Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 27^th, 2024 at 12:03pm:


If you haven't defined it, you can't expect anyone to "just accept" it.

You tried that with The Voice and got humiliated, so it's no surprise you'll run from it around lawfare too.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 27^th, 2024 at 12:25pm:


The Voice was clearly defined, you kept attributing anything indigenous as being the voice, or the voice by stealth.

You've somewhat changed that now after a stunning backdown in the face of defeat and simply call it "lawfare".

But just like you tried to make "the voice" a generic term for you to hide behind when pushing your hate, you're trying to do that now for "lawfare".

You're a one-trick donkey, and we're frankly over the trick.

You hate Indigenous Australians and are jealous of every time an issue that even barely involves them makes it into the news, so jealous it makes you angry and you cannot fight the urge to rage post about it here.

We're over it.

It does nothing for this place, it does nothing for Indigenous Australians and it does nothing for the country.

I never said everything you post is wrong.  Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I simply pointed out that Indigenous artifacts being returned to their homeland is not lawfare, just like a journo writing about Uluru and visiting it again now after 10+ years, which triggered a colossal meltdown over multiple threads because you know that I'm right.

The only thing you hate more than Indigenous Australians is when I'm right and you're wrong.

Even your most generic interpretation of lawfare, which as I said would include the public holiday in Vic today if taken at face value, isn't enough to encapsulate that.

You need to pick your battles better.

Skirting the edges of the law and exploiting loopholes such as 'too young' are guerrilla lawfare - when it is a deliberate campaign to assault and injure it is guerrilla warfare:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/extra-police-deployed-to-alice-springs-...

Extra police deployed to Alice Springs after officers allegedly targeted in violent weekend of crime

"The Northern Territory police union has condemned a string of violent incidents at the weekend targeting police, claiming local members are being treated like "the community’s punching bags".

NT Police recommenced Operation Archer on Saturday in response to the incidents, which allegedly saw young offenders throw rocks at police, leaving one female officer hospitalised.

The operation, which was previously deployed in August this year, aims to tackle high-risk stolen motor vehicle crimes and has seen additional police deployed to the outback town from Darwin in recent days.

It comes after six people, aged 13 to 20, were arrested overnight Thursday after allegedly taking a stolen car on a joy ride through the CBD, throwing rocks at police and ramming into the back of a police car.

They allegedly later trashed a parked police car before damaging two officers' personal vehicles and smashing the windows of two security vehicles, leaving a security guard with facial injuries.

Five of the alleged offenders appeared in youth court today, with a sixth child to be dealt with under the youth justice act.

Police allege the following night, a group of offenders recklessly drove a stolen car through the CBD, smashing the windscreen of a police car with a rock and injuring a female officer.

She was taken to Alice Springs hospital to have a piece of glass removed from her eye.

"We've got four suspects that we're actively pursuing ... and they're aged between 15 to 17 years of age," Southern Commander James Gray-Spence said.

Late Saturday night, a group of offenders allegedly drove another stolen car dangerously through the CBD, throwing rocks at police and other frontline workers, damaging vehicles but injuring no-one.

Hours later, a security guard was allegedly robbed of his car keys at knifepoint near the Olive Pink Botanical Gardens.

Police eventually managed to apprehend the guard's stolen vehicle after a tense pursuit in which occupants allegedly threw "projectiles", including fireworks, at police.

They arrested seven children, with an 11-year-old later released "into the care of a responsible adult" and two 12-year-olds and two 13-year-olds dealt with under the youth justice act.

The two other alleged offenders, aged 14 and 15, have been charged with robbery, unlawful use of a motor vehicle and violent disorder, and faced the youth court today.

Commander Gray-Spence said he believed the incidents on Saturday and Sunday were linked.

Northern Territory Police Association president Nathan Finn said it was "extremely concerning" vehicles were being "weaponised" against police.

"[These events] are becoming all too common for our members," he said.

"Over the previous 12-month period, we have seen a 45 per cent increase in assaults against our members. This is a significant and disturbing statistic."

He urged the new Country Liberal Party government to take a more “tough on crime” approach, including stricter mandatory sentencing.

"Our members are not the community’s punching bags," he said.

Assistant Commissioner Janelle Tonkin said she was deeply concerned by these "incredibly dangerous behaviours", particularly after an 18-year-old was killed in a similar incident in March.

She said there was an "attention-seeking element" to this offending and urged people to avoid posting videos of the incidents on social media.

"That only seeks to fuel the risk-taking behaviour by these young people," she said.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 5^th, 2024 at 4:01pm:

Did you actually read the article?

Firstly, as this seems to go without saying, this as usual is not an example of lawfare trying to implement the voice by stealth.  I'd mock you by saying it was a good try, but it wasn't even that.  It's just another lazy attempt to paint an Indigenous issue as negative without even addressing it.

Second, rather than addressing the issue raised, you’ve used this as a springboard to discuss a tangentially related topic, ignoring the substance of the article.

Would you care to engage with the actual matter at hand? To summarise:

Levi Nichaloff, known as rapper Yung Milla, expresses concern about the NT's new law lowering the age of criminal responsibility from 12 to 10, fearing it will disproportionately harm Aboriginal youth. Drawing from his own upbringing, he believes this will worsen outcomes for children. Experts, such as Professor Susan Sawyer, echo these concerns, warning of deeper entrenchment in the justice system. This law is part of the CLP's tough-on-crime approach after their recent electoral victory.

In the past, you've expressed what appeared to be concern for the women and children in these communities.  Sure, your solutions that involved genocide, segregation or apartheid would put that pantomime concern into context, but let's be incredibly and undeservedly generous and give you the benefit of the doubt and consider that concern to be genuine.

Now, you have the opportunity to weigh in, after hearing the perspectives of someone with lived experience and an expert in adolescent health.

Can you offer your thoughts on the actual topic under discussion from the point of view of what might be better for the children impacted by this from the communities you're so obsessed with degrading?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 5^th, 2024 at 4:58pm:

See mate, this is why nobody wants to engage with you.

It wasn't even a rant, something I can be good at.  It was a simple question.

You've posted something in your Lawfare thread, so that implies you think it's an example of Lawfare.

After reading it, it has nothing to do with it as usual.

Then you've been deliberately confrontational and combative with your commentary of it,

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 5^th, 2024 at 4:01pm:


Then you go on to question those questioning this solution would do to help the actual problem.

Ok.

But when someone asks you what you think should be done instead, you pretend to be the victim of a rant and won't offer your opinion, instead offering an admission that you're just posting news in this thread now,

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So let's try again, if you're so concerned with the people in these communities, what would you do to help these children?

You can deflect again if you want, but I think we'd all like to know.  You're great at highlighting the problems and repeating them over and over, assigning blame everywhere but to those you identify with, so it would be nice, for a change, if you offered a solution, a real-world one, that you so demand from others.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 9:38am:


This is what it appears to be, hence why I've tried to give him a chance, perhaps the last, to engage in good faith.

He already threw it back in my face, so I've tried again.

Will see if he comes to the table or if he'll choose to remove any doubt about his true intentions.

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 9:38am:



I asked Leftie - sorry Skanka - who considers self an expert - for hir solutions instead of the raving.... of course hshe's only 'trying to debate' right?

So if a Lawfare move is sort of against young Aboriginals and is not a real long-term solution, and I raise that - this is cause for criticism?  Are you daft?  I'm neutral in all this.... clearly you are a rabid supporter or one side....

Again not one word of yours addresses the issue..... you pair are laughable.