we live?' is an illusion, then to say that individual rights are specifically an illusion, is meaningless.
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Reply #202 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:06pm:
Each of your posts is a bowl. The salad goes in the bowl.


Now you are showing your incompetence.

"If there is more than one naturally competitive, self-interested individual in the world...."

check

Too many adjectives for you?

"then rule of law is needed to avoid war."

ie, war between nations of competitive individuals.

Otherwise there is/can be no "right to life", certainly not of the individuals who will die in these endless wars, and possibly even of the species, in the age of MAD (in an extinction event).   


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Reply #203 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:54pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:06pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:58am:
They ARE an illusion, maintained by the 'human psychosis' - google Jeremy Griffith's WTM, if you don't want to consider my explanation.

Unless you also accept that law is an illusion, as are cultural customs, as are manners, as are politics, as is everything that is predicated on the question, 'how should we live?' is an illusion, then to say that individual rights are specifically an illusion, is meaningless.


Your error there: law is not an illusion, it is created and designed by men with a purpose in mind (collective security, or whatever).

Whereas cultural customs are  based on 'dreamtime' mythological stories.

Hence your question "how should we live" remains a serious question demanding an answer.   
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Reply #204 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 1:04pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:54pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:06pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:58am:
They ARE an illusion, maintained by the 'human psychosis' - google Jeremy Griffith's WTM, if you don't want to consider my explanation.

Unless you also accept that law is an illusion, as are cultural customs, as are manners, as are politics, as is everything that is predicated on the question, 'how should we live?' is an illusion, then to say that individual rights are specifically an illusion, is meaningless.


Your error there: law is not an illusion, it is created and designed by men with a purpose in mind (collective security, or whatever).

Whereas cultural customs are  based on 'dreamtime' mythological stories.

Hence your question "how should we live" remains a serious question demanding an answer.   

Point to law.

Is it grown and harvested, or dug up?

Can I buy a half kilo of it?
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Reply #205 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 2:26pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 1:04pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:54pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:06pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:58am:
They ARE an illusion, maintained by the 'human psychosis' - google Jeremy Griffith's WTM, if you don't want to consider my explanation.

Unless you also accept that law is an illusion, as are cultural customs, as are manners, as are politics, as is everything that is predicated on the question, 'how should we live?' is an illusion, then to say that individual rights are specifically an illusion, is meaningless.


Your error there: law is not an illusion, it is created and designed by men with a purpose in mind (collective security, or whatever).

Whereas cultural customs are  based on 'dreamtime' mythological stories.

Hence your question "how should we live" remains a serious question demanding an answer.   


Point to law.


Rule of Law itself is a concept (to avoid chaos among self-interested individuals), with the laws themselves written down on "pieces of paper",  in Constitutions.

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Is it grown and harvested, or dug up?

Can I buy a half kilo of it?


See above.

Interestingly your money delusions are similar: numbers on pieces of paper (or digits in computers) indicating exchange value; can you"grow and harvest, dig up, or buy a half kilo of money?"
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Reply #206 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 2:37pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 2:26pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 1:04pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:54pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 12:06pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:58am:
They ARE an illusion, maintained by the 'human psychosis' - google Jeremy Griffith's WTM, if you don't want to consider my explanation.

Unless you also accept that law is an illusion, as are cultural customs, as are manners, as are politics, as is everything that is predicated on the question, 'how should we live?' is an illusion, then to say that individual rights are specifically an illusion, is meaningless.


Your error there: law is not an illusion, it is created and designed by men with a purpose in mind (collective security, or whatever).

Whereas cultural customs are  based on 'dreamtime' mythological stories.

Hence your question "how should we live" remains a serious question demanding an answer.   


Point to law.


Rule of Law itself is a concept (to avoid chaos among self-interested individuals), with the laws themselves written down on "pieces of paper",  in Constitutions.

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Is it grown and harvested, or dug up?

Can I buy a half kilo of it?


See above.

Interestingly your money delusions are similar: numbers on pieces of paper (or digits in computers) indicating exchange value; can you"grow and harvest, dig up, or buy a half kilo of money?"

So law and individual rights arise from the same place and under the same circumstances.

Of course individual rights cannot be recognised in totalitarian states, they can only arise and be valued among states and societies whose citizens accept and impose limits to power.
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Reply #207 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:43pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 11:43am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 10:22am:
The CCP stages and broadcasts a huge live event for Chinese New Year's (CNY).

In all the 'Chinatowns' in cities around the world?   

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Part of that includes live crossings to places around the world showing the mainland Chinese people that the world celebrates CNY and loves the CCP.


BS. The Chinese people already know the CCP  is hated in the West; and Chinese mainlanders are rapidly losing their former admiration for the US, shocked by the US Capitol riots.   

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CCP goons around the world stage 'live' events, but filmed a day or two before, where 'random' people are interviewed, many of whom are prompted to misstate the date of filming to have it coincide with CNY day creating the illusion that the event is live.


'Random' overseas Chinese, many of whom are deluded "freedom" ideologues?

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The goons initially were going to include Dr K in their propaganda and, before the fiasco, they had one of their goons play the piano with him.

However, they suddenly realised that Dr K's partner was recording the event and that's when their mood went south. They tried to have Dr K stop filming and delete the content.


Why? How does a duet with Dr K show the Chinese people back home that the world loves the CCP, regardless of whether the duet appeared to happen  on CNY or not?

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The goons panicked when Dr K refused (he was broadcasting it live anyway); they broke into manglese and claimed individual rights to image privacy.


Proving my point: the 'individual rights' delusion is (naturally!) still alive and kicking in China.  Education is needed to overcome that delusion in China and the West.   

Yes, CNY is the major celebration for Chinese people worldwide, as Christmas is in the West.

The CCP is obsessed with projecting the image of admiration for it outside China and in broadcasting that to mainland Chinese.

The point of the events that the broadcasters throw to around the world is that they are live and therefore are not staged, such that the random people interviewed on the street appear to spontaneously praise Chinese people and the CCP. To ensure there's no embarrassing condemnation of the CCP broadcast live, these so-called live events are pre-recorded and the 'spontaneous' responses are scripted.

The goons had planned to have Dr K and one of their own in a duet showing that Chinese people are loved worldwide and, likely, a positive plug for the CCP and the Chinese economy would be scripted in.

When the goons realised Dr K's partner was recording the interaction, they realised that their so-called live event which they would have filmed for broadcasting later would already be out there as having occurred 2 days before - thus exposing the lie of the 'live' event.

Hence the goons' panic, tantrum-throwing and their claiming of individual rights.


They were pretty dirty too when they realised that Dr. K and his mate were waiting for a Japanese(the enemy) film crew, plus that DrK had asked them if they were Japanese or called them Japanese in error.

That's why I reckon there was the show of flags.

Anyway typical CCP brainwashed goons.

They were in the UK not China ... so they should have just pissed off.
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Reply #208 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:53pm
 
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They were in the UK not China ... so they should have just pissed off.


It takes a long time for them to let go of the brainwashing.
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Reply #209 - Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:57pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 1st, 2024 at 7:53pm:
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They were in the UK not China ... so they should have just pissed off.


It takes a long time for them to let go of the brainwashing.


So that woman Alley said in the youtube clips I posted.
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