Never been a problem - makes no difference to the fact that the original voice demand was not just a simple advisory board.... but a foot in the door for all the rest.... a 105 page crafted demand cunningly built into a pretty single page, just an advertisement, for Albo to hold up and rant about .....  now don't blow a gasket.... 61% of the people got it right the first time..... now they have to deal with treachery behind their backs....

You seem to struggle with the simple idea that people saw through the voice as being the 'front man' for all the garbage going on now..... and that therefore the continuation of the agenda set down for the voice IS the voice by stealth.

None so blind....

Keep at it - you'll work it out one day.....

Land claim over Penrith Stadium.... this gets better by the moment.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/300m-stadium-project-thrown-into-turmoi...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/plibersek-releases-reasons-why-1bn-mcphi...

"Federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek has found the 'irreversible' and 'permanent' loss to Aboriginal heritage outweighed the financial cost of halting a $1 billion gold mine development in the New South Wales Central West.

Ms Plibersek today released the Statement of Reasons behind her decision to protect part of the Belubula River, its headwaters and springs near Blayney, from the tailings dam earmarked for the site by Regis Resources McPhillamys gold mine.

In August, the Minister accepted an application by a coalition of Wiradyuri elders to protect the area from 'injury' or 'desecration' due to its cultural significance.

In the document, Ms Plibersek acknowledged Regis Resources' financial interests would be affected by her decision.

"I was satisfied that the proprietary and pecuniary impacts to the proponent and others do not outweigh the irreversible damage and permanent loss to the Aboriginal cultural heritage in the declared area," she wrote.

"The long-term effect on cultural heritage is permanent, and the loss of cultural heritage cannot be mitigated or reversed."

The statement noted Regis Resources argued the decision would eliminate the project's job opportunities, absolve the financial benefit to the Blayney community, and compromise other indirect benefits, such as population growth, education and training.

"I was satisfied that a partial declaration would make the proposed mine unviable in the state in which it is currently proposed and approved," the Minister found.

She also acknowledged that while the company could investigate other sites for the tailings dam, that would cost '"time and resources implications".

NSW laws not 'effective' enough
Ms Plibersek concluded the applicable NSW legislation did not provide "effective protection" over the Belubula headwaters.

The document outlined Regis Resources' position that an Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Management Plan for the site would be an "adequate tool" for protection.

But the statement found that plan would not cover "intangible heritage," and instead relate to Aboriginal objects.

The document also said the two pieces of state legislation that could render protections to the site — the National Parks and Wildlife Act and the Heritage Act — both would not apply to the approved State Significant Development.

"For these reasons, I formed the view that NSW legislation does not provide effective protection of the declared area," wrote Minister Plibersek.

The Minister found the Belubula headwaters were "sacred" to the Wiradjuri people and their Blue Banded Bee Dreaming tradition, which narrates how the springs were formed.

She noted that the coalition of elders that made the protection application — the Wiradyuri Traditional Owners Central West Aboriginal Corporation — said the Dreaming would be taught at the site for pre-initiation ceremonies.

Minister Plibersek wrote that she considered Senior Wiradyuri Elder Dinawan Dyirribang Uncle Bill Allen's testimony that the site is like a "big university for our young fellas to come to to get their learning".

The statement outlined both Regis Resources and the Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council's position that the Bee Dreaming did not exist, and challenged why the tradition was not raised in the initial protection application.

But the Minister found that the Dreaming was passed down to specific custodians, and the relevant prominent elder with that knowledge was in hospital at the time of consultation about the decision.

Regis Resources declined to comment on the Statement of Reasons, but previously said the protection order made the gold mine unviable, and it would take a decade to find another suitable location for the tailings dam.

Speaking exclusively to the ABC, elders from the Wiradyuri Traditional Owners Central West Aboriginal Corporation previously said they had been 'slandered', 'threatened and harassed' after the Minister's decision.

They said the site held great spiritual importance to their community.

Previously the Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council had opposed the mine, before changing its position to neutral following consultation with Regis.

The gold mine was given the go-ahead by the NSW independent Planning Commission in March 2023.

Minister Plibersek's decision in August sparked widespread political criticism from the Federal Opposition and NSW Premier Chris Minns. "

Sacred site... WHY is it a sacred site?  There'll be no payout or royalties now anyway.

... and what have we here.... mutual cultural respect at its finest ....

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/protesters-moved-from-sydney-harbour-ahead-...

"Protests have followed the King during his visit to Australia, with crowds turning out at every stop."

Must have been a lot of fast walking there... the traditional way.... just to make a point....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 25^th, 2024 at 6:05am:


Not lawfare, again.

Was it your flyer drop?

Start the blog, this is getting embarrasing.

That's not what Albo had in mind when he kept repeating the lie that it was only a simple request - for a special house in Parliament, absolute rights and control over country, water and resources, separate sovereignty while continuing to enjoy every privilege of Australian citizenship, special rights to be freehold gifted land that anyone else has to save work and pay for ... the usual Apartheid things ...... but you all know the list as well as I do.....

And the people said NO - so stop persisting with the voice by stealth and apartheid by stealth.

Ooooh - Kanga is here swiping at air as usual...         now there is one terrified activist - terrified the truth will come out.... people know it already, you know - they say so all over this country in their comments on these things being pushed on them.... the only way they get a Voice, you see...  they know what you lot are up to and how you are going about it - funny how the media doesn't cover them, eh?  That Majority With No Voice - the ones excluded from the silly 'voice' proposal'.

Let's just consider it this way - if fifty people put on a show in Corowa, population 5549, and there was not huge turnout to oppose them... where did they come from again? - doesn't that show you something?

Got it in a nutshell, slick.

"The Voice was an element of the Uluru Statement, the Government's pledge was to the Uluru statement."

You really don't know what you are saying, do you?  Was it your schooling or is it a natural thing with you?

The People spoke over the first part - the underlying foundation of the platform - The People said NO!  So instead of the platform collapsing, this government went over their heads and behind their backs and used the states to push for their Apartheid - which is conveniently, for discussion, labeled the Voice By Stealth.

Not my problem is you can't see that.

Now what part of special right to claim masses of freehold land on some flimsy basis when all others must save to buy a block for a home etc, special and over-weighted privileges to offer a viewpoint on every issue and have their view upheld over all others, what demand for a private state of their own, for a 'sovereignty' that permits them to continue to use the privileges of Australian citizenship while claiming to not be subject to Australian laws etc, for the right to have anything of social and cultural and spiritual value for all to be closed off just to suit ten people who may not even be locals and most certainly not of pure breed, to have all their demands funded by the majority they are seeking to put into second class citizen position - do you find so difficult to understand is both Apartheid and Aboriginal Supremacism?

Let's see what ranting and raving you come back with on that, Leftie?

Footnote:-  I suppose you support the 'right' of schools and delusional doctors to determine whether or not kids should be drugged and cut up over the rights of parents and without full consideration of all factors and issues, and you also support 'Palestine' against 'Israeli Invasion'?

BTW:- I pop in from gardening and other things and taking the Eld Gel to all day doctor runs etc.... it hardly takes a gesture to put foolish ideologues steeped in utter nonsense in their place here.... just look back at all your bitchy assumptions and slurs there in the last few posts, slick... you would be infantile no matter how old your body is, just like the meaningless comment mothra and the bluff stupid Smith.