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Reply #15 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 3:43pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


A jury will find you not guilty of murder if you were acting in self defense.


A 24-year-old man who claimed he was acting in self-defence when he shot another man to death two years ago in downtown Dartmouth, N.S., has been found guilty of second-degree murder.

A jury returned with its verdict Friday afternoon in the trial of Justin Ronald Adams-Clarke, who was charged in the May 12, 2021, death of Tyler Michael Boyd Algee, 22.
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Reply #16 - Apr 10th, 2024 at 5:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 3:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


A jury will find you not guilty of murder if you were acting in self defense.


A 24-year-old man who claimed he was acting in self-defence when he shot another man to death two years ago in downtown Dartmouth, N.S., has been found guilty of second-degree murder.

A jury returned with its verdict Friday afternoon in the trial of Justin Ronald Adams-Clarke, who was charged in the May 12, 2021, death of Tyler Michael Boyd Algee, 22.


Do you think justice was served in that case Peccar?
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Reply #17 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 8:45am
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13290721/Kingscliff-breakin-axe-Allan-K...


The Aborigine breaks in - wearing a mask and carrying an axe.

Chops his arm off and gets stabbed in the chest and dies.

Will the old man be charged - because Aborigines are so wonderful?
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Reply #18 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 10:43am
 
Gnads wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 5:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 3:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:30pm:
It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


A jury will find you not guilty of murder if you were acting in self defense.


A 24-year-old man who claimed he was acting in self-defence when he shot another man to death two years ago in downtown Dartmouth, N.S., has been found guilty of second-degree murder.

A jury returned with its verdict Friday afternoon in the trial of Justin Ronald Adams-Clarke, who was charged in the May 12, 2021, death of Tyler Michael Boyd Algee, 22.


Do you think justice was served in that case Peccar?


It doesn't work like "look out, it's coming right for us".
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Reply #19 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 4:21pm
 
Surprise, surprise.
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Reply #20 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 8:55pm
 
Never bring an axe to a knife fight.....
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Reply #21 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 9:35pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 8:55pm:
Never bring an axe to a knife fight.....


Apparently a short baseball bat/club is very good.
Use small sharp cracks in a karate style, not the big 'chopping a tree down' style action.

Aim for many small hits while controlling your balance, distance and focus.
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Reply #22 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 9:56pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2024 at 1:30pm:


It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


A jury will find you not guilty of murder if you were acting in self defense.





It could be your act of 'suicide', to bring reason, to a fight with a person who has 'embraced' the Communist disposition.
i.e. "....it isn't stealing, coz i need it, and i don't have it. And because you have it, i need it. So now it belongs to me."

embrace = =
1 hold closely in one’s arms, especially as a sign of affection.
2 include or contain.
3 accept or support (a belief or change) willingly.

disposition = =
1 a person’s inherent qualities of mind and character.       an inclination or tendency.
2 the action or result of arranging people or things in a particular way.
3 ......
4 the power to deal with something as one pleases.




It seems to myself, today.........
that the WOKE, and persons with a Communist disposition,
will simply brush aside [i.e. ignore]   >> the practical consequences <<   of any and all,
moral laws which are inconvenient to their own current circumstance or intent.

e.g.
Breaking #8 and #10

Exodus 20:15
Thou shalt not steal.

Exodus 20:17
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

i.e.
#10 of the Ten Commandments, determines that it is a capital crime,
to hold a desire to possess [to take] the possessions held legally by your 'neighbour'.


p.s.
On killing.......
God's law, from scripture......
If in defending your life, you kill a person,   .....killing an attacker, is not a 'murder'.

Nor does #6 of God's law apply.

Exodus 20:
13  Thou shalt not kill.

#6 applies to unlawful killing, i.e. an intentional killing, involving a direct motive, to kill, another person.

Self defence, in God's law, is self defence.


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QUESTION;
In Australian courts of justice, do we see 'sworn' judges always follow
this commonsense   >> application of judicial authority, <<   [in Deuteronomy 25:1] in all of their determinations ?

And if not, why not ?      .....please explain,         .....what is 'wrong' today, with following the moral instruction, in Deuteronomy 25:1 ???

Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them;
then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.


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QUOTES........

Freedom, means not having to lie.
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If one wishes to enslave people, constrain their capacity for independent thought - not their hands; for the chain of dependence is incomparably stronger than the chain of iron.
- Law V Freedom by Anthony L. Hargis


Nobody is ever going to come, and fight injustice to make you free!
The only way to be free, is to believe that you ARE free!
To live your life as though you are a free person!
Freedom begins when we seize freedom for ourselves.      
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None can love freedom so heartily, but good men; the rest have not freedom, but licence.
- John Hamilton      


People may say, or believe that they fight for 'truth' or for 'freedom'.
But really, when a person fights it is only for one purpose; and that is to impose his 'will' upon others.
- ?


The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom is Courage.
- Thucydides, Pericles' Funeral Oration      


To be legitimate, a government must derive its authority from those who are governed.
- Law vs Freedom


Where justice reigns, 'tis freedom to obey.
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: The Right to Defend your life
Reply #23 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 10:15pm
 
Yadda wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 9:56pm:


p.s.
On killing.......
God's law, from scripture......
If in defending your life, you kill a person,   .....killing an attacker, is not a 'murder'.

Nor does #6 of God's law apply.

Exodus 20:
13  Thou shalt not kill.

#6 applies to unlawful killing, i.e. an intentional killing, involving a direct motive, to kill, another person.

Self defence, in God's law, is self defence.




e.g.

Exodus 22:2
If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.


Exodus 21:12
He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.
13  And if a man lie not in wait, but God deliver him into his hand; then I will appoint thee a place whither he shall flee.
14  But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #24 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 11:16pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 9:35pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 8:55pm:
Never bring an axe to a knife fight.....


Apparently a short baseball bat/club is very good.
Use small sharp cracks in a karate style, not the big 'chopping a tree down' style action.

Aim for many small hits while controlling your balance, distance and focus.


Possession of a shortened baseball bat or a club is illegal as they are classed as weapons.
Oven cleaner in the kitchen is legal, in the bedroom it is illegal.
However a pressure fire extinguisher is legal in any room of the house, the shed, the car, even on a motor bike.
It is not intended for self defence in those locations.
Men’s pressurised body sprays as well as insect repellants may be carried at all times as they are not weapons whereas pepper sprays are.

The good old walking stick or the brolly may also be carried .
With all things the important criteria is that they be not carried for self defence.

Your Governments abhor the concept of self defence.

But the Prime Minister and other Politicians have guards armed with pistols and better.
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Reply #25 - Apr 11th, 2024 at 11:56pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 9:35pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 8:55pm:
Never bring an axe to a knife fight.....


Apparently a short baseball bat/club is very good.
Use small sharp cracks in a karate style, not the big 'chopping a tree down' style action.

Aim for many small hits while controlling your balance, distance and focus.


Possession of a shortened baseball bat or a club is illegal as they are classed as weapons.
Oven cleaner in the kitchen is legal, in the bedroom it is illegal.
However a pressure fire extinguisher is legal in any room of the house, the shed, the car, even on a motor bike.
It is not intended for self defence in those locations.
Men’s pressurised body sprays as well as insect repellants may be carried at all times as they are not weapons whereas pepper sprays are.

The good old walking stick or the brolly may also be carried .
With all things the important criteria is that they be not carried for self defence.

Your Governments abhor the concept of self defence.

But the Prime Minister and other Politicians have guards armed with pistols and better.


What about a kids baseball bat that one of my kids left there years ago?
Hold hands out in front loosely with a 150 mm gap between them.
Step forward in a small rapid step, pull with the lower hand, push with the upper hand. Aim for his hand.
Reverse the hand movement to bring the bat back. Think entirely of speed, getting in and out.
When you connect, do not think or hesitate, repeat what you did. Same small snappy action. 

I did karate a long time ago
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Reply #26 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 12:19am
 
AusPost has little baseball bats very cheap - aluminium .... can't see much use for those myself....... ummmm ... must be a use somewhere.

$11 and she's yours - even cited for 'self-defence'.... Temu - not spamming here... just directing yez to the home defence section... AusPost had 'em too - probably on ebay.

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Reply #27 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 2:40pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 9:35pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 11th, 2024 at 8:55pm:
Never bring an axe to a knife fight.....


Apparently a short baseball bat/club is very good.
Use small sharp cracks in a karate style, not the big 'chopping a tree down' style action.

Aim for many small hits while controlling your balance, distance and focus.


Possession of a shortened baseball bat or a club is illegal as they are classed as weapons.
Oven cleaner in the kitchen is legal, in the bedroom it is illegal.
However a pressure fire extinguisher is legal in any room of the house, the shed, the car, even on a motor bike.
It is not intended for self defence in those locations.
Men’s pressurised body sprays as well as insect repellants may be carried at all times as they are not weapons whereas pepper sprays are.

The good old walking stick or the brolly may also be carried .
With all things the important criteria is that they be not carried for self defence.

Your Governments abhor the concept of self defence.

But the Prime Minister and other Politicians have guards armed with pistols and better.


What about a kids baseball bat that one of my kids left there years ago?
Hold hands out in front loosely with a 150 mm gap between them.
Step forward in a small rapid step, pull with the lower hand, push with the upper hand. Aim for his hand.
Reverse the hand movement to bring the bat back. Think entirely of speed, getting in and out.
When you connect, do not think or hesitate, repeat what you did. Same small snappy action. 

I did karate a long time ago

You’re the one who’d have.to prove the bat was left there and be asked why you kept it.
A good answer would be “. . . for sentimental reasons.
I prefer the walking stick as I did fencing years ago [mainly because of the girls who were also learning]
The brolly is not to be spurned either, the multiple steel ribs will stop a machete cut
and the foot, if it has one, will lethally penetrate the body.
Folded of course.
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Reply #28 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 7:05pm
 
It's ok for Musicians to carry their tools of the trade and other people's their stuff.
But Military orientated people aren't even allowed to carry a slug-gun in public.

Australians are 'easy-meat' and vulnerable targets for Palestinian Terrorists like that one at Bondi.
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Reply #29 - Apr 14th, 2024 at 12:51am
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 13th, 2024 at 7:05pm:
It's ok for Musicians to carry their tools of the trade and other people's their stuff.
But Military orientated people aren't even allowed to carry a slug-gun in public.

Australians are 'easy-meat' and vulnerable targets for Palestinian Terrorists like that one at Bondi.


He ran into the wrong lady cop..... snuck up on him - gun drawn - gave him a chance then drilled him three times....

Hope she loses no sleep over it....
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