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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #150 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:53pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:17pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:16pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 7:03pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
I got a ham and pineapple pizza at Dominoes on Wednesday that had no pineapple on it.


In America, they would be happy with that.


Gotta love your local Rocky claimants - 'scattered across Queensland' but claiming the coast and hinterland...


Not sure what you mean by that.


Get out your maps and check it out.  Their own blurbs say they are all over Queensland but they want your backyard there - close to the ocean and the money.

It's like the Perth thing below - given the dorks who come here with their vile attacks and insults - how could I resist showing them how they've been 'claimed' behind their backs and the troubles are just about to begin over any and every little thing.  I'm guessing those who come here filled with fire and brimstone over the suffering Aboriginal and rights figure it doesn't include themselves.... wait for it... wait for it....

As I said there - I'll be taking a stick and rattling their cages every time some new 'problem' comes up anywhere all across the SEWA (Southern Extremity of Western Australia)... I'm rubbing my hands together already and chortling....

Now then - all those other claims doing the rounds.... hands up those who actually believe they all mean just a benign presence on the landscape for your Aboriginal brethren, and they won't 'confuse' rights to usage and sharing for Ownership?

I'll say it again - 'native title rights' are a farce - they give no extra rights other than the 'right' to hold ceremonies at traditional times ONLY - well - the Church Of Longer Day Stimulants can also go out to a National Park and hold a Day of Non-Remembrance using Holy Dope or something... seeing the sunrise from Mt Warhing at the Solstice(s)is a spiritual achievement for everyone equally ... as long as they don't break any laws or interfere with anyone else using the park.   Aboriginals can also access drinking water!!!  Wow!!   With a licence they can use water from a water course for irrigation!!  They can own Freehold land the same as anyone else under the same conditions - the difference being that 'government' gives it to them and pays the bills for them!!  This is progress!!  This is equality!  they can even breathe the same air and have the same right to complain of polluted air etc as anyone else!!

The only things wrong with that picture are the way governments have left open little doorways for 'wriggle room' by using terms like 'ownership', 'title', 'their land' (but not exclusively) and by not fully explaining the full meaning of all these words - so that activists, self-same 'governments' and their agencies, and activist 'courts' can 'make determinations' to exclude others after 'consultation' and/or 'hearing from stakeholders' which means exclusion of the majority of stakeholders in public lands even from consultation - the people - but that's not racist.

When will the people of NSW get their vote on any mooted 'treaty' as appeared today during the anniversary of the long-ago Myall Creek Massacre, following which the courts hung seven White Men?  Looked at the Appin Massacre of fourteen people again - the blurb now is that this followed from the government ordering troops to move on some 'troublesome natives' - they forgot to mention these 'troublesome natives' killed sixteen people including at least one woman and two children, all defenceless.  Early Day Hamas, you understand.....

Bit like The Ghost and The Darkness, innit -

"We can't have the entire project held up over a little trouble with the local wildlife!  How many people have you lost?"

"Oh - over a hundred or so... about a hundred and thirty  ..."



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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #151 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:58pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:17pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:16pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 7:03pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
I got a ham and pineapple pizza at Dominoes on Wednesday that had no pineapple on it.


In America, they would be happy with that.


Gotta love your local Rocky claimants - 'scattered across Queensland' but claiming the coast and hinterland...


Not sure what you mean by that.


There was no pineapple on the edge or through the middle.
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Reply #152 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:04pm
 
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I can see that Perth has as much of a problem as CQ. The moment that Dutton takes over as PM, he should do away with special privileges for indigenous Australians. Then the "tick the box" indigenous people can renounce their association to being indigenous. The 2026 Australian Census will see indigenous numbers plummet to about 400,000. The United Nations might do an inquiry about the apparent population reduction of the indigenous Australians. However, when they get told that the tick the box indigenous people no longer get paid for claiming to be indigenous, they will understand and go back to hating white people as usual.

I dunno. What are you going to do with your share of $40 Billion?
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #153 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:05pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:58pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:17pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 8:16pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 7:03pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 6:54pm:
I got a ham and pineapple pizza at Dominoes on Wednesday that had no pineapple on it.


In America, they would be happy with that.


Gotta love your local Rocky claimants - 'scattered across Queensland' but claiming the coast and hinterland...


Not sure what you mean by that.


There was no pineapple on the edge or through the middle.


In other words, it is an analogy for indigenous people who did not go make claims for places of no value?
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #154 - Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:54pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 9th, 2024 at 9:04pm:
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I can see that Perth has as much of a problem as CQ. The moment that Dutton takes over as PM, he should do away with special privileges for indigenous Australians. Then the "tick the box" indigenous people can renounce their association to being indigenous. The 2026 Australian Census will see indigenous numbers plummet to about 400,000. The United Nations might do an inquiry about the apparent population reduction of the indigenous Australians. However, when they get told that the tick the box indigenous people no longer get paid for claiming to be indigenous, they will understand and go back to hating white people as usual.

I dunno. What are you going to do with your share of $40 Billion?


As you can see Perth is already gone under the hammer.... I'm just waiting for the fur and feathers to start flying for our luvvy mates over there and their vapid ideas.....

$40Bn?  I'm not one to hold the hand out for money.... not my thing....  it's not that I don't need it - it's just that I don't need it unless I need it.

Proper medical support for proper treatment hospitals and such.  All that 'privatisation' by both sides was supposed to 'fix' all the problems with hospitals, ambulance and police etc - but somehow the costs just keep getting higher and higher and the billions just disappear like nothing.... well funny thing - largely due to privatisation and rises in costs!!

Then of course Don Juan Huarte and Don Pedro Castella stole $230Bn windfall from the sale of Telstra and put it in an offshore account for their benefit and the benefit of their chosen ones in perpetuity ..... now Castella has finally seen the light about Nine and quit after bashing an innocent newsie ...  FFS... who in his/her right mind would put such a person in charge of anything?  How much never-ending big cash flow do these clowns need?  Huarte, of course, that little rat weasel, is more feeble and scratchy than ever.....

Even so - $40bn in the right hands would be a help.  Anyway - I note that this 'settlement' over Perth Greater (the State of Perth) includes one of the things I've discussed here - to much vitriol - give them a portion of their claim as freehold so they can build a home etc - the rest remains Open Range and will remain so, and they can use it alongside everyone else - the only real thorn (apart from wrongful use of words like 'title' and 'ownership' and 'their' in reference to land etc) in the thicket there is 'mutual management' - and we all know what THAT means in the hands of government agencies onside with the claimants and equally on-side 'courts' and other idiots - what we all should call 'Mt Warning Decisions'.....

First the 'government agency' runs it down - then says it's dangerous etc - then they, in concert and consultation with the 'native title holders' while excluding all other stakeholders (the entirety of the people when it comes to NATIONAL Parks and public lands) shut it down to suit themselves ONLY!  That's what a 'Mt Warning Decision' is.... an Ayers Rock Decision... all the other lies.

Rubbing hands together in glee waiting for what our 'friends' in WA are going to cop now.... you'd have to be blind to not have seen what's happened already ... oh that decades old crossing of that creek upsets the spirits ....  oh, you can't remove that old post - it's too deep in the ground and will alter the dreamingscape or something .... you can't put a pipeline under the ocean, think of our woman who hears whale songs (and somehow remains outside a mental institution) - now it's worse .......  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #155 - Jun 11th, 2024 at 5:19pm
 
You can take the monkeys out of the bush.

But you can't educate the bush outof the monkeys.
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Reply #156 - Jun 14th, 2024 at 10:32pm
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #157 - Jun 14th, 2024 at 11:06pm
 
Brian does not care. Civilisation is impossible for Aborigines to maintain proper behavioural standards.
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Reply #158 - Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:16am
 
I wonder if he has ever shared his views about aborigines with an aborigine.
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Reply #159 - Jun 15th, 2024 at 11:46am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:16am:
I wonder if he has ever shared his views about aborigines with an aborigine.


I note that not one of our Heroes Of The Aboriginal Oppression has EVER gone out and preached to the Aborigines how to resolve their problems.... or has stood for election, or has done anything but sledge others for offering validly supported views, or even for offering views for discussion.

Children, you see... old Sacka has been around for years with his 'champ' etc... we all know that ...and doesn't ever once actually read anything, attempt to draw any conclusions, or simply discuss what is raised as an issue - just sledges away at the individual poster just like smith and mothy and such... at least Peccary has the excuse of being a SNAG or somethingand I rather tend to just chuck his cheeks and move on ... and we know a few others... I named them already today...

At least Lefty was honest in being TWGA - The World's Greatest Asshole.... but he was a sock anyway.... just a hand puppet for our Prime Loser.  I left Brian out because I know he's not been well and that he is isolated somewhere and is out of touch, and I accept that he has some military background so give him a little leeway ... I'm a forgiving type by nature....
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Reply #160 - Jun 15th, 2024 at 12:25pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2024 at 9:16am:
I wonder if he has ever shared his views about aborigines with an aborigine.


Aborigines are smart enough to know when they are being patronised. Unless Brian has a different attitude talking to indigenous people about indigenous issues compared to what he shares here, he would probably get a severe rebuke from his audience, too.
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Reply #161 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 4:09pm
 
https://www.noticer.news/adelaide-hindley-st-attack-aboriginal-criminal/

    June 16, 2024

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An indigenous man with a long history of violence followed a woman down a street in the centre of Adelaide while high on the drug fantasy before subjecting her to a horrific attack which left her with significant injuries.

Trey Victor O’Riley, 24, was allowed to plead guilty to one count attempted robbery over the May 2022 Hindley St rampage, and was on Tuesday sentenced to three years, four months and 24 days in the District Court of South Australia, with a non-parole period of one year and 11 months.

Judge Michael Durrant backdated the sentence to August 23, 2023, when O’Riley finished another four-month and 30-day sentence for an assault on a woman who was sitting her car outside a hospital.

In sentencing Judge Durrant noted that O’Riley had said at his Aboriginal Sentencing Conference (a “culturally-appropriate” sentencing option given only to indigenous criminals), that he had taken the “wrong sort of drug” that caused his brain “not to work” and claimed to have no memory of the attack.

He also mentioned previous suspended sentences and good behaviour bonds given to O’Riley, as well as his previous criminal history starting from age 12, including assaults, thefts and bail breaches, his abuse of drugs and alcohol, and his violent upbringing and family background.

Judge Durrant found that the victim in the Hindley St attack feared for her life, was terrified during the 35 minutes she was detained by O’Riley, and suffered significant physical injuries. He also described the attempted robbery as “a serious example of offending of this type”.

“You aggressively approached your victim who was walking on Hindley Street and told her to get off your street.  She walked away, but you followed and told her she better run otherwise you would bash her.  You caught up and grabbed her from behind.  You said you were a police officer and told her to hand over her bag,” he told O’Riley.

“You then put her in a head lock and punched her on her face, hands, elbows, knees, legs and neck.  You bit her left eyebrow, shoulders and legs, and said ‘I’m going to kill you.  I’m going to poke your eye out so you can’t see and kill you’.

“You strangled your victim until she nearly lost consciousness.  You then bit her on the right nipple and sucked her right breast.  That all lasted about 35 minutes and ended only when you vomited on her head and clothes, and when a security guard approached.

“Your victim suffered nasal fractures and had swelling around her face and eye,
and bruising to her forehead, skull, elbows and knees.”


However, Judge Durrant also told O’Riley that “because you still have the potential to rehabilitate, both you and community will benefit from you being on a longer than usual period of parole under supervision”, and therefore set the non-parole period of just one year and 11 months, meaning he could be freed as early as July next year.
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Reply #162 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 6:50pm
 
It sounds like the judge is giving him a lighter sentence because he is a repeat offender.
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Reply #163 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:17pm
 
Justice Michael Durrant. I wonder if he gets captured by a bunch of indigenous people intent on torturing him, will helicopters be flying around the region going "Mike Durrant... we're gonna leave you behind"? The weak actions of letting a perpetrator walk after just over a year -- which is likely what the perpetrator will get -- is going to irritate the public so much that any problems the magistrate faces in future at the hands of the indigenous supremacists will be met with derision from the general public.
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Reply #164 - Jun 17th, 2024 at 7:21pm
 
Abestine Homeland up North - and Gondwanamo Bay for the Ultra-Recalcitrants ... let the Elders deal with him and hand him over for orange overalls if they can't ...

Can't see a thing wrong with that concept myself.... win/win for everyone...  the Blactivists get their Homeland and Separate State; it's all voluntary but those who choose not to go there stay here under Australian rules and behave; we get rid of the troublemakers and we get a Two State Solution (Ausrael/Abestine); the criminal elements are sent there first to let the Elders sort them out the old tribal ways, thus satisfying the call for 'traditional judgement and punishment';  only the really bad and intractable ones get sent on to Gondwanamo to share with the Lebs and Terrs and other miscreants .... meantime - we fund Abestine by paying them to be guards etc at Gondwanamo....the crocs and snakes and sharks can take care of any runaways....
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