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Mental health Bondi mass murder
Apr 15^th, 2024 at 10:47pm

Listening to the father of the offender in Bondi he said it was very difficult to get mental health care for his son.

Years ago i had a mentally ill neighbor he bashed another neighbor with a housebrick cracking his head open. I went outside to help got attacked ended up punching his lights out.
He was well known to police when they typed his name into computer it came up with Caution will attack police will use weapons.

Since he couldn't be charged due to mental illness they would take him to the psychiatric ward at hospital where some Dr with no life experience would release him several days later.

We have people wandering around with mental illness they will never be charged with any crime for some reason bleeding heart leftists think it's ok for them to run amok among us.

Have we made a serious mistake in releasing mentally ill people into society?

Should it be easier to have people with serious mental health issues put into a facility?

If family request help for relative with mental health issues should authorities take this seriously and do something?

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Reply #1 - Apr 16^th, 2024 at 12:18am

No. The Problem is that (and to quote a Triple JJJ report last year) 80% of males who seek Professional 'Mental' Help - eventually turn away from in after just 3 months.

Many questions/answers as to why this is?

But the stand out point is that the Australian Health (Medical) Industry is a FEMINISED industry and lacks a pro-active 'Alpha' male sense of character and being.

...unlike in New Zealand or South Africa where their Health Industry is very 'Alpha Male' regardless of race, White, Maori or Xhosa.

So its not about getting 'enough' Mental Health Care - its about getting the 'right type' of... well, you only have to see such things as Mens Sheds, Mens Tables and any other 'Mental Health' that needs to emphasise the 'Male' about it, to see how 'desperate' things are for Males in this country in regards to such problems.

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Re: Mental health Bondi mass murder
Reply #2 - Apr 16^th, 2024 at 8:39am

Jasin wrote on Apr 16^th, 2024 at 12:18am:

No. The Problem is that (and to quote a Triple JJJ report last year) 80% of males who seek Professional 'Mental' Help - eventually turn away from in after just 3 months.

Many questions/answers as to why this is?

But the stand out point is that the Australian Health (Medical) Industry is a FEMINISED industry and lacks a pro-active 'Alpha' male sense of character and being.

...unlike in New Zealand or South Africa where their Health Industry is very 'Alpha Male' regardless of race, White, Maori or Xhosa.

So its not about getting 'enough' Mental Health Care - its about getting the 'right type' of... well, you only have to see such things as Mens Sheds, Mens Tables and any other 'Mental Health' that needs to emphasise the 'Male' about it, to see how 'desperate' things are for Males in this country in regards to such problems.

The reason is that the govt dictates how many "mental health sessions" you can have in a year. i think its 12. Once a week thats 3 months.

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Re: Mental health Bondi mass murder
Reply #3 - Apr 16^th, 2024 at 8:53am

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Have we made a serious mistake in releasing mentally ill people into society?

YES!

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Should it be easier to have people with serious mental health issues put into a facility?

YES!

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If family request help for relative with mental health issues should authorities take this seriously and do something?

ABSOLUTELY!

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Re: Mental health Bondi mass murder
Reply #4 - Apr 16^th, 2024 at 8:56am

Jasin wrote on Apr 16^th, 2024 at 12:18am:

No. The Problem is that (and to quote a Triple JJJ report last year) 80% of males who seek Professional 'Mental' Help - eventually turn away from in after just 3 months.

Many questions/answers as to why this is?

But the stand out point is that the Australian Health (Medical) Industry is a FEMINISED industry and lacks a pro-active 'Alpha' male sense of character and being.

...unlike in New Zealand or South Africa where their Health Industry is very 'Alpha Male' regardless of race, White, Maori or Xhosa.

So its not about getting 'enough' Mental Health Care - its about getting the 'right type' of... well, you only have to see such things as Mens Sheds, Mens Tables and any other 'Mental Health' that needs to emphasise the 'Male' about it, to see how 'desperate' things are for Males in this country in regards to such problems.

Disagree JaSin. It's the "alpha males" who shut down the institutions because of their lust for poweer as they wanted money for the land they sat on. Nothing feminized about that.

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Reply #6 - Apr 16^th, 2024 at 11:58am

The reduction of live in facilities for people with mental health problems, limits on the number of free sessions an individual can have, lack of experienced counsellors, psychologists and psychiatrists, difficulty in accessing help initially and arguably a focus on female issues at the expense of males are some of a myriad of problems that need fixing.

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Reply #7 - Apr 16^th, 2024 at 4:10pm

To think it was Jack the Ripper's own family who, although not knowing he was going around killing women, could see he was not a well person and by stroke of luck had him 'put away' in a Mental Asylum (locked up) and thus the killings stopped and why the authorities, etc never 'caught him'. He eventually died, locked away.

But such 'facilities' are to the Lefties, a 'Human Rights' issue, not that the Human Rights of the Public are considered and taken into account.

I once lived with a guy who was one of the Bouncers at Emerton Hotel who, along with the other Bouncers saw that the approaching guys (who would kill Anita Cobby the following week) had 'nothing behind their eyes' and were coming for trouble. Sure, the Bouncers gave them a real belting, but not enough to prevent them from their appetite for destruction and death. Even he said "Seeing the look in their eyes was enough to stoke fear in us, even though we were more than physically capable to deal with it - it was the 'violence' of their mental state that took us back a bit." Those Bouncers all regret not having done a real job of it (which probably would have put them in gaol) in hindsight.

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Re: Mental health Bondi mass murder
Reply #8 - Apr 19^th, 2024 at 12:10am

Joel Cauchi's state of mind would have been quite okay had he gone and taken his medication as psychiatrists would have instructed him. But the only drugs he seemed to be taking were the type that triggered his psychosis.

There is only so much that mental health facilities could do for people. But, at least show some commonsense by not being on the wrong type of drugs.

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Re: Mental health Bondi mass murder
Reply #9 - Apr 19^th, 2024 at 12:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2024 at 10:45am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 15^th, 2024 at 10:47pm:

We have people wandering around with mental illness they will never be charged with any crime for some reason bleeding heart leftists think it's ok for them to run amok among us.

You want mental health criminalised?

You know, had Cauchi survived his maniacal rampage, I doubt that a judge would have given him any leniency that would have allowed Cauchi to see the release from prison every again. Poor mental health does not get excused. Cauchi would have had to be completely unaware of his actions for any possibility of an exoneration. All the mental health arguments would be considered. But Cauchi was going to do prison time.

But, since Cauchi did not survive, all that can be done is to review and update strategies to prevent this sort of tragedy from happening ever again.

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