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Reply #30 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 11:54am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 9:10am:
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To the sane and logical, that is another example of the need to close the gap.


The devil is in the details SK. I think you will find that those people demanding we "do the opposite" merely have a more realistic approach.

Do you think that not killing your wife is one of Brian's impossible standards for Aborigines to meet?


Do you think sending the army into to Alice to shoot all indigenous Australians on sight, or round then all up into concentration camps or refuges and sell tickets to hunt them is a more realistic approach?



2 in 3 (67%) First Nations people aged 15 and over who had experienced physical harm in the last 12 months reported the perpetrator was an intimate partner or family member.

Almost 3 in 4 (74%) assault hospitalisations involving First Nations people were due to family violence
https://www.aihw.gov.au/family-domestic-and-sexual-violence/population-groups/ab...

And it's your fault.
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #31 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 12:56pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 9:10am:
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To the sane and logical, that is another example of the need to close the gap.


The devil is in the details SK. I think you will find that those people demanding we "do the opposite" merely have a more realistic approach.

Do you think that not killing your wife is one of Brian's impossible standards for Aborigines to meet?


Do you think sending the army into to Alice to shoot all indigenous Australians on sight, or round then all up into concentration camps or refuges and sell tickets to hunt them is a more realistic approach?


See - that's where you are always wrong.... the concept is that you send the army in , give the rioters notice via reading the Riot
Act, and when they fail to disperse, use force to remove them.  A long-standing approach to law enforcement...

As for loading them on the trains - try to get a grip, son - that's just agreeing with THEIR demand for their own state where they can 'do things their way' without our help or input - only those who want that go there, but the rest must assimilate and accept the same conditions as Australians or they are not Australians (even though they all signed on their dole applications that they ARE Australian citizens - can't have it both ways)  Those who remain must go to school, get jobs, and buy their homes like everyone else - I'll get back to this nonsensical 'native title' fraud later.

As for hunting parties - clearly your tiny mind cannot encompass the humour in Maverick's ploy to get some money ... one day you might be old enough to take a joke.... until then you remain a mooron.

Hey, kid - you haven't commented on the idea of Gondwanamo Bay and employing them as guards up there, armed with clubs and spears and ready to help the crocs and sharks in eating any who try to escape..... wassa madda you?  Bit slow, are we?

Why don't you just stay away from the adults until you know WTF you are talking about.  Roll Eyes
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #32 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:11pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 11:54am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 9:10am:
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To the sane and logical, that is another example of the need to close the gap.


The devil is in the details SK. I think you will find that those people demanding we "do the opposite" merely have a more realistic approach.

Do you think that not killing your wife is one of Brian's impossible standards for Aborigines to meet?


Do you think sending the army into to Alice to shoot all indigenous Australians on sight, or round then all up into concentration camps or refuges and sell tickets to hunt them is a more realistic approach?



2 in 3 (67%) First Nations people aged 15 and over who had experienced physical harm in the last 12 months reported the perpetrator was an intimate partner or family member.

Almost 3 in 4 (74%) assault hospitalisations involving First Nations people were due to family violence
https://www.aihw.gov.au/family-domestic-and-sexual-violence/population-groups/ab...

And it's your fault.


You and many people here keep pushing the racist stereotypes and fighting against closing the gap which directly leads to more incidents like those you can't wait to ejaculate all over your posts over and over again.

You want this to happen, you need them to feed your own delusions of superiority.

Blame me all you like, but you're actively fighting against real-world solutions which is bad enough, but many like you on here go a step further and call for their genocide.

You can't play the victim in this case.  I know it comes to easily to you, but you simply can't.

Your weakness is fueling your discrimination which is the basis for your beliefs and actions.  And right now those actions reveal that you froth over these stats and don't want solutions, you want the situation to get worse to help paint your sorry ass in a better light.

It's pathetic.
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #33 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:20pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 12:56pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 9:10am:
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To the sane and logical, that is another example of the need to close the gap.


The devil is in the details SK. I think you will find that those people demanding we "do the opposite" merely have a more realistic approach.

Do you think that not killing your wife is one of Brian's impossible standards for Aborigines to meet?


Do you think sending the army into to Alice to shoot all indigenous Australians on sight, or round then all up into concentration camps or refuges and sell tickets to hunt them is a more realistic approach?


See - that's where you are always wrong.... the concept is that you send the army in , give the rioters notice via reading the Riot
Act, and when they fail to disperse, use force to remove them.  A long-standing approach to law enforcement...


Empty words because you know full well that this was not the claim made.

The claim was the army should be sent in and to shoot them on sight.

Boris wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 8:18am:
You people do not care about what is happening in the Alice.

And you call yourself Aussies.

Shame on you

The only answer is the army with guns and night patrols and shoot on sight


And you supported it, saying that maybe 10% were worth saving from the genocide being advocated for, implying you agree that 90% of them should be killed,

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 4:21pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 11:34am:
Boris wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 11:31am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 11:25am:
Boris wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 11:24am:
The Alice is out of all control

Do you care about there people in terror there?


Even in that group you took it from, did you bother looking at the comments?

Very few people support bringing in the Army and nobody is calling for them to start shooting like you are.

You've taken a headline and gone full-blown "this means we can finally kill them all!"...


Go live there


Can you at least pretend you don't want to kill them all?


Nah - 10% might be worth saving.........


You can attempt to rewrite history all you like, and I realise that you've said a lot of racist things that it may be hard to keep track, but it's there in black and white.

So when you're not wanting to to kill 90% of them, or round them all up like animals and then sell tickets for people to hunt them, you might want to think before you post...
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #34 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:24pm
 
Move to Alice Springs and enjoy the company of your favourite people
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Reply #35 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:28pm
 
Boris wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:24pm:
Move to Alice Springs and enjoy the company of your favourite people


Cry some more.
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #36 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:41pm
 
Go there and enjoy those wonderful people.

Enjoy

https://x.com/actionforalice
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Re: behavioural standards impossible for Aborigines
Reply #37 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:48pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:20pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 12:56pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 10:07am:
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 9:10am:
Quote:
To the sane and logical, that is another example of the need to close the gap.


The devil is in the details SK. I think you will find that those people demanding we "do the opposite" merely have a more realistic approach.

Do you think that not killing your wife is one of Brian's impossible standards for Aborigines to meet?


Do you think sending the army into to Alice to shoot all indigenous Australians on sight, or round then all up into concentration camps or refuges and sell tickets to hunt them is a more realistic approach?


See - that's where you are always wrong.... the concept is that you send the army in , give the rioters notice via reading the Riot
Act, and when they fail to disperse, use force to remove them.  A long-standing approach to law enforcement...


Empty words because you know full well that this was not the claim made.

The claim was the army should be sent in and to shoot them on sight.

Boris wrote on Aug 6th, 2022 at 8:18am:
You people do not care about what is happening in the Alice.

And you call yourself Aussies.

Shame on you

The only answer is the army with guns and night patrols and shoot on sight


And you supported it, saying that maybe 10% were worth saving from the genocide being advocated for, implying you agree that 90% of them should be killed,

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 4:21pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 11:34am:
Boris wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 11:31am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 11:25am:
Boris wrote on Aug 10th, 2022 at 11:24am:
The Alice is out of all control

Do you care about there people in terror there?


Even in that group you took it from, did you bother looking at the comments?

Very few people support bringing in the Army and nobody is calling for them to start shooting like you are.

You've taken a headline and gone full-blown "this means we can finally kill them all!"...


Go live there


Can you at least pretend you don't want to kill them all?


Nah - 10% might be worth saving.........


You can attempt to rewrite history all you like, and I realise that you've said a lot of racist things that it may be hard to keep track, but it's there in black and white.

So when you're not wanting to to kill 90% of them, or round them all up like animals and then sell tickets for people to hunt them, you might want to think before you post...



Shoot on sight - hmmm... you idea has merit... you really are a silly, obsessive child, aren't you?

Move to Alice Springs and enjoy the company of your favourite people
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Reply #38 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:55pm
 
Yeah I figured you'd back down you coward.
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Reply #39 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 3:03pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 2:55pm:
Yeah I figured you'd back down you coward.


Well - we all knew you were never in it - I said to send in the army to bring order as is normal when local authorities cannot control a situation - you made it into your fantasy.

Hmmmm - shoot on sight.... your idea has merit... even you can hit one once in a while.

You're fixated in your narrow mind, you see - no room in there for any send-up or subtlety, and certainly no room there for any idea that the Keffir need to get their own act together and stop all the whining and stealing and other law-breaking themselves.... stop training their kids in how to continue the brushfire war against Whartey while holding the hand out for more and more and more..

10% might be worth saving doesn't mean knocking 90% on the head - just turning them loose in their own paddock as they demand and leave 'em to it. 

Native title now - what a farce.... you have the right to free use of public land and to free expression of your religious beliefs (even if it is spirits-based and you 'hear voices') - in reality no more rights than any citizen is supposed to equally enjoy in national parks and over national icons such as Mt Warning and the Horizontal Falls etc....  NOBODY owns those!  They are held in trust by government and its agencies and neither of those bodies has any right, or ever will have any right, to just give them away.

Now - native title is NOT freehold - they do not own the land outright - which is a loss to everyone, and the cause of endless trouble over the 'confusion' that this leads to - and that can even mean outright violence.  So - how do stupid governments fix this?

When there is some legitimate land claim with proven unbroken residence, under modern rules and laws it is simply not possible for anyone to come along and say 'this was once our ancestors walking patch, so it must be ours' - so what MUST be made clear in the legislation surrounding 'native title' is that this is for NATIVE uses only - and does not imply exclusive ownership.

This needs to be made clear to all applicants, courts, government bodies and ordinary people.

There is a trap (or two) in 'native title' - the first trap is that they cannot build etc on native title land... the second is that native title is a gifting by government, meaning that at some undefined future time - that gifting may be resumed - say for development in the Shoalwater Bay hinterland etc. There have been complaints from thinking Elders already, over the years, that they cannot even build a house on 'native title' land.

So what is needed is the gifting of a PORTION of claimed lands as Freehold, and perfect clarity over the right to free use of the rest - but NOT the right to exclude others from the same rights of free use over the rest.

The only reason I can see that politicians do not simply do this - is that they wish to hold the door open to any and every thing they can use to divide and split people and perpetuate differences eternally - instead of bringing everyone together on the same page.  At the same time they leave the doors wide open for 'activist judges' to effectively create law by their 'interpretation' of what should be simple issues, thus creating a fertile field for further endless trouble and strife.

The only reason for any of that is simply to keep the voting public off balance and constantly in a state of upheaval over what is essentially nothing.  This is either rampant stupidity or genuine policy - I see it as genuine policy to try to cement their own position as supreme lawmakers.... and you can see the same thing in other areas of 'issues' doing the rounds at this time.
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Reply #40 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 4:19pm
 
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What do you actually mean by "closing the gap"?
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Reply #41 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 5:17pm
 
Gap closing has been tried for years - no result other than a backward or downward surge.
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Reply #42 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 6:10pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 5:17pm:
Gap closing has been tried for years - no result other than a backward or downward surge.


The devil is in the detail. People have been closing the gap in various ways for centuries, but the new term has been invented and used to shield various questionable policies from scrutiny.
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Reply #43 - Jun 3rd, 2024 at 6:19pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2024 at 4:19pm:
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You and many people here keep pushing the racist stereotypes and fighting against closing the gap


What do you actually mean by "closing the gap"?


A very telling question. What, indeed, are multitudes of sins behind this inane slogan?


Why is there a gap?
What is the nature of this gap?
Who is the gap between?
Who will close the gap?
When will we know that the gap has been closed?
How did the gap appear?
How will it disappear?



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i thought that was stan grant for a second
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