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Reply #165 - May 27^th, 2024 at 4:04pm

Aussie wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:49pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 12:45pm:

Nothing like being in the privileged pay set to have that kind of money lying around - we all know that money will buy you a decision.... and someone of 'standing' in the community has a far better chance than a bloke with piggy eyes... Toowoomba you say? He's got no hope...

I think he will be acquitted of the Toowoomba charge.

The events still do establish what a loser low life he is, and where he socialises and with whom.

Yes - his piggy eyes give him away..... how do you find the high life in Toowoomba? It's west of Ipswich, which is west of Brisbane, which is west of Redcliffe ..... I mean - where's the future and the high life in that? A bit further out and you're in No Man's Land filled with cows and mad cop shooters...

Again for the record - I always said that IF he did the deed - he was a low-life and a bloody worthless clown ... but that remains an IF - not any certainty by any means.... ergo - until proven guilty by the proper criminal standard he is innocent. Now if Witness B had not sullied the waters... and security had done their jobs ... and the couch wasn't unethically cleansed ....and a heap of other things had been done at the time......

I don't have to ply women with liquor to get them into the sack - they buy their own and make their own decisions.... at my age and health... and usually hers unless I go get a sweet Chinese music professor or something ... it could be the last one both of us make....

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Reply #166 - May 27^th, 2024 at 4:17pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 3:54pm:

That is the clear difference between you lot of witch hunters and myself.... in any crisis I remain calm and detached - you turn hysterical... start crying for blood but only one way. Just what kind of man are you?
A. - a Modern New Fascist.

Yes I understand. The voices talk, the oven is spying on you. Stand your ground, you will win.

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Reply #167 - May 27^th, 2024 at 5:14pm

chimera wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 4:17pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 3:54pm:

That is the clear difference between you lot of witch hunters and myself.... in any crisis I remain calm and detached - you turn hysterical... start crying for blood but only one way. Just what kind of man are you?
A. - a Modern New Fascist.

Yes I understand. The voices talk, the oven is spying on you. Stand your ground, you will win.

Your desperation wrought by your inability to counter a valid discussion of reality is noted......

Under no circumstances must any court be swayed by a baying crowd at the door, by any threat of a Punch and Judy Show in the media, by pressure to achieve a politically desired result, by considerations of the perceived social value of those appearing, by appearance and dress code of those attending, or by questions of gender or anything else of those before the court... a court properly constituted may only be swayed by provable and proven facts fully and properly corroborated to the proper standard - and not by rhetoric, suggestion, innuendo, supposition, assumption or anything else. (Never assume - you start by making an ass of U....)

It breaks my heart to see Wilkinson suffer $1.8m - I recall that her big huff over 'gender wage gap' was when Karl Stefanovic received $2m and she only $1.8m pa negotiated salary for appearing in the same show.... it's hard to be that well looked after and still be behind someone else - must be 'scrimination, eh? .....

Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?

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Re: Lehrmann Case Revs Up Women Into Violence.
Reply #168 - May 27^th, 2024 at 5:34pm

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Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?

Except it was not mere 'accusation.' There was a whole lot more which you keep ignoring because it just does not suit your flambouyant yet tortured rhetoric.

This Lehrmann matter is not an appropriate vehicle for you to use in your Quixotic campaign against female windmills.

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Reply #169 - May 27^th, 2024 at 5:48pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 12:48pm:

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 8:25am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 9:13pm:

No.

so why pretend that was the only other option?

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.

Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing. Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see? Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.

I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #170 - May 27^th, 2024 at 5:59pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:14pm:

Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?

Yes Mr Grappler. Was there some incident involving yourself and an Aboriginal girl?

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Re: Lehrmann Case Revs Up Women Into Violence.
Reply #171 - May 27^th, 2024 at 8:00pm

chimera wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:59pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:14pm:

Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?

Yes Mr Grappler. Was there some incident involving yourself and an Aboriginal girl?

???????

My plan was to have one of each race before I go - still missed a few - including Aboriginal ... might seem strange in this country but that's how it is...

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Re: Lehrmann Case Revs Up Women Into Violence.
Reply #172 - May 27^th, 2024 at 8:02pm

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 12:48pm:

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 8:25am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 9:13pm:

No.

so why pretend that was the only other option?

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.

Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing. Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see? Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.

I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine

Under no circumstances can you ever be reasonably satisfied... to apply reason you need facts to work on and from ....so you are merely satisfied in your own mind - i.e. prejudice, since you have no facts.

You are welcome....at Grappler U we try to enlighten our students as much as possible.

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Re: Lehrmann Case Revs Up Women Into Violence.
Reply #173 - May 27^th, 2024 at 8:06pm

Aussie wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:34pm:

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Just what kind of a man are you - to be screeching in the streets for the hanging of innocent men on accusation like some hysterical wound-up Fascist Stalinist dupe product of the modern 'education' system?

Except it was not mere 'accusation.' There was a whole lot more which you keep ignoring because it just does not suit your flambouyant yet tortured rhetoric.

This Lehrmann matter is not an appropriate vehicle for you to use in your Quixotic campaign against female windmills.

NOT 'mere' accusation'? Pray tell then - what is this 'whole lot more'?

I'm sure the room here is waiting with bated breath.... in the comments on one thing put out about costs to El Bruce - many commented on this ..... Quixotic lunge by that 'judge' and the lack of hard evidence ...

What is this WHOLE LOT MORE?

Footnote:- If this is indeed 'quixotic' on my part ........... why do you refer to them as female windmills? We argue not with principalities of men and women here - but with principalities of good and evil.... do try to follow - MOST women do not receive any benefit from all this power enhancement thrown their way - they get to slave away at work and in the home, and most end up with not that much UNLESS they are in a fixed and steady relationship for a lifetime or near...... even with all the pitfalls of that....

They're not all get-rich quick' monsters like yond feminists etc... with their incredible sense of entitlement..... but due to their own following blindly along the same paths in life - they end up in the dead ends while the get-rich-quickers end up in clover - which is, of course, the aim of the GRQs all along...

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Reply #174 - May 27^th, 2024 at 8:26pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:41pm:

truly we have gone back to the Dark Ages where a person accused is burnt at the stake or beheaded following a mock trial.

Strangely enough, Ben Roberts-Smith had the same sort of defamation decision. He was beheaded by witch-hunters, empowered women and assorted fascists and hysterical screechers. Lehrmann 'piggy' Porkies will be roasted in whisky and finger licking.

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Reply #175 - May 27^th, 2024 at 8:49pm

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 12:48pm:

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 8:25am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 9:13pm:

No.

so why pretend that was the only other option?

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.

Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing. Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see? Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.

I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine

Or a court of Law it seems. Undecided

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Re: Lehrmann Case Revs Up Women Into Violence.
Reply #176 - May 27^th, 2024 at 8:54pm

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 12:48pm:

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 8:25am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 9:13pm:

No.

so why pretend that was the only other option?

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.

Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing. Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see? Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.

I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine

Or a court of Law it seems. Undecided

A court of law said he did rape her but that's irrelevant. You might need a court of law to tell you what to think. I prefer to think for myself

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Lehrmann Case Revs Up Women Into Violence.
Reply #177 - May 27^th, 2024 at 8:56pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 5:48pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 12:48pm:

John Smith wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 8:25am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 9:13pm:

No.

so why pretend that was the only other option?

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.

Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing. Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see? Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.

I'm more than reasonably satisfied that he raped her. I don't need a time machine

Under no circumstances can you ever be reasonably satisfied... to apply reason you need facts to work on and from ....so you are merely satisfied in your own mind - i.e. prejudice, since you have no facts.

You are welcome....at Grappler U we try to enlighten our students as much as possible.

You'll never see the facts if you don't pull your head out of your arse

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Lehrmann Case Revs Up Women Into Violence.
Reply #179 - May 27^th, 2024 at 9:03pm

chimera wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 8:26pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 2:41pm:

truly we have gone back to the Dark Ages where a person accused is burnt at the stake or beheaded following a mock trial.

Strangely enough, Ben Roberts-Smith had the same sort of defamation decision. He was beheaded by witch-hunters, empowered women and assorted fascists and hysterical screechers. Lehrmann 'piggy' Porkies will be roasted in whisky and finger licking.

Nice glaze brushed over as he's rotated on the spit... spuds in the ash below roasting nicely ...

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