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Reply #90 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:19pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 9:23pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 9:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 9:17pm:

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Is that a self portrait you old girly skirt?

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #91 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:21pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:29am:

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 4:19pm:

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You and many people here keep pushing the racist stereotypes and fighting against closing the gap

What do you actually mean by "closing the gap"?

You've exhausted any good faith one may have misplaced in your intentions. You will need to earn that level of respect back before we start playing your still semantics dance.

You'll need to start by enforcing your own rules around racial abuse first,.but given you condone and platform that bullshit I can't see it happening.

Yet you're still here? go figure.

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #92 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:24pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 9:23pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 9:19pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 9:17pm:

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Berkshire hunt.

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Is that a self portrait you old girly skirt?

Bbwiyawn is the parasol. Maggie is holding him by his ... er.... thin little handle. Hence the disgust on her face.... Tsk, tsk Shocked

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #93 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:25pm

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

But agreed, it's just a hate fest. And like all bigotry, it's just dumb projection.

I focused on the wrong part in my post but the wider point is understood, that's why helping to close the gap in their communities, as well as the socially disadvantaged in general is what stands out as a way to help reduce the number of deaths.

But "closing the gap" is a trigger phrase to them and pointing to these stats is being done to argue against that, not for it.

Poor conservatives. Perpetually triggered by buzz words.

But let's face it, the buzz words were always intended to trigger. It's a fantastic distraction while the resource sector and every entitled white dude on a board gets fat.

Yet it's idiots like you that blurt out the " buzz words" ad infinitum.

Are they meant to trigger just to make you feel superior?

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #94 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:32pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

But agreed, it's just a hate fest. And like all bigotry, it's just dumb projection.

I focused on the wrong part in my post but the wider point is understood, that's why helping to close the gap in their communities, as well as the socially disadvantaged in general is what stands out as a way to help reduce the number of deaths.

But "closing the gap" is a trigger phrase to them and pointing to these stats is being done to argue against that, not for it.

Poor conservatives. Perpetually triggered by buzz words.

But let's face it, the buzz words were always intended to trigger. It's a fantastic distraction while the resource sector and every entitled white dude on a board gets fat.

Yet it's idiots like you that blurt out the " buzz words" ad infinitum.

Are they meant to trigger just to make you feel superior?

That warm feeling they get from imagining they are 'triggering' people is just them pissing in one another's pockets...

Still laughing - popped by the local police station today to discuss another Badouin - nearly fell off my chair when I said the name and the cops said - "I know him." I said - "I'll bet you do!" Grin

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #95 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:33pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:25pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 8:35am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:41am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:11am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:06am:

mothra wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:55am:

More compellingly, and a fact so utterly lost on this lot that i'm not optimistic repeating it but seeing as it's you, Kanga:

One will find, if one is genuinely trying to collate statistics, that the numbers represented in Indigenous communities are pretty on par in all communities which suffer from significant social and economic disadvantage.

I mean, we've only know that for decades.

They're a bit slow on the uptake around here though. They think it's more melanin related.

We are certainly seeing that shift with a whole problem approach in a general sense, from greater assistance for women at risk but also a greater focus on men and their issues from mental health to isolation etc to help address the causes and reduce those numbers.

But that does underline that the intentions of those bringing this up as an Indigenous problem, because of stats, simply shows they don't care about the issue and just want to try and justify their bigoted beliefs.

Especially when they follow up with notions that we should have more white people kill more women to balance the stats as a solution, which even if they're joking, shows they don't really care.

It's just another deception to platform their hate.

Apologies, i didn't explain myself very well.

What i'm saying is that the rates of family violence in Indigenous communities are pretty much the same as the rates of family violence in disadvantaged white communities.

It's much of a muchness.

This is not an Aboriginal problem. It is a problem of social disadvantage.

People arguing that Indigenous rates are higher are being either willfuly or naively disingenuous.

But agreed, it's just a hate fest. And like all bigotry, it's just dumb projection.

I focused on the wrong part in my post but the wider point is understood, that's why helping to close the gap in their communities, as well as the socially disadvantaged in general is what stands out as a way to help reduce the number of deaths.

But "closing the gap" is a trigger phrase to them and pointing to these stats is being done to argue against that, not for it.

Poor conservatives. Perpetually triggered by buzz words.

But let's face it, the buzz words were always intended to trigger. It's a fantastic distraction while the resource sector and every entitled white dude on a board gets fat.

Yet it's idiots like you that blurt out the " buzz words" ad infinitum.

Are they meant to trigger just to make you feel superior?

Indeed. Mongs like Mothra invented the concept of being triggered and trigger warning.

They want to be safe. **** 'em. Laff at 'em.

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #96 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:34pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:53am:

Boris wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:29am:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence.

They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

https://ministers.dss.gov.au/media-releases/13016#:~:text=First%20Nations%20wome...

And then?

What should we be advocating for to help reduce those stats?

Should we be working towards closing the gap?

Should we give them an advisory body to weigh in on what sorts of things we should be doing to help?

How do we help?

The only GAP in this conversation ... is the empty gap between your floppy ears SK.

As for an advisory body.... are you that stupid or is it a natural trait?

Aboriginal Australians have more advisory bodies than you can poke a stick at .... that's why the Voice failed ..... it would have been just another taxpayer funded divisive unaccountable Aboriginal bureaucracy.

And for all the multi $billions of taxpayer money thrown at all the advisory groups why hasn't the GAP already been closed?

Because it's an unaccountable bottomless money pit for corrupt Aboriginals and non Aboriginals glued to the gravy train.

And lefties like you are the biggest non Aboriginal spongers reaping the benefits.

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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #97 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:41pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 12:06pm:

LoL@Mothra.

I wonder why Mothra wants to lie about the rates of DV amonst Abos?
She's obviously the most racists person here and loves it when Abo women are bashed to death by Abo men.

There is also a massive First Nations disparity in terms of victims and offenders.

Forty-nine of the homicide victims in Australia identified as First Nations (35 men and 14 women) – that is, 20% of victims.

https://theconversation.com/new-homicide-statistics-show-surge-in-intimate-partn...

You can start by removing that stolen description used to describe Australian Aboriginals.

Amongst everything else that's a misnomer.

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Reply #98 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:45pm

"Arrr... Houston - we've had a problem!"

"State your problem, Apollo Thirteen..."

"We've.. errr... had a brain explosion in the mothra module - it's spinning uncontrollably..."

"Spin is pretty normal for that module, Apollo - both laterally and longitudinally...."

"We are aware of that, Houston.... ummm ... this is way beyond normal parameters..."

"Roger, Apollo - allow us to conference the issue... wait one... (aside) ....... Glynn - how much does the 'normal' mothra module spin?"

"Well - it head spins normally at rest like a top day and night ... with added fuel from vino it is a bit quicker.... then, of course, it just loves spin when that is introduced into any discussion.... can they control it?"

"Apollo - Houston - are you able to control the spin with counter-thrusts?"

"Negative, Houston... the thrusters are ineffective... and we're using fuel... should we hit the trigger and cut her loose?"

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Reply #99 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:47pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:45pm:

"Arrr... Houston - we've had a problem!"

"State your problem, Apollo Thirteen..."

"We've.. errr... had a brain explosion in the mothra module - it's spinning uncontrollably..."

"Spin is pretty normal for that module, Apollo - both laterally and longitudinally...."

"We are aware of that, Houston.... ummm ... this is way beyond normal parameters..."

"Roger, Apollo - allow us to conference the issue... wait one... (aside) ....... Glynn - how much does the 'normal' mothra module spin?"

"Well - it head spins normally at rest like a top day and night ... with added fuel from vino it is a bit quicker.... then, of course, it just loves spin when that is introduced into any discussion.... can they control it?"

"Apollo - Houston - are you able to control the spin with counter-thrusts?"

"Negative, Houston... the thrusters are ineffective... and we're using fuel... should we hit the trigger and cut her loose?"

Graps - do it in darker font so I don't need another glasses script to read it. Please. Wink

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Reply #100 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:57pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:13pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 10:07am:

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 9:10am:

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To the sane and logical, that is another example of the need to close the gap.

The devil is in the details SK. I think you will find that those people demanding we "do the opposite" merely have a more realistic approach.

Do you think that not killing your wife is one of Brian's impossible standards for Aborigines to meet?

Do you think sending the army into to Alice to shoot all indigenous Australians on sight, or round then all up into concentration camps or refuges and sell tickets to hunt them is a more realistic approach?

Another dumb arse baseless statement.

You have it bad.

People on this forum, in this thread, have advocated for these things and despite their despicable nature, they remain unmoderated so one assumes that they are views shared by FD.

But besides, FD has exhausted what goodwill there was left in trying to converse with him, so I'm just responding in kind at this point.

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Reply #101 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:58pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 2:24pm:

Move to Alice Springs and enjoy the company of your favourite people

Cry some more.

Put up or shut up you sanctimonious clueless twat.

No need to get so emotional, Tissue?

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Reply #102 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:58pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:21pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:29am:

freediver wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 4:19pm:

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You and many people here keep pushing the racist stereotypes and fighting against closing the gap

What do you actually mean by "closing the gap"?

You've exhausted any good faith one may have misplaced in your intentions. You will need to earn that level of respect back before we start playing your still semantics dance.

You'll need to start by enforcing your own rules around racial abuse first,.but given you condone and platform that bullshit I can't see it happening.

Yet you're still here? go figure.

There needs to be more people with the voice of reason to cut through the hate that has found a home here.

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Reply #103 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:00pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:34pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:53am:

Boris wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 10:29am:

First Nations women and children are disproportionately impacted by family and domestic violence.

They are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised due to violence than non-Indigenous women and six times more likely to die as a result of family violence.7 Nov 2023

https://ministers.dss.gov.au/media-releases/13016#:~:text=First%20Nations%20wome...

And then?

What should we be advocating for to help reduce those stats?

Should we be working towards closing the gap?

Should we give them an advisory body to weigh in on what sorts of things we should be doing to help?

How do we help?

The only GAP in this conversation ... is the empty gap between your floppy ears SK.

As for an advisory body.... are you that stupid or is it a natural trait?

Aboriginal Australians have more advisory bodies than you can poke a stick at .... that's why the Voice failed ..... it would have been just another taxpayer funded divisive unaccountable Aboriginal bureaucracy.

And for all the multi $billions of taxpayer money thrown at all the advisory groups why hasn't the GAP already been closed?

Because it's an unaccountable bottomless money pit for corrupt Aboriginals and non Aboriginals glued to the gravy train.

And lefties like you are the biggest non Aboriginal spongers reaping the benefits.

They're simple questions...

You and your ilk keep frothing over these stats.

And then?

What's the point if you don't want to help change them?

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Reply #104 - Jun 4^th, 2024 at 7:23pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 4^th, 2024 at 6:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 2:28pm:

Boris wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2024 at 2:24pm:

Move to Alice Springs and enjoy the company of your favourite people