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Reply #615 - Yesterday at 10:02am

freediver wrote Yesterday at 9:29am:

https://www.cecc.gov/freedom-of-expression-in-china-a-privilege-not-a-right#:~:text=The%20only%20people%20in%20China,members%20of%20the%20Communist%20Party.

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The only people in China who can publish criticisms of, or opinions contrary to those of, the Communist Party, are senior members of the Communist Party.

That;s because reactionary voices like yours would destroy the 'sociailist' revolution in a hearbeart

Certainly the clock is ticking for the CCP, if it can't continue to demonstrate superior economic managemnt and development under the CCP. than Westerm democracIes. Chinese people are still thankful for the rapid increase in living standards over the last 3 decades.

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Reply #616 - Yesterday at 10:10am

freediver wrote Yesterday at 10:00am:

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By ensuring a steady increase in lliving standards, otherwise the CCP will be as as despised as 'democratic' Western governments which are collapsing under hyperpartisanship and 'populist' forces.

That is the CCP's current strategy for keeping their heads. It is not a method for the Chinese people to defend themselves from the CCP,

Why would the people need to defend themselves against the CCP, if the CCP government continues to lift living standards for all - as it has achieved in the last 3 decades?

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Reply #617 - Yesterday at 10:27am

freediver wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:23am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:53am:

freediver wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:20am:

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I am blaming the US, the most powerful member of the UNSC since its inception, for not signing up to effective internatinal law after WW2 , at the start of the age of MAD.

I remember now. You want to US to be the world's police force?

No, I want the 5 members of the UNSC to abide by international law which themembers are sworn to upholding.

And it's not all that far-fetched: in Trump's first term before China's technological advance became an acute concern for Trump, he would have had willing partners including Xi and Putin (with whom he was on good terms), to combine their militaries under UN control (effectively UNSC control).

But Trump's survival of the fittest instincts won out...

Trump actually said (early in his term) "the UN has fine ideals but is ineffective".

Unfortunately he missed the opportunity to gain a place in history as the man who made the UN effective.

Ah. It gets even worse. You don't want the US to be the world's police. You want them to hand their military over to foreign control.

Your error - typical of blind "freedom" ideologues who reject an international rules-based system - a properly constituted UNSC ie, capable of defending the UNUDHR, is NOT a "foreign power".

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And you think they are already sworn to do this? Is that from your CCP pamphlet or did you come up with that one yourself?

Like I said, Trump had enough power in 2016 to bang heads together in the UNSC to create the required UNSC described above.
But several wars - includong an economic war - have intervened since then.

My own observations, to save us from ourselves in the age of MAD....

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Reply #618 - Yesterday at 10:36am

Gnads wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 11:15am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 11:25am:

Gnads wrote on Jan 11^th, 2025 at 9:32am:

Rubbish - 1989 is not ancient history.

"ancient history" is a term used in this context to reiforce the point: a week is a long time in politics.....

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China had been in out of the cold since 1979.

Actually since 1972 when Nixon recognised the CCP as government of China., to gain support against the USSR.

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In December 1978 at the 3rd plenary session of the 11th Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, Deng Xiaoping announced the official launch of the Four Modernizations, formally marking the beginning of the reform.

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Neither is that an excuse to murder your own citizens by sending in the military and tanks nor for you to condone it because it was 33 years ago.

Yea it is, you either defend the revolution from counter revolutionaries, or you don't .

And in 1970, the US govt sent the 'national guard' (!) into US universities during the Vietnam war, and murdered 6 unarmed students protesting against the war.

You're comparing the Cut Lunch Commandos going to Kent University to the Red Army being sent into Tiananmen Square?

Yes; and murdering peace protesters is worse than murdering cunter-revolutionaries, thouh both are murder.

And the death of 4 Uni students(not 6) to hundreds or thousands of Chinese students?

2 on another campus - all 'ancieny history' now.

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Reply #619 - Yesterday at 10:47am

lee wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 12:33pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 12^th, 2025 at 10:34am:

I say the the CCP presents an alternative to the West's blind survival of the fittest, invisible hand "free" markets, and should be allowed to function in China, without threat from absurd "freedom fighters" in the West.

So you say that the CCP gets a free pass from emitting CO2. Thanks for that. Grin

Poor crippled brain lee; even FD recognizes the need to transition from fossils (see the 'LA fires' thread), given AGW climate change.

And in 2024 China rolled out as much renewable energy as the rest of the world combined - do try to keep up.

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Reply #620 - Yesterday at 12:32pm

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 10:47am:

Poor crippled brain lee; even FD recognizes the need to transition from fossils (see the 'LA fires' thread), given AGW climate change.

And yet I have shown that the IPCC does not believe there us a climate emergency. So the question remains why do we need to transition? Wink

Fossil fuels are the reason for the increase in longevity since the LIA... or the start of the Industrial Revolution, if you prefer.

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Reply #621 - Today at 7:48am

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 10:02am:

freediver wrote Yesterday at 9:29am:

https://www.cecc.gov/freedom-of-expression-in-china-a-privilege-not-a-right#:~:text=The%20only%20people%20in%20China,members%20of%20the%20Communist%20Party.

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The only people in China who can publish criticisms of, or opinions contrary to those of, the Communist Party, are senior members of the Communist Party.

That;s because reactionary voices like yours would destroy the 'sociailist' revolution in a hearbeart

The socialist revolution is dead. The CCP has embraced capitalism. But it has not given up on sowing death.

It has nothing to do with the socialist revolution. It is just the CCP clinging to power by lying to the Chinese people, and punishing anyone who calls out their lies and incompetence.

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 10:10am:

freediver wrote Yesterday at 10:00am:

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By ensuring a steady increase in lliving standards, otherwise the CCP will be as as despised as 'democratic' Western governments which are collapsing under hyperpartisanship and 'populist' forces.

That is the CCP's current strategy for keeping their heads. It is not a method for the Chinese people to defend themselves from the CCP,

Why would the people need to defend themselves against the CCP

Because the CCP has killed about 100 million Chinese people. Again you dodge the qustion.

You claimed that the Chinese people are more able to defend themselves from the CCP than in the past. How?

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #622 - Today at 4:38pm

freediver wrote Today at 7:48am:

The socialist revolution is dead. The CCP has embraced capitalism. But it has not given up on sowing death.

Nonsense; the 'socialist revolution' is only just getting started all around the world, as people are abandoning dyfunctional mainstream economics - because "it's the economy, stupid".

Exhibit 1. Australia's gdp per capita is going backwards with falling home ownership rates among the young, the first generation in Oz history to experience this in peacetime. And the alternative government's policies to reduce government spending will only increase inequality, as the Libs cut government sending.

But the population doesn't know how the economy works, so they are easily led by the nose by lying economists and ignorant politicians.

And as for "sowing death", our ally the US is complicit in sowing death in other countries (sending arms instead of solutions to conflicts), while the CCP is working hard to increase living standards in China.

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Why would the people need to defend themselves against the CCP

Because the CCP has killed about 100 million Chinese people. Again you dodge the qustion.

Newsflash: good governments change policies which result in unintended death in their own countries; bad ones like the US - "leader of the 'free' world" - use death (or poverty-maintaining sanctions, as the means to maintaining global hegemony.

It's all part of the "freedom or death" ideology of delusional "freedom" ideologues.

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You claimed that the Chinese people are more able to defend themselves from the CCP than in the past. How?

Answered above (in bold print).

But you can't see the mote in your own eye ( a warning in the New Testament....)

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Reply #623 - Today at 4:46pm

lee wrote Yesterday at 12:32pm:

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 10:47am:

Poor crippled brain lee; even FD recognizes the need to transition from fossils (see the 'LA fires' thread), given AGW climate change.

And yet I have shown that the IPCC does not believe there us a climate emergency. So the question remains why do we need to transition? Wink

Fossil fuels are the reason for the increase in longevity since the LIA... or the start of the Industrial Revolution, if you prefer.

Meanwhile China is rolling out renewables faster than any other country, thereby killing two birds with one stone ie the pollution crisis, and the climate change crisis.

The transition is unstoppable because it's a benefit to China's prosperity and sustainable development, which other nations want to share in.

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