Frank wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 12:00pm:


What did i agree with, fruitbat? What do you think Israels objectives are?

Israel's objective is to survive as a modern state.

But that state was created on land occupied by Palestinians in the former 'Palestine Mandate' area, against the will of the Arab world.

Hence - in the absence of an effective international rules-based system - it's 'game on' ie continuous conflict with Palestinians  since Israel's forceful unilateral declaration of its existence. 

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 7:56am:


Can you just skip to the part where he offers proof that the Jews are putting bombs in toys?

If Israel is seen as the cause of WW3 will its self-proclaimed right to exist be withdrawn?

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 12:13pm:



Well, your thread title is indicates what you think about the interview: informed perspective.
Your opening post also says what you made of it : "This is conservative dialogue i absolutely agree with almost entirely.

So there is 30 minutes of views and ideas and you absolutely agree with almost all of it. So let's say you disagree with 10% of it - 3 minutes, probably one or two ideas.
You are very coy about what these are, though. Still, you yourself said it is informed and you absolutely agree with almost all of it.

John Smith wrote on Apr 12^th, 2024 at 3:01pm:


During the Six-Day War, in 1967, Israeli forces occupied the Gaza Strip, and in 1970 Israel built the first Israeli settlement in the territory. By 2005 the Gaza Strip had 21 Israeli settlements and about 9,000 Israeli settlers compared with about 1.3 million Palestinians living in the territory. Meanwhile, in 1993 Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) had agreed to a framework for Palestinian self-governance in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank (see Oslo Accords). As part of that peace process, Israeli forces withdrew from the city of Gaza in 1994 (as well as from the West Bank city of Jericho) and transferred civilian functions for the city to the newly created Palestinian Authority (PA). But concerns over Israel’s security derailed the peace process, especially because of violence from religious nationalists on both sides. At the turn of the century, negotiations came to a virtual halt with the outbreak of the second intifada (2000–05).

Despite the impasse, the cost of occupying the Gaza Strip weighed heavily on the Israeli public, especially amid rising casualties among soldiers who were deployed to defend the settlements. In 2002 the idea of evacuating the settlements before negotiations recommenced was floated by the leader of the Israel Labor Party, then the largest party on the Israeli left. In 2003 Prime Minister Ariel Sharon embraced the idea, despite strong opposition within his own Likud Party. That December, Sharon unveiled a plan for the complete removal of Israeli settlers and soldiers from the Gaza Strip. At the insistence of the United States, the plan later included the evacuation of four small settlements in the West Bank.

On August 15, 2005, when the deadline for evacuation had passed, only about two-thirds of all the settlers had left their homes and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) notified the remaining settlers that soldiers would begin enforcing the evacuation order two days later. Most of the remaining settlers agreed to leave when prompted by the soldiers, but some resisted and were carried away, sometimes screaming. The most dramatic evacuation was in Kfar Darom, where soldiers broke through a barricade in a synagogue and removed some 200 residents despite violent protest. On August 22 the IDF reached an agreement with residents of Netzarim, the last of the settlers in the Gaza Strip, whereby they agreed to evacuate after a final prayer service in the local synagogue. In the weeks that followed, Israeli forces demolished residential buildings and dismantled military installations and completed their withdrawal on September 12.



Some land grab.

Eat shyte Smith you turd muncher.