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Reply #30 - Jun 17^th, 2024 at 3:28pm

Noosa Has Fallen!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/kabi-kabi-people-recognised-as-native-t...

Wonder if anyone has defined what 'native title' actually means? Or is it just left up in the air and full of loop-holes that will slowly be closed off to 'outsiders' using government money?

"A determination by Justice Berna Collier at a special hearing in Brisbane on Monday recognised the Kabi Kabi people's non-exclusive rights to an area including Gympie, Noosa, Maroochydore, Caloundra, Bribie Island and Mudjimba Island."

This'll be good ....

"It is also the first time that the right to "take resources from the area for any purpose" is being recognised in South-East Queensland."

Now then - what are these 'resources'? Are they defined - you know - like fish, drink of water, hunt a goanna, go yabbying, grab a bit of firewood ..... what about the gold, the silver the oil uncovered by the White Man's sorcerous equipment... what about Joe Blanckovski's car??

What exactly ARE the loop-holes... the 'wriggle room' ..... for 'sympathetic' public servants to push through at your massive expense while any other stakeholder has to carry the fight with $10 in pocket? Lawfare at its very best.... funded by YOU!

"Monday's determination recognises the Kabi Kabi people's rights to "access, be present on, move about on and travel over the area", which is about 10,280 square kilometres in total.

Justice Collier told the court the decision did not confer on the native title holders "possession, occupation, use or enjoyment to the exclusion of all others, including other interests as defined in the judgement and which continue to have effect".

The native title rights and interests are subject to the laws of the state and the Commonwealth as well as the traditional laws and customs observed by the native title holders."

"Kabi Kabi Elder Michael Douglas said this would mean the right to access the resources his ancestors had been using for thousands of years.

"That gives us our rights to go back and utilise, for our people to take timber ... to make boomerangs or spears," he said."

[i]"Tim Wishart, chief executive of Queensland South Native Title Services, which assisted Kabi Kabi people with their claim, said the decision was an acknowledgment of the rights of traditional owners.

"Kabi Kabi people have a right to move about on the land, to camp on the land, to build temporary structures, to teach their kids, to take some resources, to hunt, fish," he said.

"Rights that coexist with the rights that every other Australian has."[/i]

Well now - she's certified their current rights... they have access to Open Range, can be present on it, move about on it and travel over the area.... same as everyone else..... been telling yez that 'native title' is a scam all ways - so let's hear it from the monkeys about how this is all about 'punching down on the poor old Abo' ... it's a scam all ways - the 'native title holders' don't own the land and they can't build a home etc..... so what benefit is there for them?

You see, outside of Idiotsville - Lawfare cuts all ways..... but I sure love baiting the monkeys here.... got 'em all riled up and rearing to go....

Now then - about those super-recalcitrants and Gondwanamo Bay .... all the serial criminals get a shot under native law in Abestine/Two State Solution/Aborassic Park - either the Elders straighten them out, or failing that they go to Gondwanamo with the Evil Lebs and other bomb makers etc.

As long as they're out of our hair somewhere. Cool

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Reply #31 - Jun 19^th, 2024 at 5:47am

Let's keep an eye on this one:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/travel/news/kabi-kabi-elders-say-life-will-still-go-on...

"Indigenous elders say a landmark native title claim in heavily urbanised and tourist destinations of south-east Queensland will not change the way people enjoy or live in the area.

The Federal Court on Monday formally recognised the Kabi Kabi people as native title holders over 365,345 hectares of land and water on Queensland's Sunshine Coast.

The Sunshine Coast is one of the most populated areas in regional Queensland, with more than 317,000 people calling it home.

The determination marks the first occasion on Australia's east coast when native title has been recognised in a heavily urbanised area.

Native title is the name Australian law gives to the traditional ownership of land and waters that have always belonged to Aboriginal people according to their traditions, laws and customs.
The Commonwealth Native Title Act sets out how native title rights are to be recognised and protected.

Kabi Kabi traditional owner Brian Warner said the native title declaration does not apply to any land used by the government or any freehold land that's been bought by citizens.

"It applies to Aboriginal land or unallocated state land, areas of cultural significance," Mr Warner said.

"National parks, state forests and reserves."

The decision recognises the Kabi Kabi people's non-exclusive rights to areas including Gympie, Maroochydore, Caloundra, Bribie Island, Mudjimba Island and popular tourist areas around Noosa North Shore and Teewah Beach.

Queensland South Native Title Services CEO Tim Wishart said Queenslanders and visitors will notice little, if any, difference to areas under native title even if they own property in the region.

"For mainstream Australia, native title is a relatively benign thing, it is not going to affect them," he said.

"The Kabi Kabi people were recognised as holding non-exclusive native title, that means that the rights are exercisable subject to the laws of the state and the Commonwealth.

"They can't prohibit people from going places, they can't stop people going onto beaches, or onto Mudjimba Island or Mount Coolum. Native title isn't a grant of land, it's a recognition of rights."

The traditional country of the Kabi Kabi People is along the Sunshine Coast from north of Brisbane to the Gregory and Isaac rivers south of Bundaberg.

The land also takes in the eastern part of the coastal ranges including the volcanic Glasshouse Mountains and the Mary River, which flows from the Conondale Ranges to the sea near Maryborough.

The court's decision only applies to Part A of the Kabi Kabi people's claim, which extends in the south from Elimbah Creek catchment area, Sandstone Point and Bribie Island, north to Cooloola National Park, Curra State Forest, Mary River and the Isis River, and in the east from lowest astronomical tide of the coastline west to Nambour, Jimna and the Burnett and Coast ranges.

Queensland South Native Title Service's Tim Wishart says Parts B and C of the claim are yet to be determined.

"Part B is a heavily urbanised area starting at about Caboolture and going south, and that's still under assessment by the state," he said.

"Part C is an area in which some other Indigenous people assert they hold native title rights.

"The court might have to decide who has rights then, that will happen in the future, I don't know exactly when."

There are many sacred and ceremonial sites on Kabi Kabi land including bora rings, used for gatherings, dancing, and ceremonies, as well as axe grinding and painting sites.

Brian Warner said the short answer is, no.

"Life hasn't ended, and life will still go on the way it's been happening up until today," Mr Warner said.

"So, nothing will cease.

"The only thing is people recognising our right to reside on country or be part of a part of a local community or grassroots level or whatever level we're at."

The Kabi Kabi people have been lobbying for decades to receive native title recognition.

Their first native title claim was lodged in the mid 1990s."

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Reply #32 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:07am

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:01am:

It's really very amusing. Crappler thinks he's contributing to the wider body of research by copy and pasting links from Sky "news" into a dying forum almost nobody sees. And even those that see it ignore him.

You've got to admit, that's worth a laugh.

You're not even laugh worthy you're so pathetic.

Grapplers links were not from "Sky" news.

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Reply #33 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 9:25am

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"Indigenous elders say a landmark native title claim in heavily urbanised and tourist destinations of south-east Queensland will not change the way people enjoy or live in the area.

The Federal Court on Monday formally recognised the Kabi Kabi people as native title holders over 365,345 hectares/902,787 acres of land and water on Queensland's Sunshine Coast.(nearly a million acres
or 3,653 square kilometers)

The Sunshine Coast is one of the most populated areas in regional Queensland, with more than 317,000 people calling it home.

The determination marks the first occasion on Australia's east coast when native title has been recognised in a heavily urbanised area.

Native title is the name Australian law gives to the traditional ownership of land and waters that have always belonged to Aboriginal people according to their traditions, laws and customs.
The Commonwealth Native Title Act sets out how native title rights are to be recognised and protected.

Kabi Kabi traditional owner Brian Warner said the native title declaration does not apply to any land used by the government or any freehold land that's been bought by citizens.

"It applies to Aboriginal land or unallocated state land, areas of cultural significance," Mr Warner said.

"National parks, state forests and reserves."

The decision recognises the Kabi Kabi people's non-exclusive rights to areas including Gympie, Maroochydore, Caloundra, Bribie Island, Mudjimba Island and popular tourist areas around Noosa North Shore and Teewah Beach.

Queensland South Native Title Services CEO Tim Wishart said Queenslanders and visitors will notice little, if any, difference to areas under native title even if they own property in the region.

"For mainstream Australia, native title is a relatively benign thing, it is not going to affect them," he said.

"The Kabi Kabi people were recognised as holding non-exclusive native title, that means that the rights are exercisable subject to the laws of the state and the Commonwealth.

"They can't prohibit people from going places, they can't stop people going onto beaches, or onto Mudjimba Island or Mount Coolum. Native title isn't a grant of land, it's a recognition of rights."

The traditional country of the Kabi Kabi People is along the Sunshine Coast from north of Brisbane to the Gregory and Isaac rivers south of Bundaberg.

The land also takes in the eastern part of the coastal ranges including the volcanic Glasshouse Mountains and the Mary River, which flows from the Conondale Ranges to the sea near Maryborough.

The court's decision only applies to Part A of the Kabi Kabi people's claim, which extends in the south from Elimbah Creek catchment area, Sandstone Point and Bribie Island, north to Cooloola National Park, Curra State Forest, Mary River and the Isis River, and in the east from lowest astronomical tide of the coastline west to Nambour, Jimna and the Burnett and Coast ranges.

Queensland South Native Title Service's Tim Wishart says Parts B and C of the claim are yet to be determined.

"Part B is a heavily urbanised area starting at about Caboolture and going south, and that's still under assessment by the state," he said.

"Part C is an area in which some other Indigenous people assert they hold native title rights.

"The court might have to decide who has rights then, that will happen in the future, I don't know exactly when."

There are many sacred and ceremonial sites on Kabi Kabi land including bora rings, used for gatherings, dancing, and ceremonies, as well as axe grinding and painting sites.

Brian Warner said the short answer is, no.

"Life hasn't ended, and life will still go on the way it's been happening up until today," Mr Warner said.

"So, nothing will cease.

"The only thing is people recognising our right to reside on country or be part of a part of a local community or grassroots level or whatever level we're at."

The Kabi Kabi people have been lobbying for decades to receive native title recognition.

Their first native title claim was lodged in the mid 1990s."

I'll put it down to a type-o where they mention "Isaac" river, it's the "Isis" River,which is mentioned again spelt correctly further down.

That brings to a point of where one groups boundaries end and another starts. Making/granting this massive native title claim they have said will not be exclusionary to non Aboriginals and people will still be able to do what they've always done

so why has an area(made a public issue) at Burrum Heads that is also Kabi Kabi/Gubbi Gubbi country been included in the Butchulla Native title claim on Fraser Island?
And they closed off an area of foreshore to the public stopping access to the beach.

What I take exception to is "being allowed to erect temporary shelters" where ever they like.

All temporary shelters or fishing shacks built anywhere on state land by non indigenous people going back nearly 100 years have been removed in the last 20 to 30 years. It's not allowed.

Further more when they set up these temporary shelters etc. what are they going to use as toilet amenities? What specifically are the natural resources? Shouldn't be mining resources.

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Re: Queensland Lawfare
Reply #34 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 1:16pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 20^th, 2024 at 8:07am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:01am:

It's really very amusing. Crappler thinks he's contributing to the wider body of research by copy and pasting links from Sky "news" into a dying forum almost nobody sees. And even those that see it ignore him.

You've got to admit, that's worth a laugh.

You're not even laugh worthy you're so pathetic.

Grapplers links were not from "Sky" news.

The forum isn't 'dying' either - it's actually becoming a force for positive change in the Madness that has been sweeping the country. This is not the first time that something posted and argued here has been either repeated verbatim in public comment by a politician or has become the way things are done - reasonably so that all are on the same page as with this issue of 'land title'.

Yes - posting the links and comments (some just vanish apart from their headline -the ones about such things as 'claims.. hmmmm) shows that in the first ten or so half were ABC, some Guardian and others AAP - and all of two Sky.

Mothra's, and a few other's, imaginations have gotten hold of them and they have lost their minds over Sky. As I said - I scarcely watch Sky other than when there's nothing on and I might drop in for a few minutes to see what's under discussion.

I loathe pro-Hamas people, so here - England's Telegraph:-

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/michael-palin-s-honorary-oxford-degree-cere...

Oh! Lookee here - Sky had the temerity to ask a question!!!! The horror - the horror.... think of the children.. can't have them discussing this kind of thing..... ummmm... wait a minute... ummmmm.. should we even be considering such things?... Ummmm... don't you DARE raise anything remotely controversial for discussion here! We take our put-downs very seriously in the Fourth Reich (under development from the Neo-neoconservatives like trannies desperately hanging on to their 'established science' under the dire threat of Cass and the full body of knowledge being assembled and analysed by experts worldwide)....

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/should-under-18s-be-able-to-vote/vi-BB1nU3E... (NO! Too bloody dorky and full of it!)...

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Reply #36 - Jun 20^th, 2024 at 2:07pm

"so why has an area(made a public issue) at Burrum Heads that is also Kabi Kabi/Gubbi Gubbi country been included in the Butchulla Native title claim on Fraser Island?
And they closed off an area of foreshore to the public stopping access to the beach."

I'm waiting on the declaration from Bris-Brain that there will be an access corridor 'shared' for everyone - same as waiting for Ho chi Minns to declare Mt Warning open again and get to work repairing the track. It's a state election year - hold firm - if they don;t overturn these insane decisions - VOTE THEM OUT!

It shocks me that in the same area where the Federal Court has finally come out and made clear the restrictions on 'native title', your state 'government' of Neo-Fascists are flatly refusing to fix their obvious mistake there of chopping off access to a public beach.

WTF do they think they are?

VOTE THEM OUT! GET SOMEONE IN WHO WILL DO THE JOB PROPERLY!

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Reply #37 - Jun 24^th, 2024 at 9:31pm

... and the lawfare rolls on.... one part of the definition is the use of law as a weapon of war....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-government-to-challenge-abor...

"Queensland government to challenge Aboriginal group's exclusive use claim of Great Keppel Island land

An Aboriginal corporation has lodged a native title claim for exclusive use of land on Great Keppel Island-Woppa on the southern Great Barrier Reef.

The Woppaburra people are hoping to claim nine square kilometres of land on Great Keppel Island, off the central Queensland coast near Rockhampton and known traditionally as Woppa, including an air strip and the abandoned "party paradise" Mercure resort.

The Queensland government will challenge the claim.

"Since the closing of the resort site in 2007 the then-new owners failed to remove debris, render the site safe, commence any ventures to rehabilitate the island, or restore any confidence in a viable future," the Woppaburra Saltwater Aboriginal Corporation (WSAC) said this morning.
"The island environment and infrastructure have deteriorated to the point where visitations have reduced and local businesses have suffered.

"We have an obligation to work towards improving this situation."

In 2021 the traditional owners were formally recognised as the native title holders over several islands in the area, including parts of Great Keppel.

They are now seeking exclusive rights to parts of the island, including the airstrip and an abandoned, derelict resort.

Premier Steven Miles it was not unusual for the state government to oppose exclusive use.

"This happens quite commonly. There is a native title process that these claims go through, and the state as an interested party, as a significant land holder, is a respondent and we respond on behalf of the state," he said.

"We seek to make sure that the aspirations of First Nations people can be realised while also ensuring Queenslanders can continue to have access to the places they love."

Sustainable development
WSAC added if the exclusive use claim was successful it could take decades for any change in tenure to be recognised."

Well - they brought it on themselves.... maybe they'll re-consider the wisdom of 'treaties' now..... I doubt it.... not a bright lot these politicians. Of course they want the airstrip and the resort..... that way they can live in the resort and stop other people from landing there.

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Reply #38 - Jun 25^th, 2024 at 8:25pm

Oooh - good old Queensland.... leading the way again.... stoopid is as stoopid does, suh, and enough is never enough ... nobody seems to know what 'native title' means - so better to simply abolish it in entirety .....

I TOLD YOU SO!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/residents-angered-over-secretive-indige...

Residents angered over 'secretive' Indigenous land grab
Story by David Southwell For Daily Mail Australia

"Locals are up in arms over what is being called a 'secretive' land grab after an Indigenous corporation bid for freehold ownership of the two main townships on south-east Queensland's K'gari (formerly Fraser Island).

The Butchulla people, who hold native title over most of K'gari along with freehold lease on 30hectares, have lodged the claim to five square kilometres of Eurong and Happy Valley transferred to them as 'inalienable freehold' under the Aboriginal Land Act.

Locals claim they were only told the transfer was 'definitely happening' at a meeting last week with the Department of Resources, Butchulla Aboriginal Corporation and Fraser Coast Council.
Fraser Island Association president David Anderson said the move only comes because of an apparent administrative blunder in the 1960s that failed to gazette the township reserves for Eurong and Happy Valley.

Mr Anderson said there were fears non-Indigenous residents and tourists could be locked out of the new area after the Butchulla Aboriginal Corporation allegedly said they would be viewed as 'trespassers'.

'We believe that's going to be the attitude for all of their land,' Mr Anderson told the Courier Mail.

'They want land. They've got Native Title over the rest of the island and now they want even more freehold than they've already got. It's just a gimme. I mean, how much do you want?'

Happy Valley Community Association secretary Scott Bell accused those involved of making a 'secretive deal' and said it only came to light by 'accident'.

'They (the Butchulla) made a claim on our police reserve, our education reserve and the esplanade which effectively denies us access to the beach,' he said.

'What people don't realise is that the block of land next door where you go to exercise or walk your dog, you may not be able to do that in the future.'

A Department of Resources spokesman denied a deal had been made and said the meeting last week was to keep the community informed.

'The department continues to work with the Butchulla people, the Fraser Coast Regional Council and the community on the proposed transfers,' the spokesperson said.

Mr Bell said if the transfer goes ahead his association was ready to mount a legal challenge.

On Sunday the Queensland government announced it would challenge a Native Title claim for exclusive ownership and use of Great Keppel Island.

Traditional owners the Woppaburra people submitted a fresh claim to the region off the Capricorn Coast in Central Queensland.

The claim - which is in its pre-notification stage - petitions for the exclusive possession of nine lots and one partial lot totalling just over nine square metres.

In 2021, the Woppaburra people were formally recognised as the traditional owners and Native Title holders of 570sq m of land and sea off the coast of Yeppoon.

The recognition also granted the Woppaburra people exclusive use over parts of Great Keppel Island.

However, the native title did not include the resort on the island, which was run by Contiki and was under a private lease held by Tower Holdings.

The resort, which was a popular tourist attraction, was abandoned in 2008 and subsequently demolished 10 years later.

The Queensland government then cancelled Tower Holdings' lease in 2023 over unpaid rent owed by the operator in the amount of almost $900,000.

The termination of the lease allowed the Woppaburra people to submit a second native title claim which included the area covered by the resort and its airstrip.

It is understood the area may not be considered vacant land but rather as a strategic land management reserve under the Department of Resources."

Native Title can only be claimed on vacant Crown land that is not gazetted for another purpose.

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Reply #40 - Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:38am

Gnads wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:04am:

Yes this Butchulla mob are a piece of work. Getting worse by the day.

And the sleeping beauties here and elsewhere reckon it's not happening.... and have no real idea.... and don't care anyway since it's not their homes being grabbed and their lifestyles destroyed deliberately.

This style of 'government' has to be stopped..... believe me or not.... these appointed mate public servants - given a fat 'job' on contract as reward for their 'service to the agenda' have to be dragged out and booted into the gutters to live... the stacked judiciary must receive the same treatment ....and elected government must be brought to heel.

I'm not the only one who can clearly see that Neo-Feudalism is taking over this country.... and it is not good for anyone but them and their mates.

I want you to read this carefully ... see any contradictions:-

"A Department of Resources spokesman denied a deal had been made and said the meeting last week was to keep the community informed.

'The department continues to work with the Butchulla people, the Fraser Coast Regional Council and the community on the proposed transfers,' the spokesperson said."

SEE ANY CONTRADICTIONS?

"Let me make myself perfectly clear here - NO deal has been done on these proposed transfers... and Clinton did NOT have sex with that woman!! when we talk about proposed transfers, we are only talking about what we are planning to do, with or without your leave or even input if you live there....and under no circumstances are you permitted to even suggest that means some deal has been done behind your backs! Mind your own business, you home owners, voters, and others.... and leave your betters to do their jobs!!"

Aside:- Why do you imagine that our 'immigration' is primarily from those countries with a massively inbuilt 'caste' system .... wherein the Overlord holds absolute sway ...... are you all asleep all of the time? Your country and your homes are being stolen from under your feet and you go out and play bowls.... you watch Albo and Dutto and their antics and think they are just a pair of cute monkeys.... good for a laugh over a beer then home ...

Those people could not be more dead serious about what they are doing..... they and their henchpersons at all levels of government including the 'heads' of departments who have been snuck in on us from the ranks of the faithful to push the same agenda ....

Do you imagine that the Queensland government couldn't just walk in, say 'this is what native title means, so forget it' - and that's it? You think the 'Federal court' could - and should - not just walk in and say - 'no acceptable under Native title - you've got your freehold and that's it."?

Why do you imagine the elected government in Queersland does not order its department to cease and desist from the invasion of people's private properties and homes and the destruction of their quiet lives in retirement?

WTF do they all think they are? F

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king Emperors? Take back the asylums NOW!

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Reply #41 - Jun 26^th, 2024 at 11:12am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:38am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 10:04am:

Yes this Butchulla mob are a piece of work. Getting worse by the day.

And the sleeping beauties here and elsewhere reckon it's not happening.... and have no real idea.... and don't care anyway since it's not their homes being grabbed and their lifestyles destroyed deliberately.

This style of 'government' has to be stopped..... believe me or not.... these appointed mate public servants - given a fat 'job' on contract as reward for their 'service to the agenda' have to be dragged out and booted into the gutters to live... the stacked judiciary must receive the same treatment ....and elected government must be brought to heel.

I'm not the only one who can clearly see that Neo-Feudalism is taking over this country.... and it is not good for anyone but them and their mates.

I want you to read this carefully ... see any contradictions:-

"A Department of Resources spokesman denied a deal had been made and said the meeting last week was to keep the community informed.

'The department continues to work with the Butchulla people, the Fraser Coast Regional Council and the community on the proposed transfers,' the spokesperson said."

SEE ANY CONTRADICTIONS?

"Let me make myself perfectly clear here - NO deal has been done on these proposed transfers... and Clinton did NOT have sex with that woman!! when we talk about proposed transfers, we are only talking about what we are planning to do, with or without your leave or even input if you live there....and under no circumstances are you permitted to even suggest that means some deal has been done behind your backs! Mind your own business, you home owners, voters, and others.... and leave your betters to do their jobs!!"

Aside:- Why do you imagine that our 'immigration' is primarily from those countries with a massively inbuilt 'caste' system .... wherein the Overlord holds absolute sway ...... are you all asleep all of the time? Your country and your homes are being stolen from under your feet and you go out and play bowls.... you watch Albo and Dutto and their antics and think they are just a pair of cute monkeys.... good for a laugh over a beer then home ...

Those people could not be more dead serious about what they are doing..... they and their henchpersons at all levels of government including the 'heads' of departments who have been snuck in on us from the ranks of the faithful to push the same agenda ....

Do you imagine that the Queensland government couldn't just walk in, say 'this is what native title means, so forget it' - and that's it? You think the 'Federal court' could - and should - not just walk in and say - 'no acceptable under Native title - you've got your freehold and that's it."?

Why do you imagine the elected government in Queersland does not order its department to cease and desist from the invasion of people's private properties and homes and the destruction of their quiet lives in retirement?

WTF do they all think they are? F

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king Emperors? Take back the asylums NOW!

re: your highlights ... I certainly did ...

that's just bureaucratic weasel talk for we are going to go ahead & do it.

Couldn't lie straight in bed.

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Re: Queensland Lawfare
Reply #42 - Jun 26^th, 2024 at 11:17am

Precisely!!

Now who among those residents there has the money to take on a huge bureaucracy and the government itself in the same government's stacked courts?

Who is going to back them in their desperate fight to simply keep their homes and peace and their quiet lifestyle? Which 'party' is going to stand up for them?

War is being waged on them right now.... with government funding and approval.

WTF??

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SadKangaroo Gold Member Offline #FightStupid Posts: 16488 Mianjin (Brisbane)	Re: Queensland Lawfare Reply #43 - Jun 26^th, 2024 at 12:37pm Still not lawfare to bring in the voice by stealth, how embarrassing.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83178 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Queensland Lawfare Reply #44 - Jun 26^th, 2024 at 5:00pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 26^th, 2024 at 12:37pm: Still not lawfare to bring in the voice by stealth, how embarrassing. It's all right - we all understand your lacks... your choice to be blind to reality, troll.
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