freediver wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 7:53pm:

In the case of Christine Lee, (the older female goon) it was more than brainwashing.

Lee is a Chinese lawyer and CCP spy whom MI5 issued a public warning about after the 'pianogate' incident went public.

She has broadcast that she intends to sue MI5 for, of all things, defamation!! Having already made a c~nt of herself in 'pianogate', she's doubling down to make a stupid c~nt of herself in court! Not sure how that will go down in Beijing!

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 2:37pm:


Correct; but while law may or may not be good law, individual rights are an illusion and hence contradictory, eg the absurd concept of "rules" of war based on 'absolute national sovereignty' contradict  the "right" to life, as 30,000 dead Palestinians attest. 

Just as the 'rights' of naturally competitive, self interested, 'sovereign individuals" are also an oxymoron, unless they submit to rule of law limiting/defining those "rights".   

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Beside the point - which is 'individual rights' are contradictory nonsense, as shown above.

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Indeed - citizens who submit to rule of law, as noted by Cicero: "All must submit to rule of law, for all the be free."

Whereas the  "right" of individual nations  to absolute national soverignty immediately cancels the right to life, as 30,000 dead - not free - Palestinians can attest. 

There are some who seem to entertain the delusion that the terms 'common prosperity' and 'consensus' must be associated with totalitarian rule.

They are generic terms that can be applied to any process where peoples come together to vote or select a course of action and are, of course, found in democracies.

Democratic collectivist, consensus-based societies are particularly common throughout East and Southeast Asia, such as Japan, the Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan, Thailand, Indonesia and South Korea.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 12:04pm:


Not me, that's your fake narrative.

For my part, I would like to see a friendly competition between democracy - "the worst form of government" - and a consensus meritocracy, or benevolent authority. 

China is not interested in imposing its system on anyone else , and yet the West - with its contradictory 'individual rights'  delusions, is preparing to make war on China (as per the "China threat" theory). 

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And so your fake narrative proceeds on its merry way:
of course 'common prosperity' and 'consensus' are desirable, beyond political ideology, the question is - which system wil deliver them?

As a matter of fact,  I wouldn't be interested in promoting   either system  above the other, in a ZIRP, JG  (MMT-informed)  economy. 

"It's the economy, stupid"!

You want the "right" to vote for your favourite clown?

Go for it, just so long as everyone is employed and has a house, with equal access to health and education. 

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Indeed.

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 1^st, 2024 at 11:28am:


Do you admit that your support for the CCP goes much further than your views being consistent with their policies?

Once you admit that, would you like to have another go at giving a straight answer?

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2024 at 2:25pm:

You'll need to stop defending the CCP before anyone will take your word for it and take you seriously regarding common prosperity and concensus government.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 11:55am:


The CCP are the only government with common prosperity as a stated goal, while poverty and inequality are increasing in the West.

https://www.oxfam.org.au/what-we-do/economic-inequality/resources/?gad_source=1&...

This report focuses on how taxing the rich is vital to addressing skyrocketing inequality. Extreme wealth and extreme poverty have increased simultaneously over the last 25 years.

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 12:10pm:


So your claim that Australia's welfare is well below the poverty line is merely CCP policy, not the truth?