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Reply #675 - Feb 3rd, 2025 at 9:40pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2025 at 11:06am:
freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2025 at 10:48am:
You said the tens of millions of people slaughtered by the CCP were "hated,"


No, I said slaughter is a concomitant of war.


Ah. So the CCP did slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?
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Reply #676 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 10:20am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2025 at 9:40pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2025 at 11:06am:
freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2025 at 10:48am:
You said the tens of millions of people slaughtered by the CCP were "hated,"


No, I said slaughter is a concomitant of war.


Ah. So the CCP did slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?


Can't you read?

Note: both sides in war slaughter the other, until one side wins.
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Reply #677 - Feb 5th, 2025 at 10:38am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 10:20am:
freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2025 at 9:40pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2025 at 11:06am:
freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2025 at 10:48am:
You said the tens of millions of people slaughtered by the CCP were "hated,"


No, I said slaughter is a concomitant of war.


Ah. So the CCP did slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?


Can't you read?

Note: both sides in war slaughter the other, until one side wins.


So the CCP did not deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they did actually do it, but the other side did it as well?

Is English your second language?
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Reply #678 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 9:50am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 10:38am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 5th, 2025 at 10:20am:
freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2025 at 9:40pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 2nd, 2025 at 11:06am:
freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2025 at 10:48am:
You said the tens of millions of people slaughtered by the CCP were "hated,"


No, I said slaughter is a concomitant of war.


Ah. So the CCP did slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?


Can't you read?

Note: both sides in war slaughter the other, until one side wins.


So the CCP did not deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they did actually do it, but the other side did it as well?

Is English your second language?


The problem is not my English skills but your crippled comprehension skills, and inability to understand causes -  itself the result of your blind delusional "freedom" ideology - delusional because individual freedom/rights cannot exist except under law, if there  is more than one individual in the world. 

And speaking of law, it's been amazing listening to  radio today:  practically  everyone from the Jewish Council of Oz, to Sky News,  as well as UN reps,  have condemend Trump's Gaza plans.

Ie,  despite Jasin' contempt for interantional  law, everyone except the extreme rabid right is at least paying lip servcie to it, and regard Trump as taking us back to before 1945 when 'might was right' and land grabs by colonizing powers were the norm.

[Unfortunately these same leaders don't understand WHY international law has failed to institute peace and security.]

Back to the Chinese civil war: revolution leads to war against the status quo, eg in France in 1789, one of the King's more far-sighted economic advisers told the King to raise taxes on the aristocracy...the King listened, but gave way to the aristocracy who resisted, resulting in the 'reign of terror' and the destruction of the Monarchy - aka the French Revolution. 

A century later, after Europe had industrialized, educated Marxist revolutionaries mounted revolutions in the still backward  subsistence agricultural economies of  Russia and China in which  the vast majority of people were poverty-stricken  serfs oppressed by the ruling class.

Back  to your ill-formed  question, namely:

"So the CCP did not deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they did actually do it, but the other side did it as well?"

Answer: well....yes (leaving aside the issue of "deliberate"); if an oppressor (ruling class)  won't take his hands  off your neck, you fight back however you can. 

And unfortunately,  international law still can't deal with oppressors.



   


 




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Reply #679 - Feb 6th, 2025 at 9:55am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 9:50am:
Back  to your ill-formed  question, namely:

"So the CCP did not deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they did actually do it, but the other side did it as well?"

Well....yes, leaving aside the issue of "deliberate";


Can you explain your logic here? I am not asking you to repeat what you have already said about 20 times, but to explain it. Why does tacking a lame excuse onto what they did change the truth of whether they did it? Are you so indoctrinated into CCP propaganda that you have lost all sense of truth?

Also, why did you claim so many times that the CCP did not slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?

Also, why are you making an issue of whether it was deliberate? Are you going to say it was accidental, like when they followed it up by starving about 50 million people to death?

Also, just to get you in the habit of telling the truth, can you answer the question in the original form: Did the CCP deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?
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Reply #680 - Feb 8th, 2025 at 10:20am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 9:55am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 9:50am:
Back  to your ill-formed  question, namely:

"So the CCP did not deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they did actually do it, but the other side did it as well?"

Well....yes, leaving aside the issue of "deliberate";


Can you explain your logic here? I am not asking you to repeat what you have already said about 20 times, but to explain it. Why does tacking a lame excuse onto what they did change the truth of whether they did it?


YOUR error in logic:   you noted "the other side did it as well".

Are you denying Nationalists and Commies slaughtered oneanother?

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Also, just to get you in the habit of telling the truth, can you answer the question in the original form: Did the CCP deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?


Your question in its original form denies reality, as explained (again) above.
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Reply #681 - Feb 10th, 2025 at 8:37am
 
It does not deny reality. It is a simple question.

Did the CCP deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?
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Reply #682 - Feb 10th, 2025 at 3:36pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 10th, 2025 at 8:37am:
It does not deny reality. It is a simple question.


Wrong -  it is a dumb question which denies reality, as expected from a delusional "individual freedom" ideologue.

How else could Marxists introduce 'an economy which works for all" (the Marxist ideal) in China in 1949?

The Nationalist  capitalist pigs wanted to maintain their own privileged positions in post imperial China, so the Commies fought the self-interested capitalist bastards (my use of highly-charged  ideological terms is deliberate, you blind "individual freedom" ideologue.....)   
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Did the CCP deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?


See above.

Now prove to us you ARE ideologically blind, by repeating your dumb question ad nauseam....

You need to keep abreast of developments and debates in the present global reality, examined in the last few MMT posts (with  increasing numbers of views now over 100K, apparently). 
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Reply #683 - Feb 11th, 2025 at 8:04am
 
You appear to have given two completely different answers to the question. Which one is true?

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Reply #684 - Feb 11th, 2025 at 9:24am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 8:04am:
You appear to have given two completely different answers to the question. Which one is true?


Outline for us what you consider 'appears' to  be 2 completely different answers to your (dumb) question.

Speaking of which :

TGD: "Now prove to us you ARE ideologically blind, by repeating your dumb question ad nauseam.   

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Did the CCP deliberately slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people?


Bingo - right on cue, as predicted.


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Reply #685 - Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:21am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Feb 10th, 2025 at 4:40pm:
So you think the CCP was wrong to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people in order to seize power?


The CCP was right - given the absence of international  law in defence of common prosperity  -  to slaughter the self-interested capitalist pigs who slaughtered millions of Chinese in an effort to resist the Marxist  revolution in China, to maintain  their own privileged position in the economy.   


Are you saying that the CCP was right to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they resisted being slaughtered?
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Reply #686 - Feb 11th, 2025 at 12:10pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:21am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Feb 10th, 2025 at 4:40pm:
So you think the CCP was wrong to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people in order to seize power?


The CCP was right - given the absence of international  law in defence of common prosperity  -  to slaughter the self-interested capitalist pigs who slaughtered millions of Chinese in an effort to resist the Marxist  revolution in China, to maintain  their own privileged position in the economy.   


Are you saying that the CCP was right to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they resisted being slaughtered?


No, I'm saying your blind 'individual freedom' delusions - fully exposed in the 'foundations' thread as well as in this thread, but ignored by you - is the reason you ask endless stupid questions,  which we all have experienced from you on Ozpol in many different threads.

Now you are simply resorting to repeating  the same stupid question ad nauseam.

Deplorable, a good example of the psychosis underlying the "human condition" (endless wars, entrenched poverty) as examined by Jeremy Griffiths (google, for those who want to learn, FD is beyond reach).
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Reply #687 - Feb 12th, 2025 at 10:13am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 12:10pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:21am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Feb 10th, 2025 at 4:40pm:
So you think the CCP was wrong to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people in order to seize power?


The CCP was right - given the absence of international  law in defence of common prosperity  -  to slaughter the self-interested capitalist pigs who slaughtered millions of Chinese in an effort to resist the Marxist  revolution in China, to maintain  their own privileged position in the economy.   


Are you saying that the CCP was right to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they resisted being slaughtered?


No


So you think the CCP was wrong to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people in order to seize power?

I would not have to repeat the question if I could get straight, consistent answers. You claim the Chinese people have no need to defend themselves from the CCP, and also claimed the Chinese people are more able to defend themselves, though you won't say how. But you are also generally supportive of the CCP slaughtering Chinese citizens by the tens of millions, and happily trott out the usual propaganda about "capitalist pigs" who deserve to die. I expect this would be very concerning to any modern successful Chinese person because they are the ones the CCP slaughtered first when they came to power. Or at least, they ought to be concerned, but the CCP feeds them constant lies and hides the truth from them. How many people will die next time the CCP has a big, incredibly stupid idea? All the CCP appears to have learned from history is that they can get away with literally anything if they kill enough people.
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Reply #688 - Feb 12th, 2025 at 2:28pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2025 at 10:13am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 12:10pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:21am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Feb 10th, 2025 at 4:40pm:
So you think the CCP was wrong to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people in order to seize power?


The CCP was right - given the absence of international  law in defence of common prosperity  -  to slaughter the self-interested capitalist pigs who slaughtered millions of Chinese in an effort to resist the Marxist  revolution in China, to maintain  their own privileged position in the economy.   


Are you saying that the CCP was right to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people because they resisted being slaughtered?


No


So you think the CCP was wrong to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people in order to seize power?


No - allowing for the fact the question is dumb because you are ignoring responsibility -  because self-interested capitalist pigs (like you) who insisted on maintaining  their economic privileges in the nation's subsistence agrarian economy,  FORCED the commies to fight for common prosperity (the Marxist ideal).

Your ideological blinkers prevent you from examining  WHO was responsible for the ensuing slaughter.   

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I would not have to repeat the question if I could get straight, consistent answers.


Your question is still  dumb as explained many times, perhaps each time you ask we make a tiny bit of progress.

eg I have elucidated, once again, the issue of responsibility for the slaughter in a civil war. 

Apropos: in this case we have established your blind, survival of the fittest, delusional "individual freedom" ideology was responsible for the civil war. 

[....the travails of educating the blind man....(who also can't see why Palestinians resisted the confiscation of part of their land  in 1947...it's a basic human instinct, like fighting to ovecome  economic privilege and injustice].
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Reply #689 - Feb 13th, 2025 at 7:46am
 
So you think the CCP was right to slaughter tens of millions of Chinese people, and it wasn't their fault because they had no choice and are not responsible for their actions?
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