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It's more about where they are. Location, location, location.

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You mean, which Xi (and you) blamed someone else for, like a spineless bureaucrat. No wait, he did not blame anyone in particular, just a vague, unidentified group. I guess we will have to wait until they die in their mansion before the CCP makes them a scapegoat for everything.

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Both of the original comments were about the rental market. You used the availability of houses for rent in one post as evidence of a housing crisis, and in another thread using lack of availability of rentals as evidence of a housing crisis.

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It's not a policy. This is not communist China. We do not send 50 million people off to starve to death on a bureaucrat's whim.

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Again, not a policy. Not even what I said.

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thegreatdivide wrote on May 11^th, 2024 at 2:04pm:


Inequality is greater in China than in Australia.

You brought up PPP earlier, then ran away when I asked you about it.

Another measure, which I think is relevant to your idiotic ramblings about a "housing crisis" in Australia: The average size of a new home in Australia is 236 square meters. This is the largest in the world. In China the average house size is 60 square meters.

freediver wrote on May 11^th, 2024 at 2:21pm:


But rapidly decreasing in China, while it's increasing in Oz.

And Chinese per capita gdp is rising in China, while it's actually decreasing in Oz. 

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I brought up ppp now because your world chart ignored ppp - ie real economic comparisons across nations of purchaing power parity within a nation. 

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See how idiotically blind you are - do you access media at all, in your gated community?

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Yet tiny 1950-60's post war dumps cost a million bucks in Sydney...aka a housing crisis, when Sydney needs workers too.   

The real-esate crises in China is not the result of house sizes, but the result of private sector 'get rich quick' rent-seeker greed, which always ends in tears.

Just look at Oz.   

thegreatdivide wrote on May 12^th, 2024 at 2:02pm:


Can you back up what you said, or is it just more meaningless gibberish that not even you understand? You do not know what the welfare safety net is, you do not know what the median Chinese wage is, you do not know what the poverty line is, and you do not know what PPP is. You know nothing, but you happily string your ignorance together into an elaborate story that you call 'research'.

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A generation ago the Chinese people were all starving together on a roughly equal basis. They now have a greater wealth ddisparity than Australia, and a fraction of the income.

But I agree, China's economy is tanking under the current leadership, and the little pinks are celebrating because the rich are being harmed more than the poor.

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You bring it up repeatedly, but it is just more meaningless propaganda that you blurt out without knowing what it means.

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You really are utterly clueless, aren't you? This is from 7 years ago:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/beijing-shanghai-shenzhen-the-cities-where-house-prices-rose-by-30-to-40-per-cent-20161003-grtwe6.html

In China, real estate prices are typically quoted on a per square-metre basis. Prices in central Beijing conservatively start at 80,000 yuan [about $16,000] per square metre, making even a nondescript, 100-square-metre, two-bedroom, previously owned apartment $1.6 million. New off-the-plan apartments within the city's fourth ring road sold in August for an average 15 million yuan, or close to $3 million, according to Chinese media reports. Across the country, prices rose in 64 of 70 major cities that month, according to official government data.

In China, the average price to income ratio is approximately 29 - that is, you need 29 years salary to buy a property. This is despite the tiny sizes and poor quality in China. In Australia, we have the largest houses in the world, and people call it a "crisis" when the average price to income ratio is 8.



This isn't your imagination TGD, this is real. And back when the CCP was starving 50 million Chinese people to death by trying to feed them all equally, they somehow managed to convince them to feel sorry for the westerners who were even worse off. You can kind of forgive their ignorance, as they were literally kept in the dark and threatened with death for asking the wrong questions. But no-one can explain the gullibility of today's little pinks.