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Reply #330 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 1:10pm:
Possibly true.


So your statement (re propensity for murder) was wrong, I accept your concession.

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They were also loathe to lift a finger to defend China from the Japanese. Even so, the Japanese did not kill as many Chinese people as Mao did.


The CCP defended its own territory, biding time; meanwhile Europeans displayed  their unrivalled capacity for slaughtering one another.   

And the CCP has nothing to do with the egregious political hyper-partisanship wrecking US social cohesion, which Jamie Dimon is concerned about (for the sake of his bank - see the latest MMT post). 
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Reply #331 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 1:08pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
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Among your errors there: the US - a developed country


What country do you think the real human beings you are talking to on this forum are in?


Irrelevant; the US is printing more money than China - and producing less. 


I think it is relevant that you do not even know which country we are in.


Care to tell us why?
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Reply #332 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:17pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:09pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 1:08pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
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Among your errors there: the US - a developed country


What country do you think the real human beings you are talking to on this forum are in?


Irrelevant; the US is printing more money than China - and producing less. 


I think it is relevant that you do not even know which country we are in.


Care to tell us why?


Because you keep mistakenly assuming I am talking about America. It is hard to have a rational conversation with a person who thinks you are talking about a different country, and the only alternative to consider is to recreate America around the world.

What country do you think we are in?

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:08pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 1:10pm:
Possibly true.


So your statement (re propensity for murder) was wrong, I accept your concession.

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They were also loathe to lift a finger to defend China from the Japanese. Even so, the Japanese did not kill as many Chinese people as Mao did.


The CCP defended its own territory, biding time; meanwhile Europeans displayed  their unrivalled capacity for slaughtering one another.   

And the CCP has nothing to do with the egregious political hyper-partisanship wrecking US social cohesion, which Jamie Dimon is concerned about (for the sake of his bank - see the latest MMT post). 


The CCP were cowards who let the Japanese army slaughter Chinese men and rape Chinese women, who let America come to their rescue, so that they could rule over the waste left behind and make it even worse.
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Reply #333 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:26pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:17pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:09pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 1:08pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 12:59pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2024 at 12:48pm:
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Among your errors there: the US - a developed country


What country do you think the real human beings you are talking to on this forum are in?


Irrelevant; the US is printing more money than China - and producing less. 


I think it is relevant that you do not even know which country we are in.


Care to tell us why?


Because you keep mistakenly assuming I am talking about America.


No I don't. I refer to America because it is "the beacon on the hill" (sic) and because it is the global hegemon with the global reserve currency, with outsize influence in the world.

And because it has one of the first  constitutions to speak of 'inalienable' individual rights. 


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It is hard to have a rational conversation with a person who thinks you are talking about a different country, and the only alternative to consider is to recreate America around the world.


That's what global hegemony is: with 800  military bases around the world to maintain it. 

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What country do you think we are in?


Irrelevant.
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Reply #334 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:29pm
 
I think it is relevant whether you have any sort of situational awareness. You appear to parrot slogans, but not think.

What country do you think we are in?
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Reply #335 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
I think it is relevant whether you have any sort of situational awareness. You appear to parrot slogans, but not think.

What country do you think we are in?


For what's it's worth: Oz - a vassal of the US.

Meanwhile you created this thread because you are unable to defend the foundations of your own contradictory "inalienable rights" theory (as they apply for naturally competitive, self-interested individuals).

So you divert to finding faults with the CCP.

Deplorable.
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Reply #336 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:15pm
 
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your own contradictory "inalienable rights" theory


What theory would that be?
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Reply #337 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:38pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:15pm:
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your own contradictory "inalienable rights" theory


What theory would that be?


I was waiting for that question.

The theory that a mandate to govern is only legitimate if achieved by 'democratic' (sic) elections....whether by voluntary voting or compulsion (already a contradiction).

And that "human rights" must of necessity include the above. 

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Reply #338 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 3:12pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:15pm:
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your own contradictory "inalienable rights" theory


What theory would that be?


I was waiting for that question.

The theory that a mandate to govern is only legitimate if achieved by 'democratic' (sic) elections....whether by voluntary voting or compulsion (already a contradiction).

And that "human rights" must of necessity include the above. 



Can you quote me?
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Reply #339 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 12:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 3:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:15pm:
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your own contradictory "inalienable rights" theory


What theory would that be?


I was waiting for that question.

The theory that a mandate to govern is only legitimate if achieved by 'democratic' (sic) elections....whether by voluntary voting or compulsion (already a contradiction).

And that "human rights" must of necessity include the above. 



Can you quote me?


Well, I wasn't waiting for THAT question ( silly me...); classic fraudiver denying he believes that the mandate to govern is only legitimately achieved by democratic elections, beloved by "individual human rights" ideologues. 

Not surprising, given FD's delusion that 'shared belief' equates to reality ( in "subjective reality"). 


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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #340 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 2:39pm
 
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Reply #341 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 2:44pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 12:49pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 3:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:15pm:
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your own contradictory "inalienable rights" theory


What theory would that be?


I was waiting for that question.

The theory that a mandate to govern is only legitimate if achieved by 'democratic' (sic) elections....whether by voluntary voting or compulsion (already a contradiction).

And that "human rights" must of necessity include the above. 



Can you quote me?


Well, I wasn't waiting for THAT question ( silly me...); classic fraudiver denying he believes that the mandate to govern is only legitimately achieved by democratic elections, beloved by "individual human rights" ideologues. 

Not surprising, given FD's delusion that 'shared belief' equates to reality ( in "subjective reality"). 


I am trying to figure out why you say all the silly things you do.
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Reply #342 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 2:54pm
 

Peasant 1:-  “Oo are you then?”

Albo:- “I am your Great Leader, and I bring you the Unelected Indigenous Voice!”

Peasant 1:- “Oo created this Indigenous Voice then?  What's it based on?”

Albo (heavenly music):- “The Great Serpent, filled with the power of the seas and the skies and the thunder and lightning in the clouds, came down from Heaven, and using his great body, carved the hills and river courses, and then dying, his mighty ribs created the mountains and his bones the Indigenous People to be custodians over the land and gave them a Voice over all in the land which must be restored to them ….......”

Peasant 2:-  “Some failed herpetological experiment is no basis on which to form a valid argument to develop a multi-layered government by changing the Constitution!  True government comes from a mandate of the masses, willingly given and fully informed! We're a semi-autonomous, quasi-anarchic egalitarian assemblage of rules-bound free individuals who vote every three years on our elected representatives, who then sit down and natter out the best way forward, and if we disagree with them we can write to them or vote them out next time around, or even refuse to abide by their dictates under the guiding principle that 'an unjust law – (or decision or policy for that matter) – is no law - (or decision or policy for that matter) - at all'!  We don't need no Voices in our heads telling us what to do!!”

Albo:-  “But failure to do so is racist and divisive!”

Peasant 2:-  “Oh – now we see the truth about the injustice and fundamental tyranny in the system – we're racist and divisive for just wanting things left alone!”

Albo:-  “But I am your Great Leader!  You must vote for this Voice or be branded traitor forever – an enemy of the people and racist to boot!  Now stop being a bloody racist White invader and just vote for it!”

Peasant 2:- “Ah -  there it is right in front of you – look everyone – this is how the system treats those who dissent!  Name-calling and insult!  I'll vote NO thanks.”

Albo:- (grabs peasant's shirt front)  “Look, you bloody white supremacist invading convict derived moron!  Just vote YES for what's right and get on with it!” (shakes peasant)

Peasant 2:-  “Come on!  Look at this everybody!!  I'm being oppressed!  This is how the system treats you if you say NO.... I'm being oppressed!!”
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Re: Chinese Communist Party Propaganda
Reply #343 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 2:55pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 2:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 12:49pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 3:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:15pm:
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your own contradictory "inalienable rights" theory


What theory would that be?


I was waiting for that question.

The theory that a mandate to govern is only legitimate if achieved by 'democratic' (sic) elections....whether by voluntary voting or compulsion (already a contradiction).

And that "human rights" must of necessity include the above. 



Can you quote me?


Well, I wasn't waiting for THAT question ( silly me...); classic fraudiver denying he believes that the mandate to govern is only legitimately achieved by democratic elections, beloved by "individual human rights" ideologues. 

Not surprising, given FD's delusion that 'shared belief' equates to reality ( in "subjective reality"). 


I am trying to figure out why you say all the silly things you do.


It's his nature......  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #344 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 10:36am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 2:44pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 12:49pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 3:12pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:38pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 1:15pm:
Quote:
your own contradictory "inalienable rights" theory


What theory would that be?


I was waiting for that question.

The theory that a mandate to govern is only legitimate if achieved by 'democratic' (sic) elections....whether by voluntary voting or compulsion (already a contradiction).

And that "human rights" must of necessity include the above. 



Can you quote me?


Well, I wasn't waiting for THAT question ( silly me...); classic fraudiver denying he believes that the mandate to govern is only legitimately achieved by democratic elections, beloved by "individual human rights" ideologues. 

Not surprising, given FD's delusion that 'shared belief' equates to reality ( in "subjective reality"). 


I am trying to figure out why you say all the silly things you do.


Classic case of a blind, deluded 'individual rights' ideologue trying and failing to perceive reality....
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