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Reply #240 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:55am

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As for the CCP, they are indeed pragmatic, changing policies as the economy demands it.

And you trust the institution that kills Chinese citizens by the tens of millions to make those choices based on what is best for the Chinese people, rather than what is best for the CCP or their particular faction of it?

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Reply #241 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:59am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:50am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

It sounds like another synonym for "common prosperity".

Don't listen to Meister, he is confused...(!)

I already disabused him of his "NS was common prosperity" delusion.

No you haven't.

Your handler's argumentation style is typically Han Chinese in its ignorance of other peoples outside that ethnic group.

Feel free to explain your reference to Hitler in the context of National Socialism and common prosperity.

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Reply #242 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:59am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:39am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:55pm:

That’s the thing when totalitarians rant about common prosperity - they don’t mean it’s for everyone.

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You are the one falsely conflating NS and common prosperity.

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So, how bout that Hitler, eh! Will you be starting a thread about common prosperity in Germany during the 30s?

No, because Hitler's policices were rendered evil by his anti semitism.

Try again.

Can you explain your comment in the context of National Socialism and common prosperity: Yes, it's a pity Hitler lost his mind and went to war. ?

Originally, Hitler - following NS economic principles - created a remarkably succesful period for the German economy, dragging it out of depression and killing hyperinflation, and building the much admired autobahn network. He was a popular leader in Germany for a time.

But - oh dear - anti-semitism and visions of 'Germany over all'.......

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #244 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:03am

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:55am:

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As for the CCP, they are indeed pragmatic, changing policies as the economy demands it.

And you trust the institution that kills Chinese citizens by the tens of millions to make those choices based on what is best for the Chinese people, rather than what is best for the CCP or their particular faction of it?

You are confused: "killed" - not "kills"

Since Mao, the CCP has eradicated poverty at the fastest rate of any nation in history.

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Reply #245 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:10am

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:02am:

Who killed more people, the Nazis or the CCP?

Bomber Harris killed quite a few people....

But while Mao killed his own people; Hitler suffered defeat in a war which killed 50 million people, with Russians and Germans suffering the highest kill rate.

Like Meister, you are confusing NS principles with Hitler, and Mao with the CCP.

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Reply #246 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:13am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:59am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:39am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:55pm:

That’s the thing when totalitarians rant about common prosperity - they don’t mean it’s for everyone.

??

You are the one falsely conflating NS and common prosperity.

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So, how bout that Hitler, eh! Will you be starting a thread about common prosperity in Germany during the 30s?

No, because Hitler's policices were rendered evil by his anti semitism.

Try again.

Can you explain your comment in the context of National Socialism and common prosperity: Yes, it's a pity Hitler lost his mind and went to war. ?

Originally, Hitler - following NS economic principles - created a remarkably succesful period for the German economy, dragging it out of depression and killing hyperinflation, and building the much admired autobahn network. He was a popular leader in Germany for a time.

But - oh dear - anti-semitism and visions of 'Germany over all'.......

Hitler made no secret from the outset of his contempt for non-German ethnicities, particularly Jews, Gypsies and Slavs - no common prosperity soup for them.

Democracy was ended in favour of Hitler ruling by decree.

All political dissent was brutally crushed, as was freedom of speech.

Individual rights were abrogated.

Germans were encouraged to report any dissent or expressions of dissatisfaction with the regime.

A high price to pay for autobahns.

Sounds like the CCP is National Socialism with Chinese characteristics.

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Reply #247 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:19am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:59am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:50am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

It sounds like another synonym for "common prosperity".

Don't listen to Meister, he is confused...(!)

I already disabused him of his "NS was common prosperity" delusion.

No you haven't.

Your handler's argumentation style is typically Han Chinese in its ignorance of other peoples outside that ethnic group.

Please explain.

NS policies - least of all common prosperity, and Hitler are NOT the same, as I already showed. Just as the CCP is not Mao.

Your ideologically-crippled ("free market") brain can't see it.

Sad.

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Feel free to explain your reference to Hitler in the context of National Socialism and common prosperity.

Already done in my reply to Meister; do try to keep up.

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Reply #248 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:20am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:02am:

Who killed more people, the Nazis or the CCP?

Bomber Harris killed quite a few people....

But while Mao killed his own people; Hitler suffered defeat in a war which killed 50 million people, with Russians and Germans suffering the highest kill rate.

Like Meister, you are confusing NS principles with Hitler, and Mao with the CCP.

National Socialism was Hitler's own doctrine after he ascended to the leadership of the party.

Mao was particularly brutal to non-Han Chinese.

Mao would have hated Marx but would have loved Lenin and Hitler... He crawled on all fours in Stalin's presence.

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Reply #249 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:22am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:19am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:59am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:50am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

It sounds like another synonym for "common prosperity".

Don't listen to Meister, he is confused...(!)

I already disabused him of his "NS was common prosperity" delusion.

No you haven't.

Your handler's argumentation style is typically Han Chinese in its ignorance of other peoples outside that ethnic group.

Please explain.

NS policies - least of all common prosperity, and Hitler are NOT the same, as I already showed. Just as the CCP is not Mao.

Your ideologically-crippled ("free market") brain can't see it.

Sad.

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Feel free to explain your reference to Hitler in the context of National Socialism and common prosperity.

Already done in my reply to Meister; do try to keep up.

The CCP embodies Maoist thought as National Socialism embodies Hitler's thought.

Just saying it doesn't, does not make it true.

Can you replace your Han Chinese handler with another ethnicity?

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Reply #250 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:28am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:13am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:59am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:39am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2024 at 2:55pm:

That’s the thing when totalitarians rant about common prosperity - they don’t mean it’s for everyone.

??

You are the one falsely conflating NS and common prosperity.

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So, how bout that Hitler, eh! Will you be starting a thread about common prosperity in Germany during the 30s?

No, because Hitler's policices were rendered evil by his anti semitism.

Try again.

Can you explain your comment in the context of National Socialism and common prosperity: Yes, it's a pity Hitler lost his mind and went to war. ?

Originally, Hitler - following NS economic principles - created a remarkably succesful period for the German economy, dragging it out of depression and killing hyperinflation, and building the much admired autobahn network. He was a popular leader in Germany for a time.

But - oh dear - anti-semitism and visions of 'Germany over all'.......

Hitler made no secret from the outset of his contempt for non-German ethnicities, particularly Jews, Gypsies and Slavs - no common prosperity soup for them.

You agreeing with me? (....though the "soup" bit betrays your vicious fake "freedom" ideology).

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Democracy was ended in favour of Hitler ruling by decree.

Yes...and?
Where is the relevence to common prosperity?

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All political dissent was brutally crushed, as was freedom of speech.

Individual rights were abrogated.

Germans were encouraged to report any dissent or expressions of dissatisfaction with the regime.

Yes ...agian, where is the relevence to common prosperity?

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A high price to pay for autobahns.[/qiote]

The Germans didn't think so; Hitler had majority support for a time.

[quote]Sounds like the CCP is National Socialism with Chinese characteristics.

Another example of an ideologiclly crippled mind not able to think logically: NS and Chinese socialism are not Hitler and Mao.

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #251 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:34am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:03am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:55am:

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As for the CCP, they are indeed pragmatic, changing policies as the economy demands it.

And you trust the institution that kills Chinese citizens by the tens of millions to make those choices based on what is best for the Chinese people, rather than what is best for the CCP or their particular faction of it?

You are confused: "killed" - not "kills"

Since Mao, the CCP has eradicated poverty at the fastest rate of any nation in history.

They since helped unleash a deadly virus on China and the rest of the world.

Would you like to have another go at giving a straight answer? Would you trust an institution that has never punished leaders for killing Chinese citizens by the tens of millions, but imposes severe punishments on Chinese citizens for criticising them? Would you trust them to make those choices based on what is best for the Chinese people, rather than what is best for the CCP or their particular faction of it?

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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #252 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:34am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:02am:

Who killed more people, the Nazis or the CCP?

Bomber Harris killed quite a few people....

But while Mao killed his own people; Hitler suffered defeat in a war which killed 50 million people, with Russians and Germans suffering the highest kill rate.

Like Meister, you are confusing NS principles with Hitler, and Mao with the CCP.

You didn't give a straight answer little pink.

Who killed more people, the Nazis or the CCP?

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Reply #253 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:36am

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:28am:

Where is the relevence to common prosperity?

National Socialism's common prosperity referred to specific Germans, not all Germans and not non-Germans.

That's what happens when your handlers throw around terms like 'common prosperity' and demand it be parrotted bike the CCP invented it. Being Han Chinese, your handlers are hoping no one asks who the 'common' in 'common prosperity' refers to because, like National Socialism, it does not refer to all people. And even among the Han, it refers only to those who have guanxi.

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Reply #254 - Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:37am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:22am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 11:19am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:59am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:50am:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2024 at 10:32am:

It sounds like another synonym for "common prosperity".

Don't listen to Meister, he is confused...(!)

I already disabused him of his "NS was common prosperity" delusion.

No you haven't.

Your handler's argumentation style is typically Han Chinese in its ignorance of other peoples outside that ethnic group.

Please explain.

NS policies - least of all common prosperity, and Hitler are NOT the same, as I already showed. Just as the CCP is not Mao.

Your ideologically-crippled ("free market") brain can't see it.

Sad.

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Feel free to explain your reference to Hitler in the context of National Socialism and common prosperity.

Already done in my reply to Meister; do try to keep up.

The CCP embodies Maoist thought as National Socialism embodies Hitler's thought.

Correct, but Mao's and Hitler's policies corrupted Chinese socialism and NS, respectively.

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Just saying it doesn't, does not make it true.

'fraid it does....

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Can you replace your Han Chinese handler with another ethnicity?

Could a "little pink" replace his Han Chinese handler with someone else?

Dunno. It would be a pity if they have a good relationship....

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