TGD, do you know what ancient history actually means? It does not mean your grandparents generation. Did the CCP tell you to spread that lie?

Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2024 at 1:50pm:


Stopped reading right there: the CIA is one of the world's  evil institutions.

Whereas the CCP is driven by the exigencies of lifting 1.5 billion people out of poverty.

And having spectacularly  progressed along that course since  1990, the CCP wants to maintain that course, seeing the dysfunction currently gripping most of the "freedom values" democracies around the world.

freediver wrote on Dec 17^th, 2024 at 6:14pm:


Obviously not: "60 years ago" is ancient history, given that "a week is long time in politics"....; do try to keep up.

And the world's most successful government in poverty eradication since 1990  must be doing something right..... 

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Your error: the Global South (India, Africa and the 3rd world)  has remained mired in poverty since WW2.  After 1990, China adopted Western macroeconomic principles and later joined the WTO which resulted in the fastest  rate of poverty reduction in history - in CHINA, while  the West developed an entrenched "rust belt".

It's only now that both China and the West have to come to grips with the limitations of the free market in the context of globalization under WTO rules.

Not surprisingly, Trump wants to decouple from the world.....   

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Your error exposed above.

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You are lying again: the covid death rate in China (per million people ) was a third of the US (CDC figures).

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Gosh - you reveal your grasp of economics is as 'solid' as bobbys..... 

I - and the CCP - say "communism" is not a "micro- economic theory", but an endevour to achieve common prosperity and eradication of poverty (obviously a macro-economic phenomenon)  - possible, because there is no scarcity of resources in the world which would prevent attainment of that outcome.

And macro-economic guidance with which the CCP has made spectacular progress, since 1990.  (World Bank figures)

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Your confusion re "intent" shown above. 

Whereas  the neoliberal market practiced in the West certainly entrenched systemic poverty among those least able to compete.

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Refuted above.

Your confusion re "intent"is egregious, and your refusal to even consider working toward an economy which works for all (Bernie Sanders) is a consequence of your ugly, blind, "poverty is always with us" Conservative ideology.   

Deplorable.

freediver wrote on Dec 18^th, 2024 at 5:49pm:


Around 50% more more than in the US, despite China's population being 4 times as large as the US. [Hint: CDC says China's death rate per 1 million people was 30%  of the US's - you can do the math ( I hope...)].   


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Not a refutation of your confusion re macro- and micro-economics.

However, I'm glad you mentioned "redefining" communism, exposing the contradictions in your blind individual rights/freedom ideology:

You say the Chinese 'Communist' Party embraced 'capitalism' (according to you) and yet it's still evil....even though the CCP eradicated poverty at the fastest rate in history since 1990. 

Just to clear up your confusion re the word "communism":

google

communism
/ˈkɒmjʊnɪz(ə)m/
noun
a system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

ie, expressing a system based on[i] morality, justice and fairness...

But the CCP has learned to accomodate the exigencies of human nature (including traits of competition and greed), and so has allowed private ownership and profit, aka as 'opening up',  beginning in the 1980s.   

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'Ancient history'..... hence your confusion resulting in your current hatred of "communism", exposed above. 

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No, I'm trying to visualize good government, managing an economy which works for all.

Naturally I hope the CCP can achieve its centennial goal of  'a prosperous socialist society in all respects', by 2049.

But failing that, the hope by many for government capable of managing  an economy which works for all will persist.

What we do know is Trump's MAGA policies will improverish the rest of the world, if not the US itself:

(Raw Story)

Trump handed basic math lesson as Nobel prize winner takes apart policies

More fun and games in "the worst form of government":

(Raw Story)

Trump lashes out at 'nasty trap' laid by Democrats in lengthy screed


President-elect Donald Trump took to his Truth Social platform on Wednesday to complain about the state of the omnibus spending deal — and demand that no deal pass without raising the debt ceiling for next year.

The debt ceiling, which can force the United States to default on payment obligations it already made, was extended to 2025 after a month of furious negotiation last year by then-House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), who tried to squeeze draconian cuts to social spending out of the deal, and the Biden administration. At the time, some Republicans were opposed to raising the debt ceiling at all.

Now on the hook if the nation defaults and blows up the world economy, Trump is complaining that the debt ceiling was timed by Democrats to be a "trap" against him.

"Sounds like the ridiculous and extraordinarily expensive Continuing Resolution, PLUS, is dying fast, but can anyone imagine passing it without either terminating, or extending, the Debt Ceiling guillotine coming up in June?" asked Trump.

"Unless the Democrats terminate or substantially extend Debt Ceiling now, I will fight ‘till the end," he continued. "This is a nasty TRAP set in place by the Radical Left Democrats! They are looking to embarrass us in June when it comes up for a Vote. The people that extended it, from September 28th to June 1st, should be ashamed of themselves. It was political malpractice!"

Trump added: "Also, the Communist Global Engagement Center, a project of Crooked Hillary Clinton, should not in any way, shape, or form be extended and, the shielding of the very corrupt J6 Unselect Committee of Political Losers and Thugs would be suicidal for any Republican approving it. Likewise, this is not a good time for Congress to be asking for pay increases. Hopefully, you’ll be entitled to such an increase in the near future when we, 'MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!'"

All of this comes as one of Trump's closest allies and strategist, tech billionaire Elon Musk, blew up GOP support for the resolution and threatened primary challenges against any Republican who votes for it — a development that upended the whole process.

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Notice: Trump wants the debt ceiling raised, while Musk wants to slash government spending, depriving benefits for those who rely on them.

What can we conclude about the morality of the world's richest man? 

 

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 8:45am:


Ancient history.

Whereas lifting more people out of poverty at the fastest rate in history since 1990 IS fun......


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The American CDC is a competent organization  able to collect statistics from the entire world, as noted in the linked  article.

Your "fake news" routine won't work here....

freediver wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 10:08am:


No mindless propaganda, just a desire to achieve sustainable prosperity for all. 

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Simple: the Chinese people - seeing the chaos in the US government - are increasingly inclined to stay with their  CCP government. Better to have a house, a job, and improving living standards,  than live in "freedom"(!) under a chaotic government presiding over a cost of living crisis. 

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No, in fact Chinese life-expectancy in oncourse to overtake the US.

https://qz.com/china-life-expectancy-exceeds-us-1849483265

China's life expectancy is now higher than that of the US

So much for life in democracy's 'beacon on the hill'....

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Don't know, but why are you rejecting the independent  CDC stats?

Meanwhile, growth in Chinese life expectancy keeps out-pacing growth in US life expectancy.

Jasin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2024 at 10:57am:


Taiwan is part of China according to both the US and the UN; the US is only trying to foment a civil war between Chinese on both sides of the Taiwan Straits.....regardless of which nation has the most LBGXWZ people...