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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #135 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 10:37am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 9:01am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 8:40am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 7:35pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 2:16pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 1:44pm:
No - I said 10% might be worth saving - Sad Sack supplied the context from within his/her own mind.  That's where Saddie the Whining Laddie makes his/her mistakes every time.... reading in.


And the other 90%?

Boris was talking about shooting 100% of them, you say that "maybe" 10% are worth saving.

So what, you're taking the other 90% out to dinner?


Never have I ever said anything about shooting or killing anyone

You f...ing liar


He reads in a lot - part of his mental disease.... I just suggested that out of all their self-imposed strife maybe 10% out there were worth saving.... the rest will do it all to themselves....


Who is gaslighting now...

If someone says, "Hey I'm going to throw this pizza out", and you said "oh, maybe save one slice", what is happening to the rest?


If a pizza is no good.... you eat it ......


Expecting some honesty from you was a stretch.
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #136 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 10:38am
 
Boris wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 9:53am:
“For the past 23 years, on average more than three Aboriginal women have been killed each year in the Northern Territory by domestic partners,” the NT’s coroner, Elisabeth Armitage, told the court.

Her investigations reveal 81 women have died as a result of domestic violence in the Northern Territory since 2000; 93% of them were Aboriginal.

Armitage has combined the deaths of Kumanjayi Haywood, Ngeygo Ragurrk, Miss Yunupingu and Kumarn Rubuntja to examine systemic failings across the domestic, sexual and family violence sector.

In each case, the court heard how the women told authorities or a loved one they would be “killed” by their partner in the lead-up to their deaths.

“This is not somebody else’s horror. This is our horror,” Armitage said.

She said the escalating rate of domestic violence was a “terrible, terrible carnage” and at least one woman’s death was an “indictment on [the territory’s] agencies and services”.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/30/this-is-our-horror-nt-cor...


Boris: "Never have I ever said anything about shooting or killing anyone. You f...ing liar"

Sad: "Quote Boris saying exactly that"

Boris: "Reposts stats to run from criticism"
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #137 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 11:13am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 10:37am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 9:01am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 8:40am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 7:35pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 2:16pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 1:44pm:
No - I said 10% might be worth saving - Sad Sack supplied the context from within his/her own mind.  That's where Saddie the Whining Laddie makes his/her mistakes every time.... reading in.


And the other 90%?

Boris was talking about shooting 100% of them, you say that "maybe" 10% are worth saving.

So what, you're taking the other 90% out to dinner?


Never have I ever said anything about shooting or killing anyone

You f...ing liar


He reads in a lot - part of his mental disease.... I just suggested that out of all their self-imposed strife maybe 10% out there were worth saving.... the rest will do it all to themselves....


Who is gaslighting now...

If someone says, "Hey I'm going to throw this pizza out", and you said "oh, maybe save one slice", what is happening to the rest?


If a pizza is no good.... you eat it ......


Expecting some honesty from you was a stretch.


You drink it ... talk is cheap - you do nothing for the real problems but attack people who give a damn - and even offer solutions... you take your dozen slices of poisoned pizza and eat them .... when you can tell me which one is not poisoned you might have a chance...

Now then - how's that idea of an Aborassic Park coming along?  All that culture preserved and available for viewing and splendid isolation as well... far from the madding White crowds pushing them out.... be a real crowd pleaser that would... good money to be made there and nothing to interfere with their 'doing things their way'.... and accepting the outcomes  without blaming anyone else.

Win-win  for all there...
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #138 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 1:29pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 8:39am:
Boris wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 2:16pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 1:44pm:
No - I said 10% might be worth saving - Sad Sack supplied the context from within his/her own mind.  That's where Saddie the Whining Laddie makes his/her mistakes every time.... reading in.


And the other 90%?

Boris was talking about shooting 100% of them, you say that "maybe" 10% are worth saving.

So what, you're taking the other 90% out to dinner?


Never have I ever said anything about shooting or killing anyone

You f...ing liar


Boris wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 8:18am:
You people do not care about what is happening in the Alice.

And you call yourself Aussies.

Shame on you

The only answer is the army with guns and night patrols and shoot on sight


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To restore order with armed patrols with orders to shoot offender on sight - the offenders will think twice and not offend.


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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #139 - Jun 8th, 2024 at 2:36pm
 
Like Hamas and the Gaza Strip (rock band) they'd soon learn that a full response to extreme actions by them will have extreme consequences.
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #140 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:16am
 
Boris wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 8:39am:
Boris wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 2:16pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 1:44pm:
No - I said 10% might be worth saving - Sad Sack supplied the context from within his/her own mind.  That's where Saddie the Whining Laddie makes his/her mistakes every time.... reading in.


And the other 90%?

Boris was talking about shooting 100% of them, you say that "maybe" 10% are worth saving.

So what, you're taking the other 90% out to dinner?


Never have I ever said anything about shooting or killing anyone

You f...ing liar


Boris wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 8:18am:
You people do not care about what is happening in the Alice.

And you call yourself Aussies.

Shame on you

The only answer is the army with guns and night patrols and shoot on sight


https://media.tenor.com/EbyOKpncujQAAAAi/john-travolta-tra-jt-transparent.gif


To restore order with armed patrols with orders to shoot offender on sight - the offenders will think twice and not offend.


Perhaps SK agrees with Brian that this would be cultural imperialism. You could not expect aborigines to avoid being shot.

Close the gap.
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #141 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 11:29am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:16am:
Boris wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 1:29pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 8:39am:
Boris wrote on Jun 7th, 2024 at 5:55pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 2:16pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2024 at 1:44pm:
No - I said 10% might be worth saving - Sad Sack supplied the context from within his/her own mind.  That's where Saddie the Whining Laddie makes his/her mistakes every time.... reading in.


And the other 90%?

Boris was talking about shooting 100% of them, you say that "maybe" 10% are worth saving.

So what, you're taking the other 90% out to dinner?


Never have I ever said anything about shooting or killing anyone

You f...ing liar


Boris wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 8:18am:
You people do not care about what is happening in the Alice.

And you call yourself Aussies.

Shame on you

The only answer is the army with guns and night patrols and shoot on sight


https://media.tenor.com/EbyOKpncujQAAAAi/john-travolta-tra-jt-transparent.gif


To restore order with armed patrols with orders to shoot offender on sight - the offenders will think twice and not offend.


Perhaps SK agrees with Brian that this would be cultural imperialism. You could not expect aborigines to avoid being shot.

Close the gap.


Things are out of all control in the NT
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #142 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 11:34am
 
Probably the biggest area of behaviour that Aborigines find impossible to hold to is NOT just claiming everything in sight and then assuming it 'belongs' to them once some agreement is reached on access and use, when the reality is that they are simply having their access to and use of open range formally permitted.  For example:-

"The most comprehensive native title agreement negotiated in Australian history. The Settlement between the Noongar people and the Western Australian (WA) Government covers approximately 200,000 square kilometres of the south-west region."
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What this means is:-

"A range of Noongar-held land assets, including further arrangements for Noongar peoples’ access to and co-management of Crown land with the WA Government."

i.e:-
"The Noongar Land Estate will provide the Noongar people with a significant asset" = SOME Freehold land, same rights and obligations as everyone else - most not Freehold and thus not 'owned' outright.  A flashpoint there for future problems.

"A 10-year fund to support the land, joint management and heritage objectives " = MONEY - you can see the future problem areas there now.

"co-operative and joint management agreements for the care and protection of the(South West Conservation) Estate."  = again you can see the potential for future problems arising over 'joint management' and similar.

"Noongar peoples' lawful access to certain unallocated Crown Land and unmanaged reserve land for customary activities." = note carefully the wording - this is NOT Freehold land totally owned and never can be, access is the same as everyone else, and many areas such as 'unmanaged' need to be cleared up.

" access to Public Drinking Water Source Areas for certain customary purposes." = access to - not control over.; again a future flashpoint for problems over 'interpretation'.

Simple enough - until the stupid politicians, the activists and the 'courts' get involved in every aspect of every dispute area over every little thing... and that is when the excrement strikes the propellor.  Also note that all other stakeholders are excluded from any discussion of usage and 'ownership' of what is non-Freehold land granted ACCESS to and 'traditional usage' of - meaning ceremonies - not just - 'me walk here - this my land'.  Note this 'government' has NOT made that last clear at all but wide open for warfare and endless dispute.

Why did I choose Western Australia and this agreement?  Because it covers the capital city etc of Perth and there are countless turkey-heads over there who seem to imagine their rights are never going to be impinged on in any way and it is so sweet to give the Aborigines everything they want.  Wait until the disputes start rolling in, the complaints about 'heritage violations' (like Hindmarsh Island - never heard of until someone decides it is - Culture Cult like Cargo Cult); the dopes standing on the road and telling authorities they have no rights to entry etc; the claims of 'sovereignty' over and total ownership of the entire thing; the claims to Ownership of Perth and all in it - you can work the rest out for yourself.

Now then - How does this fit with the demand for CONTROL over land, water, air and resources?  Simple - right to use is what Native Title offers - so now an Aboriginal can access drinking water and use creek water on licence for land use etc!!!  Can walk across land NOT owned by someone else and actually legally access national parks and similar!!  Is actually entitled to breathe air!!  Can dispose of THEIR personal resources!!

Control and free shared use are two totally different things - watch this space for court actions funded by you idiots to take your rights from you.  The German socialist parties thought they could control Hitler by giving him power and control by using the democratic process and fair play ...... took six months for them to realise their mistake.

So - what has changed with this massive 'agreement'?  A bit of Freehold (as I've advocated for ages unlike - say ShakaRoo or PillPerth who offer nothing but bile towards Whites),  and some cash (how unusual) - and the potential for a whole heap of future trouble over ownership, rights and land management of PUBLIC lands ending in court battles under 'activist judges' with an agenda under the rule of the government of the day, and with one side funded fully for free and all other stakeholders excluded by virtue of lack of funds etc and ignored even if they get a hearing.

It's your Perth, turkey-heads - YOU drink it!  I'll be sitting back laughing.... and poking a stick and rattling your cages at every move...... just like now with the Lawfare columns.... need a new one for SEWA Lawfare soon.

https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier-and-cabinet/south-w...

https://www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-planning-lands-and-heritage/noo...

Like Gnads - I am ashamed that I spent my life primarily voting for a party that I thought was for everyone equally, and was even an unpaid Union delegate who took the hits from management in return for protecting the rights of me mates (so I could be rejected  for a job with the Union 'encouraging applications from women, ATSIs and Non-English speakers').
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Reply #143 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:46pm
 
Would indigenous people be held liable if someone is injured on their claimed land? I think not.
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Reply #144 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:16am:
Perhaps SK agrees with Brian that this would be cultural imperialism. You could not expect aborigines to avoid being shot.

Close the gap.


The problem is, if you wanted to see a closing of the gap, the trouble makers are going to have to be shot.
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Reply #145 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:49pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8th, 2024 at 9:01am:
If a pizza is no good.... you eat it ......


Speaking as someone who has worked in a pizza store, you find that the complainants will eat most of the pizza and then demand a replacement and refund for the few left over pieces of the pizza. Then they will bad mout the store for what they did get in the first place.
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Reply #146 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:54pm
 
I got a ham and pineapple pizza at Dominoes on Wednesday that had no pineapple on it.
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freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
I got a ham and pineapple pizza at Dominoes on Wednesday that had no pineapple on it.


In America, they would be happy with that.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 7:03pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
I got a ham and pineapple pizza at Dominoes on Wednesday that had no pineapple on it.


In America, they would be happy with that.


Gotta love your local Rocky claimants - 'scattered across Queensland' but claiming the coast and hinterland...
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #149 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:17pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:16pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 7:03pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
I got a ham and pineapple pizza at Dominoes on Wednesday that had no pineapple on it.


In America, they would be happy with that.


Gotta love your local Rocky claimants - 'scattered across Queensland' but claiming the coast and hinterland...


Not sure what you mean by that.
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