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Reply #30 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 2:27pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 2:25pm:

JC Denton wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 2:12pm:

i genuinely dont get how the judge concluded even on the balance of probabilities rapeoccured, it seemed pretty ambiguous eitherway (though i do think they f_cked).

Well I thought it was pretty obvious considering she was found half naked on the couch in the ministers office.

And even suggested afterwards she had been raped!

ok but that doesn't follow pal

i don't care eitherway they're both grubs

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Reply #31 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 2:31pm

JC Denton wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 2:12pm:

i genuinely dont get how the judge concluded even on the balance of probabilities rapeoccured, it seemed pretty ambiguous eitherway (though i do think they f_cked).

Under ACT Law - AS I SAID AT THE TIME IN MY NEUTRAL STANCE - sex with a drunk woman is rape....

Civil case - nothing has been proven - only assumed.... get hold of reality, people.

IF this influences the Toowoomba case - the appeal will succeed.

"Why did you assume that sex had taken place, Mr Lee?"

"They were in the same office suite...... at night.... alone together... sort of"

"Is that it?"

"He has piggy eyes..... they both struggled with the truth, but I feel he, as a man, had an obligation to not struggle with the truth... whereas a woman must be given leeway with truth at all times..... how else could society survive?"

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Reply #33 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 2:47pm

JC Denton wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 2:36pm:

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Civil case - nothing has been proven - only assumed.... get hold of reality, people.

so? i literally said "on the balance of probabilities" in my post, i still dont know why the more reasonable conclusion wasnt "who knows" rather than "he raped her"

It's still - "Who knows?" .... no proof positive, just an opinion derived from somewhere....presumption of guilt? Inference? Innuendo? Cowardice? Mental dysfunction?

That is precisely why we need a royal commission into the judiciary - too many comparative idiots can get through and make often terrible decisions. based on prejudice, discrimination, racism and all the other failings of humanity, rather than remaining aloof and making decisions based on law....

A 'civil' case is just making it up as they go... but can cause irreparable harm to individuals and to society.....

Mummy's boy again.................

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Reply #34 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 2:57pm

Now then - what's the future for Bruce? Brittany will surge now and move towards becoming the darling of the press and public and will stand for parliament and the easy life for life................. heroine of the poor oppressed woman (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)..

If I were Bruce's advisor I'd say -

"Stand tall if you are sure of your truth! Stand for election yourself on a genuine equal rights platform - let the people decide.... beat her to the punch, dork...... don't cower down... be a man.... McCarthyism must not prevail in this country...."

"Are you now - or have you ever in the past.... been a rapist of women?"

"No!"

"Have you ever been an oppressor of women?"

"No...."

"You are in contempt of this court! We have a signed statement from General Groves himself who says that at the time of your employment on the Man-Hating Project - under today's rules - you would not be employed!!"

"Didn't he say that under today's rules no man would have been employed on the Man-Hating Project?"

"Irrelevant! Take him away!!"

"Do you remember those figures I brought you? About wage gaps and rape rates and rape with the eyes and affirmative action needed and so forth?"

"I remember - the ones where you feared we would destroy the world, set alight to the atmosphere - lose everything..."

"I think we did, Albert.... I think we did..."

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Reply #35 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 4:32pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-68814811

Bruce Lehrmann: Judge finds Brittany Higgins was raped inside parliament

1 hour ago
By Tiffanie Turnbull,BBC News, Sydney

Former Australian political staffer Bruce Lehrmann raped his colleague Brittany Higgins inside Parliament House, a judge has found in a defamation case.

Mr Lehrmann has always denied sex took place at all and sued Network 10 over a TV interview with Ms Higgins.

The outlet successfully defended the story as substantially true.

Their report in 2021 shocked the nation and stirred huge public anger over the treatment of women in politics.

In the interview, a teary Ms Higgins detailed how she had woken up on a couch in a minister's office to find a colleague raping her, after a night out in Canberra in 2019.

However Mr Lehrmann told the Federal Court the pair had shared an Uber back to their office before going their separate ways.

Ruling that Mr Lehrmann had told "deliberate lies", Justice Michael Lee on Monday said the 28-year-old had been "hellbent" on having sex with Ms Higgins and was "recklessly indifferent" to whether she wanted to as well.

"So intent upon gratification... [Mr Lehrmann] went ahead with sexual intercourse without caring whether or not she consented."

The standard of proof in defamation cases is lower than in criminal proceedings - a defendant must only prove the claims are more likely to be true, than not.

Mr Lehrmann faced a criminal trial in 2022, but it was aborted due to juror misconduct. A retrial was later abandoned out of concern for Ms Higgins' mental health.

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Reply #36 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 6:45pm

This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...

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Reply #37 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:00pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...

He's a rapist.

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Reply #38 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:00pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...

He's a rapist.

Yes. Him and Trump. Rapists.

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Reply #39 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:00pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...

He's a rapist.

A 'civil' rapist, anyway - never proven. Just a token rapist - like the Token Man in the public service, Parliament, or teaching etc these days.... just there for show - not for any real go.......

The Disappearing Men in the Land of The Hollow Women And Their Suck-ups.

"Remember those figures I sent you to check?" .......................

"I remember - the ones where you said we could blow up the world, set fire to the atmosphere.... lose everything."

"I think we did, Albert..... I think we did."

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Reply #40 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:31pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:00pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...

He's a rapist.

A 'civil' rapist, ...

You mean he was courteous and polite when he raped her, or he isn't in the military?

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Reply #41 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:31pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 7:00pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

This idiot is a paid schill... now off we go with another round of 'guilty until found inocent without a hope' to satisfy the bleating crowd of wolves at the door...

Bet he's a 'Labor' man of some kind... product of the 'school system' and the 'education system' these days.... riding the trend towards social destruction of generations...

He's a rapist.

A 'civil' rapist, ...

You mean he was courteous and polite when he raped her, or he isn't in the military?

He had to put it in -
he didn't know why -
he just had to.

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Reply #42 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 8:20pm

Don't choose to be obtuse - just be, man....

It was a civil case - ergo he is only a civil rapist - you can't call him a rapist until properly proven to the proper standard in a proper court - something it is increasingly clear is not in existence in Australia ... hasn't ever been really - but hope was beginning to dawn... until someone set fire to the atmosphere...

Just when light was beginning to dawn over the convict colony courts..... along came feminism with its wailing and whining and demands and outright lies - and the politicians saw in this their golden opportunity - as the beta men they were and remain in reality - to de-nut the real men of Australia and impoverish them in every way so as to ensure their own supremacy as the most overpaid assholes in the land....and gather in all the pussy - but when Bruce wants HIS share.. a lowly underling working for a leso... damn ....look what he gets? Shortest shrift of the short shrift in the land.... a single part-time casual shrift to cover a lifetime... and if he was that pissed - he probably didn't get it anyway!!

When that started to stagger, the found the ethnics, and the blecks and the poofs and now the trannies - to play the part of the victim and thus 'force' governments' to chop the rights of all others bit by bit.... all the way up to the 2024 Enclosure Acts to create private hunting grounds for ten First Lords Of The Land..... something they'll never use between stops at Macca's anyway.... DUH...

As you head up to Jinadbyne - somewhere around the level just below Canberra on the road from Sydney or south or east or even west - if you look carefully, you can almost see the remains of the high tide mark where the waters of freedom washed up, to subside and be diverted into the Snowjob Scheme ..... and then washed back never to rise again..... and no arks stranded on those golden shores, either....

Let's take the judge down and pour the same amount of piss into him and see if HE can do the deed on a slippery couch...... just stay on that filly for ten seconds and you're an accredited bull rider... yeee hah....

I challenge you all to point out ONE SINGLE non-beta 'man' in Parliament today and in memory... JUST ONE!!

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 104847 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Lehrmann is a rapist. Reply #43 - Apr 15^th, 2024 at 9:35pm Latest news ABC 20 media watch. Bruce Lehrmann has $10 million in legal fees. that was an expensive root.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84583 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Lehrmann is a rapist. Reply #44 - Apr 16^th, 2024 at 11:23am Bobby. wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 9:35pm: Latest news ABC 20 media watch. Bruce Lehrmann has $10 million in legal fees. that was an expensive root. A token root - never proven even yet... just a judicial suggestion based on in-reading of circumstances. No legal meaning at all in the criminal arena.
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