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Reply #210 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:47pm

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:34pm:

Can you quote the relevant legislation that you are paraphrasing?

See the link previouslty supplied a few posts back (to Frank, iirc).

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If a visiting foreigner had helped them out, would that mean they were no longer breaking the law, because they were not acting as an "individual group by themselves"?

No. A "visiting foreigner" is irrelevent to (as yet non-existent**) effective international law and the creation of states.

** non-existent, owing to your delusional 'individual freedo..... ...oh dear, I'm arguing with a madman, this will be tough....

Anyway, please stop asking your insane or low IQ or ideologically construed questions. They will be disposed of forthwith, as always.

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Reply #212 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:34pm:

Can you quote the relevant legislation that you are paraphrasing?

See the link previouslty supplied a few posts back (to Frank, iirc).

That is a link to a home page, not an article.

The UN doesn't have the ability to create states, only to facilitate the recognition of a state by its members. The UN is NOTJING without its member states.
Only a people can create a state since a state is the expression of the sovereignty of a people.

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Reply #213 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 4:38pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:34pm:

Can you quote the relevant legislation that you are paraphrasing?

See the link previouslty supplied a few posts back (to Frank, iirc).

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If a visiting foreigner had helped them out, would that mean they were no longer breaking the law, because they were not acting as an "individual group by themselves"?

No. A "visiting foreigner" is irrelevent to (as yet non-existent**) effective international law and the creation of states.

** non-existent, owing to your delusional 'individual freedo..... ...oh dear, I'm arguing with a madman, this will be tough....

Anyway, please stop asking your insane or low IQ or ideologically construed questions. They will be disposed of forthwith, as always.

Can you quote the relevant legislation that you are paraphrasing? In particular, this rule:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:30pm:

while noting an individual group cannot set up a UN sanctioned state by themselves when another group objects

sounds like something a primary school student might make up in a desperate attempt to avoid acknowledging they have lost all credibility.

If the nation of Tokelau had sent it's army to assist the Israelis in setting up their nation, would that have legitimised it?

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Reply #214 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 5:48pm

Now for some 'relief' from a 'deadly' topic:

Lovely to see a dove (symbol of peace) flying around inside the European Parliament.....

https://metro.co.uk/2024/04/24/pro-putin-meps-bizarre-call-peace-ukraine-dove-hi...

Pro-Putin MEP’s bizarre call for peace in Ukraine with dove hidden in a bag

.......

Reminded me of the imagery at the end of Bach's St. Matthew Passion, set to text:

"In the evening the dove returned
And carried an olive leaf in its beak.
O beautiful time ..."

(ie, the evening after the crucifixion).

Of course, one MEP completely missed the point and complained about 'animal rights' ... while another complained about the dove being loose in the chamber....undoubtedly they voted for the usual conservative pro-war "freedom or death" ideology, as opposed to freedom and life.

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Reply #215 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 6:05pm

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:47pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 3:34pm:

Can you quote the relevant legislation that you are paraphrasing?

See the link previouslty supplied a few posts back (to Frank, iirc).

That is a link to a home page, not an article.

The UN doesn't have the ability to create states, only to facilitate the recognition of a state by its members. The UN is NOTJING without its member states.

Correct, but obviously the UN member states have to agree to abide by international law, which agencies of the UN can create (though at this stage, cannot defend - as I keep reminding the 'individual freedom' ideologues on this board).

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Only a people can create a state since a state is the expression of the sovereignty of a people.

Incorrect, Israel would not exist were it not for the UN Partition Plan (bungled though it was...).

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46568 Gender:	Re: WW3? An informed conservative perspective Reply #216 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 6:15pm You said the exact opposite an hour ago, you stupid, absurd idiot.
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Reply #217 - Apr 25^th, 2024 at 6:23pm

Frank wrote on Apr 25^th, 2024 at 6:15pm:

You said the exact opposite an hour ago, you stupid, absurd idiot.

Care to state clearly what I said in #215 is the 'exact opposite' of what I said an hour ago?

Meanwhile on this Anzac Day, Dutton is out there bleating about "courage".... like all conservative pro-war "freedom or death" ideologues, as opposed to freedom and life.

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Reply #218 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:34pm

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

Would absolutely love to see constructive comments about the following video. This is conservative dialogue i absolutely agree with almost entirely.

Compelling and brilliantly explored and explained:

BREAKING REPORT: Following Bidən’s debate performance, Colonel Douglas Macgregor calls for EARLY ELECTIONS…

President Bidən is NOT FIT to discharge the immense duties of the presidency.”

https://x.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1806858776433090668

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Reply #219 - Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:53pm

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

Would absolutely love to see constructive comments about the following video. This is conservative dialogue i absolutely agree with almost entirely.

Compelling and brilliantly explored and explained:

That is all Russian propaganda.
The Russians can hardly fight Ukraine yet alone 32 countries. Roll Eyes

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Reply #220 - Jun 30^th, 2024 at 1:13pm

Frank wrote on Jun 29^th, 2024 at 10:34pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

Would absolutely love to see constructive comments about the following video. This is conservative dialogue i absolutely agree with almost entirely.

Compelling and brilliantly explored and explained:

BREAKING REPORT: Following Bidən’s debate performance, Colonel Douglas Macgregor calls for EARLY ELECTIONS…

President Bidən is NOT FIT to discharge the immense duties of the presidency.”

https://x.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1806858776433090668

Early elections - with Biden as the Dem. candidate? Organizing a replacement Dem candidate will take time, meaning "early" is moot.

Still waiting for you to indentify what you claim was "the exact opposite"......see the post before yours.

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Reply #222 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:13am

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

Would absolutely love to see constructive comments about the following video. This is conservative dialogue i absolutely agree with almost entirely.

Compelling and brilliantly explored and explained:

NewsColonel Douglas Macgregor Is ‘MAD AS HELL’ Over Biden-Harris’ Treasonous Hurricane Response

"Our good countrymen and women are being left to fend for themselves while the government bends over backward for illegal immigrants, criminal gang members, foreign governments, and — of course — lines the pockets of warmongers!”

As families in North Carolina suffer without food, water, or electricity, Macgregor laid out the harsh reality: “Fort Bragg, now renamed Fort Liberty, is only 300 miles from Asheville, North Carolina, where thousands of Americans are coping with washed-out roads and bridges, power outages, and a desperate need for clean water.”

Yet, he pointed out, not a single army helicopter has been sent to rescue them. Why? Because those aircraft are busy overseas, leaving Americans in the dust.

“Too many Americans have been left behind by a negligent federal government for too long,” Macgregor declared. His message to Washington is loud and clear: prioritize Americans NOW.
https://vigilantnews.com/post/colonel-douglas-macgregor-is-mad-as-hell-over-bide...

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Reply #223 - Oct 6^th, 2024 at 11:25am

Frank wrote on Oct 6^th, 2024 at 3:13am:

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 7:56am:

Would absolutely love to see constructive comments about the following video. This is conservative dialogue i absolutely agree with almost entirely.

Compelling and brilliantly explored and explained:

NewsColonel Douglas Macgregor Is ‘MAD AS HELL’ Over Biden-Harris’ Treasonous Hurricane Response

"Our good countrymen and women are being left to fend for themselves while the government bends over backward for illegal immigrants, criminal gang members, foreign governments, and — of course — lines the pockets of warmongers!”

As families in North Carolina suffer without food, water, or electricity, Macgregor laid out the harsh reality: “Fort Bragg, now renamed Fort Liberty, is only 300 miles from Asheville, North Carolina, where thousands of Americans are coping with washed-out roads and bridges, power outages, and a desperate need for clean water.”

Yet, he pointed out, not a single army helicopter has been sent to rescue them. Why? Because those aircraft are busy overseas, leaving Americans in the dust.

“Too many Americans have been left behind by a negligent federal government for too long,” Macgregor declared. His message to Washington is loud and clear: prioritize Americans NOW.
https://vigilantnews.com/post/colonel-douglas-macgregor-is-mad-as-hell-over-bide...

Good to see a colonel criticizing the military-industrial complex for its egregious claims on resources needed at home.

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