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Reply #45 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:06pm
 
Abo lights his fart in the fire
Bwian. THEY UTILISED METHANE GAS
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Reply #46 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:35pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 8:58pm:
Gordon wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 8:38pm:
Just rudimentary hunter gatherers who never advanced past that stage. Not even as advanced as hunter gatherers in other countries countries.

The left treat Abos like a kid with down syndrome, they do a messy art work and they're celebrated for theiramazing achievement.


Professor Marcia Plankton, Anthropologist - identified a few Aboriginal artefacts way up north somewhere remote .... a few sticks, a didgeridoo maybe, a cooking stone... oooooh look - a sharp stone to scrape hides........ that's a modern Aboriginal professorship for you and internationally acclaimed... College Of Outer Woop-Woop .... where everyone is a local Ph.D!!


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Reply #47 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:47pm
 
Do you think they used the Pottery for food and wine or did they wear them on their heads as safe sex devices?
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Reply #48 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:49pm
 
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Reply #49 - Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:58pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:47pm:
Do you think they used the Pottery for food and wine or did they wear them on their heads as safe sex devices?


Perhaps beauty enhancers, they didn't have paper bags or beer goggles although I'm sure the evidence they did will turn up at some point..
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Reply #50 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 12:16am
 
The only tools Setanta and Grappler had need of were their Mohel's teeth.
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Reply #51 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:03am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:44am:
It's just hilarious how butt hurt the bigots on here get whenever it's suggested that Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander people did anything other than what they were taught in school .... way back last century.

Furious. They become furious.

It's deeply funny.


What's deeply disturbing is idiots like you believe the fake headline that Bwyan posted.

It's not Australian Aboriginal peoples work nor is it TSI's work.

It's Lapita peoples work. Lapita peoples didn't settle mainland Australia.

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Reply #52 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:06am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:56am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:53am:
Hunter-gatherer peoples must carry all they need for survival.

Why would they waste time and energy making an artefact that would expend more energy in production, safeguarding and transporting than it would save?



Because they weren't solely hunter gatherers.


Oh that's going to make them well cross.


Grin but they were solely HGers. Silly bint.

Do you know where Lizard Island is?

Why hasn't any of the ancient pottery been found on the mainland?
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Reply #53 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:08am
 
mothra wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 10:50am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 10:42am:
mothra wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 10:37am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 10:32am:
mothra wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 10:22am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 10:13am:
mothra wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:56am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Apr 12th, 2024 at 9:53am:
Hunter-gatherer peoples must carry all they need for survival.

Why would they waste time and energy making an artefact that would expend more energy in production, safeguarding and transporting than it would save?



Because they weren't solely hunter gatherers.


Oh that's going to make them well cross.

Weren't they?

And who is the 'they' you speak of? Another reference to monolithic Aboriginal culture that infests the Australian psyche - as if Australian Aboriginal peoples thought of themselves as the Australian Aboriginal people.



They the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders or they the bigots?

I'm unsure of which group you;re trying to be a smartarse about.

It doesn't really matter. Both are easily defended on here, from your perspective.

More drivel out of half-arsed education that has been poured like sewerage into Australians for over 150 years.

Even on islands relatively tiny to Australia, the Maori did not see themselves as the 'Maori People' (the word 'Maori' being only used since the late 18th century to differentiate 'normal' people from British explorers), but by their tribal/clan subcultural identities.

When you're referring to, say, Greeks, would you refer to them as the European people?



Oh my god! How insightful of you! You're telling us all that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders aren't a homogeneous blob?

Serious?

You should have, like a street named after you or something. I'm certain nobody has ever thought that before.

Yes. When it comes to comprehending Australian Aboriginal peoples as distinct peoples, Australians have been fed dumb cuntery for over a century and a half.

Even the crypto-colonising Americans realised early that all native Americans were not the same and native American cultures were, well, not monolithic.





I think you'll find that younger gnerations than you have had the benefit of a more rounded education.

And it all brings me back to my original point ,,, the folk on here lose their ever loving minds when it's suggested that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders are found to have existed in ways contrary to their previous centuries education.

Thread after thread on it.

And it's me you challenge.

Typical.



Is that what you call indoctrination with BS?...

they've certainly had that ... you're a prime example.
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Reply #54 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:29am
 
@Aqua - speaking of Arukun .. another 2 page spread for there in the Courier today.

I reckon they ought send Mothballs there to sort it out seeings she's such an expert & so educated on matters regarding ATSI peoples. Grin

Quote:
WE CAN’T SEND KIDS TO SCHOOL
SPECIAL REPORT - LUKE WILLIAMS

Parents have stopped sending their children to school in a remote Indigenous community because they fear attacks, as local leaders question how $140m in government funding is being spent in the town without a doctor, dentist or counsellors.

Aurukun elders have spoken out about ongoing issues in the community,
including escalating inter-family violence involving crossbows, threats of
harming children and the marking of territorial “enemy lines”.


Traditional owner Stanford Ngakyunkwokka said parents had stopped sending their kids to the local government-run school because they were
scared they would be attacked.

He said young people had been caught between longstanding family feuds and were often awake until early hours of the morning.

People nearly get killed,” he said. “They use crossbows and archery.

Heaps of people get into these fights at once.

“They say if we see your children at school tomorrow, we will get them.

“So the parents are scared to send their children.”

Several elders who spoke to The Courier-Mail made similar claims.

Aurukun, 800km northwest of Cairns, has a population of 1200 people.

Aurukun State School has 219 students from prep to year 12. But only 29
per cent of enrolled students attend,
with just 1 per cent attending 90
per cent or more of the time
, according to data from the Australian
Curriculum Assessment and Reporting Authority.

Text messages from the Queensland Teachers’ Union shown to The Courier-Mail reveal the union recently discussed temporarily closing down
the school because of ongoing safety risks.

Teachers who spoke anonymously said they were leaving the school because students were
threatening teachers with sexual violence and pupils as young as five were
coming to school armed with large knives.


Mr Ngakyunkwokka said several clans had “enemy lines” drawn around the town.

He said fighting had escalated in the past two weeks with several doors broken down, and one house nearly set alight. Arrows had passed through the night sky in his neighbourhood nearly every night.

“If you go past those enemy lines at night, then look out,” he said.

Sitting with his grandson Alan Pambyan on his knee, Mr Ngakyunkwokka fears for his future.

“Go out at night and you’ll see it all for yourself,” he said.

At the same time, outgoing Aurukun Mayor Keri Tamwoy wants to know
how $140m in government funding is being spent
in her remote Far North
Queensland community without a doctor, dentist or counsellors.

Ms Tamwoy, co-founder of the Wik Women’s Group and a supporter of the failed Voice to Parliament, says there is no shortage of money coming into the community.

In the past financial year the community received $142m in federal and
state government funding across 126 government and non-government organisations.


Only a handful are controlled by the Aurukun community.

“We don’t know what the money is being spent on. The money is not going to us in the community. It is going to these organisations. So we can’t say why it isn’t working,” she said.

“But every time this issue of money being spent and there not being results comes up.

“It’s Indigenous people who get the finger pointed at them – it’s us who get the blame.”

Her calls come after the Albanese government’s attempt to constitutionally enshrine an Indigenous Voice to parliament was voted down in October’s referendum.

At the time, Cape York leader Noel Pearson said governments had been
telling Indigenous people what policies should be, which had failed communities. The Voice, he believed, would change that.

Ms Tamwoy said her community would have asked for service providers to be examined had the Voice referendum been successful.

“The Indigenous people in this town do not know what service providers are funded and what programs they are running here,” she said.

Ms Tamwoy, the cousin of the Prime Minister’s inaugural Indigenous Advisory Council member Bruce Martin, who was fatally stabbed in
Townsville last year, said she still grieved for him.

“I don’t have anybody to talk to about his death. I have only my children,” she said.

With more than 40 deaths in the town last year, Ms Tamwoy says there are
no counsellors to provide help.

“There are no bereavement counsellors in town. We don’t have trauma counsellors,” she said.

“A lot of people carry around a lot of trauma, a lot
of unaddressed trauma, and we are seeing trauma in younger children because it’s passed on. Children become what they see. It’s all that pentup trauma.”

Ms Tamwoy said the fly-in fly-out model from service providers was not working.


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cont.

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“We need specialised trauma counsellors who are going to live in our town,
not people who are going to be gone in three months,” she said.

“Everyone needs to heal here. Even me, I have got a lot of healing to do.”

A board member of Aurukun State School, Ms Tamwoy is calling for the state government to provide permanent trauma counsellors at the school, which employs eight security guards.

“We don’t even know which stakeholder provides which service,” she said.

“All we know is that millions of dollars is coming into the community – but where are the results?”

Ms Tamwoy added: “There are an awful lot of people in town walking around in pain because they need dental work.”

Aurukun Shire Council acting CEO Graham King said the state government had failed to deliver the “investment mapping” that had been promised to all Indigenous councils to show how and where funds are being spent.

Treaty and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Partnerships Minister Leeanne Enoch said the government supported “local leadership, shared
local decision-making and co-designed community-led solutions”.

“We’re engaging with the new Aurukun Shire Council, community leaders and representatives to assist the established community-based, local
decision-making body to make their own decisions about the future and develop community-led responses that improve lives.

Federal Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney said: “Violence is unacceptable ... We want to see children in places like Aurukun going to school, learning in the classroom and getting the same opportunities as every other child in the country.”


What Ms Tamwoy doesn't seem to understand is that specialised  counsellors, teachers, health professionals and nurses are not going to live in her community whilst their safety is constantly under threats of violent attack, rape etc.

Money is not going to fix that, the community has to fix it.

And if she wants to know where the money($142million) given to organisations supposedly improving the community ...she should ask the Big Man of the Cape Noel Pearson ... he runs most of them. Roll Eyes

ATSI Partnership Minister Leeanne Enock will have her work cut out for her working with the new Mayor Barbera Bandicootcha .... who was recently done for DUI.  Grin
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Reply #56 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:39am
 
So it's not Aboriginal pottery at all?  Just a few boat people dropping in?
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Reply #57 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:44am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:39am:
So it's not Aboriginal pottery at all?  Just a few boat people dropping in?


Yeah ... they've had nothing but trouble with boat people ey?  Grin
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Reply #58 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:45am
 
"Hear me, O Critias - that once there lived a nation of gods, mighty in stature and of deep intellect and artistic merit.....with pottery of the finest water... and lived they beyond the Pillars of Cooktown....and this entire civilisation of golden people and golden temples wreathed in the finest ivory, having offended the True Gods with their hubris, vanished in a day ad a night of fire and inundation ...... for none may challenge the gods in their glory.... or in the schools and houses of learning...
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Reply #59 - Apr 13th, 2024 at 9:47am
 
Not one big happy family at Arukun, eh?
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